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    Suppressed Abu Ghraib Photos Leaked



    60 "secret" Abu Ghraib photos have been leaked to the Sydney Morning Herald.

    They are thought to be among those viewed in private by U.S. senators following a May, 2004 hearing and "withheld from the public to protect the integrity of military trials and to avoid further inflaming America's enemies."

    Forget about cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed inflaming riots.

    There's the video of British forces beating Iraqi youths and now these photos.
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    Can you say "Kentucky fried McDonald’s"

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    cool........but...........not as bad as our innocent headless american citizens in iraq and blown to pieces victims in new york.

    this is a war!!!!!!! more power to the soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhlmll
    cool........but...........not as bad as our innocent headless american citizens in iraq and blown to pieces victims in new york.

    this is a war!!!!!!! more power to the soldiers.

    Uh..in case you haven't heard, the Iraqis weren't involved in 911. And, guess what, the torture victims at Abu Ghraib weren't found guilty of anything either, you brain-dead, clueless, demented fvckwit.

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    Re: Suppressed Abu Ghraib Photos Leaked

    well what do you think happens when you send thousands of 20 year olds to suppres an insurgency in the middle of the desert?? boys will be boys, cept these are big boys with biiig guns...

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    Isn't this just more propaganda? Without a reliable source and some verification what do they mean?

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    Re: Suppressed Abu Ghraib Photos Leaked

    thats a lovely picture of cranberry jelly and instant oaatmeal packets, but im not sure i understand what your thread is all about...this was so last year.

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    Re: Suppressed Abu Ghraib Photos Leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by umdkook
    thats a lovely picture of cranberry jelly and instant oaatmeal packets, but im not sure i understand what your thread is all about...this was so last year.
    These photos were unavailable before this week, and give broader scope regarding the range and severity of the abuses previously not exposed.

    A major issue here is that the fact that photos and video from this are going to keep surfacing for years to come, enraging the hearts and minds we're supposed to be winning over in Iraq is a testament to why prison abuses are dangerous not only to our soldiers, but to Americans and Iraqis in general.

    It's not the exposure of the evidence that is the problem, it's the abuses in the first place.

    Would one argue against exposure of evidence regarding the My Lai or the holocaust, saying "We've seen this already?"

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    Re: Suppressed Abu Ghraib Photos Leaked

    Ummm...would anyone argue against seeing the jumpers from the WTC? Well, guess what...THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    Ummm...would anyone argue against seeing the jumpers from the WTC? Well, guess what...THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
    I remember seeing them myself on TV, and it was a horror.

    There's a difference though, one that makes comparison futile. The WTC attacks, for the most part, took place live on world wide TV, radio, internet from practically every concievable angle. Other than anecdotal stories about 9/11 there's really not much new to be gleaned about WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED via the available (or suppressed) media. Whereas the newly leaked photos and video of Abu Ghraib, over time, are helping us to piece together WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED there. Don't you get that?

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    Don't you get that the photos of the jumpers have NOT been plastered all over every possible media outlet CoUNTLESS times? Nor have ANY of the pictures of mass graves in Iraq, torture and rape rooms in Iraq, executions and beheadings in Iraq, and so on and on...

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    Re: Suppressed Abu Ghraib Photos Leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    Don't you get that the photos of the jumpers have NOT been plastered all over every possible media outlet CoUNTLESS times? Nor have ANY of the pictures of mass graves in Iraq, torture and rape rooms in Iraq, executions and beheadings in Iraq, and so on and on...
    http://images.google.com/images?q=iraq+mass+grave&hl=en

    There are dozens of photos on the first two pages alone.

    If you want video of Saddam's regime torturing people, go to ogrish.com. I'm not wading through that sewer for you.

    Pwrone, you just don't get it. We're supposed to stand for something better than the enemy. When we are responsible for atrocities, we must be reminded lest they repeat themselves.

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    Re: Suppressed Abu Ghraib Photos Leaked

    Missing on the Home Front -
    Wartime Censorship and Postwar Ignorance
    by George H. Roeder, Jr.



    http://dc.indymedia.org/front.php3?a...&group=webcast

    World War II played a pivotal role in the education of Americans ... Wartime policies and circumstances also left a legacy of ignorance. Even as governmental and private organizations provided the public with the massive amounts of information necessary for productive involvement in the war effort, they withheld information deemed detrimental to that effort. This article examines the censorship of visual materials.

    http://www.awitness.org/news/novembe..._pictures.html

    The first casualty of war is always the truth.
    Military Phsyop Dept.s have been active in censoring graphic depictions of warfare since the invention of photography.
    I don’t believe in censorship. I believe in the American public’s right to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umdkook
    well what do you think happens when you send thousands of 20 year olds to suppres an insurgency in the middle of the desert?? boys will be boys, cept these are big boys with biiig guns...
    A "Boy" will not remain one long in that Hell. If he survives death he
    will come back as a Man, at least. Sometimes as a beast.

    I know this for sure: The woods in Arkansas and Oklahoma are
    populated with a lot of these ex-patriot killers. No fault of their own
    that they're become this way; our establishment's.

    Then, when their minds are psychologically F***** Up and they are
    still looking for someone to kill, they are given a choice of either being
    exiled to the woods and chugging gallons of Thorozine to maintain
    some sembelance of desirable (?) control, or thrown into padded cells
    with straight jackets, shock treatments and lobotomies.

    These men are literally used like S*** Paper; thrown into the horror
    and brutality of war, if they survive, are brought back here, discharged
    and forgotten. There is even quibbling and reluctance over their proper
    veterans' care and compensation payments.

    I really haven't figured out yet why people insist on referring to our
    military fighting men as "boys".

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    Re: Suppressed Abu Ghraib Photos Leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by umdkook
    well what do you think happens when you send thousands of 20 year olds to suppres an insurgency in the middle of the desert?? boys will be boys, cept these are big boys with biiig guns...
    You seem to be making excuses for it.

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    Re: Suppressed Abu Ghraib Photos Leaked

    Quote Originally Posted by linda49
    Isn't this just more propaganda? Without a reliable source and some verification what do they mean?
    Linda,

    These are photos from Abu Ghraib. They were taken at the same time as the photos that came out before, they were just never released to the public. The ACLU has been trying to get their hands on them through an FOIA lawsuit, but they were leaked to SBS television, Australia.

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