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  1. #33
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    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!

    Mr. Deltoid-

    You are a tool.

    The link is real BTW. Holy smokes!

  2. #34

    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Deltoid



    But I have just received some news that has changed that spirit. I have just learned that my father, who recently suffered several strokes, may not make it through the night. I have been a regular fixture on the forum in the past couple of days answering as many questions as I can from members. But in light of this recent development, I will not be on the forum this evening. I ask that all of you keep my father and my family in your thoughts and prayers.



    I anticipate the next few days will be very challenging for me on a personal level, but I want you all to know that I remain dedicated to you all and will continue to press on in the best way I know how.



    Thank you all again for your support.



    Charis
    12dp Admin"
    Is this serious? How convenient her father got a stroke as everything is goign down. i've been reading this 12dp stuff for about a week now and THIS just made me have to register and reply.

    It amazes me that people are so quickly dismissing a news channel (who has to check and verify their facts to outdo the competetion and have money invested to do all that checking) but what's really disturbing is that you all are so willing ot believe Charis Johnson (who you never met, don't know outside of 12dp, and who only has one goal...keeping 12dp running at all cost).

    Really, if she can afford a convention, why is she soliciting free money for an attorney? If she has attorneys, why not contact the new station or the authority and get the public on her side? Forget SP, 12dp is just as shady and probably just made and SP beat them to the money.

  3. #35
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    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by WundaJigga
    Is this serious? How convenient her father got a stroke as everything is goign down. i've been reading this 12dp stuff for about a week now and THIS just made me have to register and reply.

    It amazes me that people are so quickly dismissing a news channel (who has to check and verify their facts to outdo the competetion and have money invested to do all that checking) but what's really disturbing is that you all are so willing ot believe Charis Johnson (who you never met, don't know outside of 12dp, and who only has one goal...keeping 12dp running at all cost
    Hey there Wunda,

    I myself may not know how true a fact that her father is unwell. What i know is i would never question personal issues - as i would not want to be questioned. The Golden Rule? put yourself in her shoes if your father (jus a figure of explanation) was unwell and u had a business running under a difficult time - of course it would be a challenge for u. And during this time what would u need? encouragement? or more people like you - saying that its a potential hoax?

    I'm just saying that your argument is relatively irrelevant to the situation - as she mentioned, even doing this time of hardship - she will strive to see 12dp through and through. So what more do you want?

    By the way - her father is fine and stable now thanks to the prayers of many who 'cared' and didn’t bother to waste time investigating and thinking whether or not her father was in fact unwell?'.

    ----

    Charis:
    I wanted to take this time to thank all of you for your thoughts, prayers, and expressions of support regarding the health of my father. He is now in stable condition and we continue to pray that he will not return to any critical state. I am truly blessed to have a family of 12dp members that cares. You make me proud to be in your company.


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    Quote Originally Posted by babijc
    I'll do you one better. Do you honestly believe she is the only one running 12dp? And as for the news report, I think it was very wishy washy at best so I dont think they did a very good job on the story. Seemed like political assasination like to me.
    Hey babijc

    Regarding your question, no she is not the only one running 12dp.

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    12dp Staff Shines Like Light In The Darkness
    « on: February 04, 2006, 11:42:16 PM »
    ________________________________________
    I want to take this time to express to my staff that may be reading this that even in the midst of these trying times, I have never felt so truely blessed by God than I do now because of you all.

    For all members, I want to tell you just what an amazing staff I have.

    On late Friday night, I had to make the difficult choice to steamline office operations, so as many funds as possible could be used for refunds and any necessary legal fees in our fight against Stormpay.

    It pained me literally because these are people that have become like a second family to me and have worked their butts off for me and more importantly for all of you.

    Since that decision, my staff has come to my side and expressed their support and their willingness to help me in whatever way they can, many even continuing to work. I want you all to know what a true blessing they are to the 12dp family. And I want all the staff to know that I intend to have each and everyone of you back with the family as soon as is feasible.

    God is in control and I know he watches over us all during this time.

    Thank you to the best staff in the world!



    -----

    I think many people knew about this for quite some time already babijc. But anyhow – this is just to update you. Yes, there was a point in time whereby she posted that she was the only staff – or that’s what she thought she was going to be… But her staff saw her through.

    And regarding the news stand – you may also read my personal comments on all the videos posted by cito here:

    Included in the posting are also calculations to show the possibility of 12dp’s payout:
    http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=155069&postcount=13


    Regards,

    Saint85

  4. #36
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    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!!!!

    Hi Saint, I read your link in your last post. Why would you hate to agree with me? Hahaha, I don't bash 12dp, just try to give my opinion on the topic from time to time.

    You mentioned in that post that 12dp has no complaints on file with the BBB, but Stormpay has many. Lifeclicks (the parent company of 12dp), on the other hand, has a BBB TOB Classification of "Work-At-Home Companies, Ponzi Schemes, Pyramid Companies". The principal of Lifeclicks is listed as non other than Charis Johnson. If you use the Better Business Bureau as a basis to judge Stormpay, then shouldn't you also hold 12dp up to the same BBB standards?

    Here's the link http://www.charlotte.bbb.org/commonr...?compid=121726
    Last edited by USNavySubSailor; 02-07-2006 at 06:40 AM.

  5. #37
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    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!!!!

    Yup, conveniently when Chariss's scam of a program is featured on the national news, her father falls ill. And to think some of you suckers believe it 100%...

    Charles Ponzi's followers were just as cultlike, even when he was brought down.

  6. #38
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    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!!!!

    Payment Service Associated With 12 Daily Pro Back Online; Funds Missing
    LAST UPDATE: 2/6/2006 1:33:46 AM





    After freezing accounts connected with several "auto-surf" programs and calling those programs possible "Ponzi or Pyramid Schemes", the on line payment service "Storm Pay" has been unavailable for most of the weekend. Late Sunday night, however, the site, www.stormpay.com, was accessible once again. Storm Pay account holders, including members of 12 Daily Pro, are now able to log on and check their accounts -- with one catch: Their money may not be there.

    One Storm Pay member and 12 Daily Pro investor who spoke with ABC 4 was able to check his Storm Pay account late Sunday, but his money, which should total several thousand dollars, had been transferred. Where the money went is still a mystery.

    Storm Pay is based in Clarksville, Tennessee. ABC 4 attempted to call Storm Pay Friday afternoon and got only a recorded message. A story by Heather Donahoe appearing in the The Leaf-Chronicle in Clarksville says she also attempted to call the CEO of Storm Pay, Steve Girsky, but got no response. She went to the company offices at 1690 Golf Club Lane and knocked on the door. But again, there was no response.

    Donahoe reports that the office building appears to be undergoing a major renovation. She talked with a construction worker who said that he'd seen a Storm Pay employee on Friday, but could offer no other insight into the status of the company. She also reports that the building had lights on Saturday night and still had machines and office equipment inside. Her full story can be found by following this link:

    http://www.theleafchronicle.com/apps...=2006602050337



  7. #39
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    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!!!!

    Subject: 12dp Update - Feb 6
    From: "12 Daily Pro"

    You have received a message from 12 Daily Pro:

    I wanted to take this time to update you on our progress with the StormPay issue and few other items.



    StormPay

    I am sure you are all understandably anxious to hear updates on our progress toward recovering our funds. Today, we were able to arrange to retain the attorney who will be representing us in this matter. He has outlined a strategy for attempting to get our funds released by StormPay by whatever means at our disposal. We hope for swift action in the matter and will keep you as informed as things unfold, to the extent that we can without compromising the case.



    Refunds

    We will begin issuing a few refunds this evening and will process a batch of refunds daily. The order of the refunds will be: 1) Remaining Egold/EMO 2)Remaining Egold/Money Order, 3)Compounded EMO, 4)EMO. Please note that because we are unsure of how fast we will be able to resolve the StormPay situation, nor what the outcome of our efforts will be, we cannot provide any kind of time frame by which these EMO refunds will be issued. Also, due to StormPay’s random refunds and double payments that they are conducting with our funds and without our input, we are unable to yet give an accurate assessment to you of how we will deal with the StormPay refunds. Our hope is that by the time EMO payouts (currently on Dec. 8 expiration), catch up with where we left off with StormPay withdrawals, (Dec 23 expiration), that we will have some resolution on the StormPay issue and can announce a plan and/or for StormPay refunds.



    Ticket System

    Tomorrow, we will be revamping the ticket system to meet our current circumstances. In light of what has occurred and the fact that our goal is to be able to refund all pending and active upgrades, we will be closing all account issue related tickets. The new ticket departments will meet our current situation as well as provide support for the new site. There will also be a department for any missing EMO upgrades. Because there is no way for us to verify missing StormPay at this time, these will have to wait until we are able to gain access to our account data there. We strongly urge that you not submit tickets asking about the current situation; we will be posting updates daily and sometimes several times a day regarding progress on these matters. Our support staff has been extremely reduced, so we can have more funds available for refunds and basic operations. So, inundating the tickets system will only slow our ability to respond to the specific ticket issues we deem vital at this time.



    Forum

    We have now made all areas of the forum viewable to all guests, so that all of you can read it. We are unable to registrations at this time, due to concerns about mass spammers who have attacked our forum in the past.



    Accounts Will Not Go Inactive

    There have been some concerns by some members who have not upgraded in a while that their accounts will go inactive during this period. Due to current events, will be suspend the inactive status for anyone that would have normally been moved to that status, so as not to interfere with any refund they might receive.



    The New Site

    Thanks to the hard work of our technical staff, committed to LifeClicks despite all the happenings of the past week, we will be launching the new site by the end of the day tomorrow. You will notice that the 12dp homepage will change at that time, to reflect our current situation. The homepage will have three main links, one for the forum, one for members to login and check their account states and member news, and one to visit our new site.



    Thank You

    I wanted to take this time to thank all of you for your thoughts, prayers, and expressions of support regarding the health of my father. He is now in stable condition and we continue to pray that he will not return to any critical state. I am truly blessed to have a family of 12dp members that cares. You make me proud to be in your company.



    This is a challenging time for us all, but know that we are dedicated and focused on doing everything we can to insure these recent events are overcome and we can all move forward.



    We thank you for your continued support during this time.



    Charis

    12dp Admin

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    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!!!!

    Here you go:

    http://scam.com/showthread.php?t=9545

    enjoy

  9. #41

    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!

    OKAY, so maybe i'm a little harsh to judge her fathers illness but tell me that doesn't reek of "phony". But still...

    the only reason i've been reading is because the other half chose to get involved with 12dp on the urging of a friend. even after the sales pitch, i
    found it to be a little fishy. So i did my own research and things didn't add up. First, with their website, the contact link is DEAD. no info to contact them besides the ticketing system. And for those who are going to tell me about the harassing calls... thye don't even give contact info to the members. I'm sorry, but i would need a verifiable address (without having to go through all the hoops) and/or phone number of what i'm putting my money into. But there are a few other questions i'd like answered:

    What is there physical contact info? (not talking about emails to there domain. I mean a phone number-not lifeclicks hotline-where i can reach them DIRECTLY.)

    Where did charis work before starting Llifeclicks/12dp? (Not type of work, actual places).

    What are her credentials? (i mean..where is her degree from and in what?)

    Why doesn't she go to the authorities since SP has effectively stolen her money? (One of the first questions of legal proceedings: "Did you file a report with the authorities?")

    If she could continue to pay out WITHOUT new memberships, shouldn't she be able to afford legal representation without donations right now? Besides... there are no new memberships AND she isn't paying out at the moment. So why not use that money to pay legal fees?

    I mean really...i can look at a LEGIT AND LEGAL business such as say Microsoft and find a Bio on Bill Gates (including a birthdate...which Charis vehemently refuses to give because it could lead to "ID theft"...HA!), a number to customer service and tecnical support, an address to the offices, etc. SIMPLY BY POKING AROUND THE WEBSITE. i don't have to do a whois search and go throught the BBB and google msg boards to find it. (And even after all of that work...a lot of info on 12dp is vague...)

    (as a side note...SP refunded the money to the other half before they made off with the rest of it. so i'm not bitter. And even if they hadn't, he didn't invest anything we couldn't afford to lose.)

  10. #42
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    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!!!!

    The Memphis FBI office has confirmed there is no current investigation into 12 Daily Pro.
    However, it has confirmed receiving many calls about Stormpay.

  11. #43

    Re: Supposedly 12DP is bein investiaged. By WHO? Their Janitor?! STORMPAY IS A SCAM!!!!

    Hi...

    I wanted to let you know that there will be a statement released in the member news area within an hour with an update on communications between StormPay and 12daily Pro attornies.

    It will also be posted here on scam.com.

    This statement will address the resolution of the freeze on 12dp's StormPay account by attornies for both parties. It will also address the StormPay account issues many of you have experienced today.

    I hope knowing a statement is coming can help relieve some of your confusion and concern.
    www.12dailypro.com - a revolting Ponzi scam! Don't believe the hype; contact your credit card issuer and charge back today!

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