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    Re: Canada's Fatal Error --- Health Care as a Right (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by RegulationE
    Why give us Coal in our Stockings with such great presents under the tree
    :eek: Dante has taken up the charge rather well without using such foul tones :D
    But dchristie is such a colorful poster and I deserve a nice present under the tree too. And I have to wait another week for my present despite all the trials I put up with here. ;)

    He may or may not decide to clean up his foul tones, I'll deal with that when the time comes, I'm POSITIVE that some right winger will have to point out the error of his ways to me. But I find it very entertaining to watch the neocons get riled up every time he calls them a monkey. It's predictable, but funny every single time.

    Namaste'

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    Re: Canada's Fatal Error --- Health Care as a Right (Part I)

    Lady Mod...

    dchristie is much better as Dante :D

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    Re: Canada's Fatal Error --- Health Care as a Right (Part I)

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    Lady Mod...

    dchristie is much better as Dante :D
    Dante is pretty good, but he's not funny and not as colorful.

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    Re: Canada's Fatal Error --- Health Care as a Right (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by sojustask
    Dante is pretty good, but he's not funny and not as colorful.

    LM
    dchristie colorful???? I guess each artist prefers their own colors :D

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    Re: Canada's Fatal Error --- Health Care as a Right (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by RegulationE
    Ronald....

    I am on your side of this debate...please remember that ;)

    I think you misheard the Presidents comment. He did not say they weren't safe, but rather the US FDA had no checks and balances to verify they where safe and there was a possibility of getting unsafe drugs. But that is neither here nor there.

    Canadian drugs are cheaper because the Canadian Government does two things ours does not. First they cut deals with the Drug companies to buy them and get better pricing, and second they subsidize the cost as well. For this reason, Canadians should be very happy that it is harder (in theory) to import Canadian Drugs.

    The unsafe comment is again something I think should not have been said.

    I have only heard two types of complaints about the Canadian Health Care system from Canadians.

    1) it causes our taxes to go through the roof. (false claim from what I have found)

    2) it takes a long time to get elective surgery and elective surgery is for things such as knee replacements, organ replacements, fixing a heart valvue that is faulty but not putting you in the hospital type of things. (some I know to be true and some I have no idea about)

    As for Canadian talent coming to work in the states, well I am sure that happens. I would come to Canada to work if I was going to make more money doing what I do. We get a lot of top talent from all over the world because of the technology and the potential finacial gains that are present. Individual greatness is not dependent on where you where born ;)

    I personally love our health care system in the States as you love yours in Canada. I know I would likely be dead if I had lived in Mexico. I may be in very bad shape if I had lived in Canada. Why, the technology I needed after my accident was not available in those two countries at the time.

    The problem in the US is the insurance companies and the view American's have about how insurance should be used. Of course that is my opinion.
    The REAL problem with the health care systems in both countries is the use of drugs. Doesn't matter if they're Canadian or American drugs, they're all garbage. The health systems are under great stress due to the greed of the pharmaceutical companies wanting to gain more customers by dubbing every little ailment as a "disease" or some type of syndrome. Of course, then they have an open monopoly on people and pump them full of narcotics that don't cure anything other than numb the pain (which has its uses but shouldn't be used other than for life threatening circumstances or severe pain caused from whatever.) A person cannot continue to take drugs without repercussions. The body eventually protests the use of them and reacts accordingly.

    Rather than educate people and have them learn more of how they can help themselves, they are making people dependent on the medical system. There is a lot of money rolling around out there in all of this. Don't ever rule out the possibility that the government and pharmaceutical companies know exactly what they are doing. People are just told to believe in the system. But thankfully, more people are awaking to see the light and researching and making decisions to protect themselves and their loved ones from these chemical poisons.
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