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    Beware: The Cult of Hillary

    Beware: The Cult of Hillary

    The biggest threat to Democrats is one of their own:
    Hillary Rodham Clinton

    No Republican bashing today. Why? Because it's not required. The Republican revolution is finally petering out, dying a death of a thousand self-inflicted cuts. I said several years ago that the best way to get rid of neo-conservatives is to give them everything they said they wanted. They got pretty much all of what they said they wanted – tax cuts for the rich, welfare cuts for the poor, less environmental restrictions on businesses, free trade, conservative courts, faith-based politics, faith-based education. It began in 1994 with Newt and will come to a grinding stop in November 2006.

    That's the good news.

    The bad news comes two years later, in November 2008. While Democrats will regain some of their lost power in '06, (with the growing possibility they will even regain at least one house of Congress,) the party is risking the big prize, the White House in '08.

    That risk can be summed up in two words: Hillary Clinton. If Democrats give Hillary the nod in '08 they will lose the White House again -- and this time not by the narrowest of margins, but in a landslide. Why?

    Because Hillary is "one of them." There comes along from time to time unique personalities that, flawed as they are, attract followers like flies to dung. The likes of Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Rev. Moon, Tom DeLay, George W. Bush. People like them, follow them down the strangest of paths and trust them with their most precious possessions.

    This leaves the rest of us watching in disbelief, scratching our heads wondering if maybe we're missing something. How can otherwise functioning, rational, law-abiding folk be attracted to such obvious liars, phonies and connivers? But they are. Always have been and it will always be so. It's truly one of life's great mysteries.

    Hillary Clinton is precisely such a person. There's something about the woman that dazzles some people.

    I first saw it three years ago while attending meetings with Democrat strategists in Washington. A cell phone would ring. "Mumble, mumble... okay." Click. "I have to go," the recipient would say, adding importantly, "I have to meet with Hillary." A knowing hush would fall over the room. Glances exchanged. Heads nodded. A call had come from on high. Power had touched all in the room. It was as if the image of the Virgin Mary had appeared on that fellow's toasted cheese sandwich.

    I called it The Cult of Hillary. And I want to tell you, it's strong, organized and growing. They are hungry. Hungry for power. Hungry to put their leader in charge. They revere her, hang on her every thought, follow her every command. They are an army of Hillary Moonies and they have their eyes firmly planted on the prize.

    Then there are those die-hard pro-Hillary voters. Somehow Hillary has convinced them she actually cares about the same things they care about. This is no small feat since all available documentary evidence points to a woman who cares only about what is selling at any point in time. When the sales climate changes, she changes right along with it.

    And she lies. She lies just like the very politicians those same voters claim they despise.

    "I am happy being a senator from New York and have no plans to run for President," she has told every reporter who asked. "I'm not running," she said at a breakfast with political reporters. When asked whether anything could convince her to change her mind, she shook her head and said firmly: "No."

    (I can always tell when Hillary is fixin' to lie because she always precedes the untruth with a disarming, dismissive, phony laugh. Remember that.)


    Despite all those video taped denials, Hillary really is running for President. (Did you ever doubt it?) The Hillary for President campaign kicked into higher gear in recent days. The little triangulator got about the business of putting a new coat of paint on, reinventing herself to reflect the very latest poll findings.

    On the War in Iraq: Hillary voted for the damn thing, along with other weak-kneed Dems scared they'd look like sissies if they didn't. Then she spent the next three years trying to look at least as macho as George W. on the war. But now that polls show voters are fed up with the war, so she is too -- now.

    But when you just spent three years defending your vote to go to war you have back out of that position carefully, slowly, an inch at time. No quick moves, she's too smart for that. Just a long, slow turn -- a giant leftward arch she hopes voters will not notice ends 180 degrees from where she began.

    Did she begin this turn dramatically, bravely, like John Murtha? No way, Jose. Reporters would grill her, confront her with her earlier pro-war statements. That would screw up her stealth metamorphosis. So, Hillary began her transformation by sitting right down and writing herself a letter last week:


    "I take responsibility for my vote, and I, along with a majority of Americans, expect the president and his administration to take responsibility for the false assurances, faulty evidence and mismanagement of the war," the New York senator said in a 1600-word letter to thousands of people who have written her about the war. (Full Story)


    Hillary was brainwashed by the Bush administration? Was that it? Yep. And, damn it, she expects an apology! I guess I'd buy that had she written the same letter two years ago, when nearly everyone else accepted we'd been sold a bill of goods. But no, Hillary continued supporting the war until just recently. Why? Because Hillary wasn't finished establishing her tough-girl bones. More US troops had to die so Hillary could prove she's no limp-wrist liberal.

    But, now the polls show that even pro-military Red State voters are beginning to lean left on the war. Hillary had to reposition, let the growing number of anti-war voters know she was with them. She needed to give them a big Hillary, "Me too!"

    On Meaningless Patriotic Gestures: Triangulating ain't easy. A person can get herself all tangled up if not careful. A valueless trangulator needs to be fast on her feet. Backing away from supporting the war would get her some votes from the left, but could lose her an equal number of votes from moderate conservatives. Because it would associate her with the liberal anti-war Democrats. Hillary has done the electoral collage math and knows she needs moderate voters from Red States to win the White House. So she had to come up with a gimmick to lead moderates into believing she's no America-hating liberal. No siree Bob! So we got this:


    WASHINGTON (AP) _ Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is supporting new legislation to criminalize desecration of the United States flag ...Clinton, D-N.Y., has agreed to co-sponsor a measure by Republican Sen. Bob Bennett of Utah, which has been written in hopes of surviving any constitutional challenge following a 2003 Supreme Court ruling on the subject....Her support of Bennett's bill follows her position in Congress last summer, when a constitutional ban on flag-burning was debated. Clinton said then she didn't support a constitutional ban, but did support federal legislation making it a crime to desecrate the flag. (Full Story)


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    Presto chango on flag burning. "You against burning the American flag." Hillary says, "Well, me too. Honest."

    Hillary's explanation for this switcheroo is classic Clinton. Is she or isn't she for a law against burning US flags? Well, depends on what the meaning of "is" is. She has been against a constitutional amendment and still is. But now she is for a federal statute against flag burning. What's that all about? Triangulation, baby. Triangulation.

    Let me help you solve this Hillary puzzle. It's really quite simple and obvious. (Too obvious.) A constitutional amendment can't be overturned by the Supreme Court. A statute passed by Congress can be. Hillary figures she can have it both ways. By backing a statute against flag burning she can convince moderate voters that she's a true blue flag waving jingo American. But she knows such a law to be so obviously unconstitutional even a conservative Supreme Court would overturn it.

    Is this governing? Hardly. It's just more of the same cynical, strategic fakery and demagoguery that's gotten us into the various messes we're mired in now.

    The above should be reasons enough for Democrats to say no to Hillary in '08. But add to all that the truckloads of negative PR baggage Hillary drags with her and you have the perfect formula for failure. (More than failure, a historic political drubbing.) As I said in an earlier column, if you thought the sleazy Swift Boaters disemboweled John Kerry just wait until their like-minded brethren get rolling on presidential candidate Hillary Clinton!

    If, after thinking about all that, you're still dazzled by Hillary, try this on for size. Republicans may be corrupt but they are not stupid. They understand they let their far right wing push the envelope too far. They read polls too. They know voters are fed up with false trickle down economic promises, tax cuts for the already wealthy, mounting deficits, job losses and war. And be assured their candidates for president in 08 will reflect that. Hillary will not have the luxury of running against the likes of George W. Bush in '08.

    So, you want Hillary? But Hillary vs. who?

    How about this GOP ticket: McCain/Guliani.

    Hillary would be finished the day that ticket were announced. Finished. First McCain's position on the war is, unlike Hillary's, is believable -- If the nation is really at war, as the President claims, then act like it -- either double then number of US troops in Iraq or get out. And on the subject of torture he speaks with personal authority and is unconditionally against it.

    Guliani's position on abortion and gay rights is as liberal as Hillary's but more reliable. Think about it. It's easy for Hillary to espouse choice and gay rights because those positions represent her party's positions. But Rudy risks losing Republican votes by holding firm on a woman's right to choose and gay rights.

    So ask yourself, if the day comes when the chips are really down on a woman's right to choose, which of the two, Rudy or Hillary, do you think would stand firmly with women? I suspect it would be Rudy. Hillary would check the polls first and, if she found the winds blowing even slightly left to right that day, she'd sell women down the river in a New York minute. Believe it. Her finger is already testing the breezes on abortion rights:


    Hillary is already "talking about finding “common ground” with abortion foes. Like Moses leading her party to the Promised Land, Hillary is treading a path to Red State America. She may be the darling of the liberal left, but she won in New York by appealing to upstate voters who are traditionally Republican." (Full Story)


    I hope that between now and next year Democrats figure this out and start looking for two candidates progressives can enthusiastically embrace in 08. If such candidates don't exist within the confines of the old Democrat Party, then it's time for progressives to start looking for a new home.

    And the best way for the party to signal that moment is to nominate Hillary for President.


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    Hello All,

    In all honesty, I do not believe Hillary Clinton, could, or should be President. When this country is ready for a woman president(and that will be a long time from now), it should NOT be Hillary Clinton or anyone like her.

    DeeDee1965

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    Re: Beware: The Cult of Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by sojustask
    Presto chango on flag burning. "You against burning the American flag." Hillary says, "Well, me too. Honest."

    Hillary's explanation for this switcheroo is classic Clinton. Is she or isn't she for a law against burning US flags? Well, depends on what the meaning of "is" is. She has been against a constitutional amendment and still is. But now she is for a federal statute against flag burning. What's that all about? Triangulation, baby. Triangulation.

    Let me help you solve this Hillary puzzle. It's really quite simple and obvious. (Too obvious.) A constitutional amendment can't be overturned by the Supreme Court. A statute passed by Congress can be. Hillary figures she can have it both ways. By backing a statute against flag burning she can convince moderate voters that she's a true blue flag waving jingo American. But she knows such a law to be so obviously unconstitutional even a conservative Supreme Court would overturn it.

    Is this governing? Hardly. It's just more of the same cynical, strategic fakery and demagoguery that's gotten us into the various messes we're mired in now.

    The above should be reasons enough for Democrats to say no to Hillary in '08. But add to all that the truckloads of negative PR baggage Hillary drags with her and you have the perfect formula for failure. (More than failure, a historic political drubbing.) As I said in an earlier column, if you thought the sleazy Swift Boaters disemboweled John Kerry just wait until their like-minded brethren get rolling on presidential candidate Hillary Clinton!

    If, after thinking about all that, you're still dazzled by Hillary, try this on for size. Republicans may be corrupt but they are not stupid. They understand they let their far right wing push the envelope too far. They read polls too. They know voters are fed up with false trickled own economic promises, tax cuts for the already wealthy, mounting deficits, job losses and war. And be assured their candidates for president in 08 will reflect that. Hillary will not have the luxury of running against the likes of George W. Bush in '08.

    So, you want Hillary? But Hillary vs. who?

    How about this GOP ticket: McCain/Guliani.

    Hillary would be finished the day that ticket were announced. Finished. First McCain's position on the war is, unlike Hillary's, is believable -- If the nation is really at war, as the President claims, then act like it -- either double then number of US troops in Iraq or get out. And on the subject of torture he speaks with personal authority and is unconditionally against it.

    Guliani's position on abortion and gay rights is as liberal as Hillary's but more reliable. Think about it. It's easy for Hillary to espouse choice and gay rights because those positions represent her party's positions. But Rudy risks losing Republican votes by holding firm on a woman's right to choose and gay rights.

    So ask yourself, if the day comes when the chips are really down on a woman's right to choose, which of the two, Rudy or Hillary, do you think would stand firmly with women? I suspect it would be Rudy. Hillary would check the polls first and, if she found the winds blowing even slightly left to right that day, she'd sell women down the river in a New York minute. Believe it. Her finger is already testing the breezes on abortion rights:


    Hillary is already "talking about finding “common ground” with abortion foes. Like Moses leading her party to the Promised Land, Hillary is treading a path to Red State America. She may be the darling of the liberal left, but she won in New York by appealing to upstate voters who are traditionally Republican." (Full Story)


    I hope that between now and next year Democrats figure this out and start looking for two candidates progressives can enthusiastically embrace in 08. If such candidates don't exist within the confines of the old Democrat Party, then it's time for progressives to start looking for a new home.

    And the best way for the party to signal that moment is to nominate Hillary for President.


    Stephen Pizzo
    Raconteur at Large
    Blog: http://www.newsforreal.com
    I was all set to back her until i read this, now i may be second guessing it. But good Report anyway, just disappointing in alot of ways, I was thinking a womans presence would be a could thing in the Presidents chair, maybe not Hillarys after hearing how wishey warshey she might be though....
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    i was listening to maureen dowd (are men necessary)at a book fair day or 2 ago when she mentioned the 2008 ideal shootout as obama/clinton vrs mc'cain/rice!!i had to agree!!what a showdown!!,in many aspects!! :eek: :p :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx
    i was listening to maureen dowd (are men necessary)at a book fair day or 2 ago when she mentioned the 2008 ideal shootout as obama/clinton vrs mc'cain/rice!!i had to agree!!what a showdown!!,in many aspects!! :eek: :p :rolleyes:
    Unfortnately for the Democrats and possibly the Country, Obama is not well enough known yet. From the limited information the general public has on him, he does look like he could be a good candidate.

    McCain is probably a pretty good choice for the Republicans and the country as well. Having Obama and McCain debating it out for the 2008 Presidency would likely be a good change in common politics.

    The VP candidates mention abouve would make things a look little less like a new way of doing things and much more like business as usual.

    Obama/Edwards is an interesting ticket idea for the democrats and probably a pretty good chance of success if Obama can get known for the right reasons between now and the elections.

    McCain/Guliani would make for an interesting and probably winnable ticket for the Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by war_man
    I was all set to back her until i read this, now i may be second guessing it. But good Report anyway, just disappointing in alot of ways, I was thinking a womans presence would be a could thing in the Presidents chair, maybe not Hillarys after hearing how wishey warshey she might be though....
    war-man,

    Hillary has been all over the map since the day she appeared on the National Level as the First Lady elect. She has always seemed to position herself with the polls. With the exception of a National Health Care system similar to Canada's (and that is not so hot), she rarely seems to stay on any topic once it drops below 50% approcal rating by the public.

    The time may be now for a female Presidential candidate, but it is not now nor ever will be time for Hillary Clinton to be that person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RegulationE
    war-man,

    Hillary has been all over the map since the day she appeared on the National Level as the First Lady elect. She has always seemed to position herself with the polls. With the exception of a National Health Care system similar to Canada's (and that is not so hot), she rarely seems to stay on any topic once it drops below 50% approcal rating by the public.

    The time may be now for a female Presidential candidate, but it is not now nor ever will be time for Hillary Clinton to be that person.
    bein the edgar casey type i will take that as a prediction!!for hillary!!

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    Look at the date of this OP!!! This woman is psychic!

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    Fuck this piece of shit. He uses his medical degree to do nothing but lend underserved legitimacy to to his shitty, harmful beliefs. A few years ago, I heard him on the radio saying that if he were Lindsey Lohan's family, he'd get her sober by planting a bunch of illegal narcotics in the car without her knowledge, calling the cops on her, then "making sure the judge sentenced her to a three year minimum sobriety program." But OH, wait a minute - that's not how it ing works! You don't get to plant narcotics on someone (which is *ing illegal* in and of itself), then just request that the judge places your relative in some kind of rehab. The judge chooses the sentence without your input, and it usually involves JAIL and a lifelong record - not a helpful stint at Promises Malibu, you dumb "doctor."

    What pisses me off about this is that some ordinary mom in Bum, Ohio could have heard this shit, and thought it was a great solution to her teenage son's pot smoking habit or something. I don't know how the this asshole hasn't had his medical credentials revoked yet. I could go on in greater detail about all of the reasons why this "doctor" is disgustingly unethical, deserves no title other than "self-serving fame whore," but I'll restrain myself. (I will point out that I haven't even ing started on "Celebrity Rehab," but beyond that, I'll restrain myself.)

    tl;dr Dr. Drew's opinions on Hillary Clinton's health have about as much merit as an orangutan's opinion of white wine vinegar, and he should shove an open bottle of white wine vinegar up his ass. Hillary haters really do consistently rank among the best and brightest, don't they?

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