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  1. #1
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    Mar 2005

    How Not To Sell A War

    How many more blatant and fatuous lies is the public going to be presented with before the wheels completely fall off the lemon Bush and Cheney have sold the American People? "They attacked Us Cause They Hate Our Freedoms" just isn't cutting it with those having an IQ over 40 these days. This means 60% of Americans aren't buying. Remember "political capital"? This has now become "political bankruptcy".

    Bush Owns the OSP and the Broken Iraqi Pottery
    by Ahmed Amr
    November 28, 2005

    After two long years of dodging and weaving, the Bush administration is finally being held to account for fixing, twisting, exaggerating and cherry picking pre-war WMD intelligence. So far, the White House has responded to these charges with pleas of innocence and assertions that hostilities were initiated only as a last resort and based on the best information available at the time. Since the Libby indictment, the administration and its media cronies have launched an aggressive campaign to convince an increasingly skeptical public that Bush honestly believed that Saddam possessed WMD stockpiles and was behind the 9/11 atrocities.

    One positive aspect of this new White House strategy is that Dick Cheney is no longer free to insinuate that Iraq had lethal arsenals of unconventional weapons. Until very recently, Cheney continued to propagate the ridiculous notion that Saddam was involved in the planning and execution of the 9/11 terrorist assaults. This is no small retreat for a man who claimed that “It's been pretty well confirmed that [Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.” This, after all, is the very same Cheney who told us on Aug. 26, 2002 that “there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.”

    We should all be thankful for small favors but there remains the single most important question: did the administration get the intelligence wrong or did they deliberately and systematically cook the books?

    When George Bush claims both ignorance and naiveté -- who amongst us can provide convincing evidence to prove a contrarian thesis? To make a case that Bush and Cheney systematically lied us into a war of choice, one has to provide iron clad proof that the pre-war intelligence was fabricated, manipulated and distorted and that both men were fully aware of the cherry picking operation going on in their front yard.

    By all accounts, Cheney was personally involved in the intelligence gathering process and spent an inordinate amount of time in Langley. The CIA analysts -- despite enormous pressure -- refused to give credibility to the neocon contention that Saddam was behind 9/11 or in any way connected to Al Qaeda. So, why then did our President of Vice and Torture continue to spread the unfounded and incredible idea that Iraq was providing aid and comfort to Bin Laden and that Saddam had set up WMD training camps for Al Qaeda terrorists? More to the point, why is it so reprehensible and irresponsible to call Cheney a serial liar?

    Despite the daily accumulation of evidence that the pre-war intelligence was deliberately corrupted, the White House continues to market the Rovian spin de jure which goes something like this. “We had credible intelligence that Saddam had WMD stockpiles. After 9/11, we couldn’t take the chance that he might hand them over to Bin Laden. Other intelligence agencies around the world concurred with our assessments and we shared all available information with Congress before they voted to support the invasion. If we were wrong, so was the rest of the world. We were taken in by the Chalabi crowd and had no reason to suspect that they were duping us. In any case, what’s done is done. We have to look forward -- not rehash the past and waste time on revisionist history. Our mission is to defeat the insurgents and we will not waiver until we achieve a decisive victory. We can’t publicly define the parameters of victory because that will only embolden the enemy. If we falter, Iraq will fall in the hands of Al Zarqawi and become a base for exporting terrorism. It is irresponsible and reprehensible to suggest that this administration lied to the American people. We intend to vigorously contest this vicious slander which originated from the usual suspects on the radical left coast. Trust us. We did not deliberately fix the intelligence to make a case for a war of choice. We went to war as a last resort and only after all other options had been exhausted. This smear campaign is providing aid and comfort to the enemy and confusing our brave lads who are fighting the good fight to spread the blessings of democracy to the people of the Middle East.”


  2. #2
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    Feb 2005

    Re: How Not To Sell A War


    While posting anything on any of your threads something that does not agree with you usually leads to nothing productive, I am going to try to ask you some questions anyway.

    When did the President ever state, leading up to this war in Iraq, that Saddam was behind the events of 9/11? I know the lefts makes this claim over and over, but I have never seen transcripts of the speech nor did I ever hear him say it in any speech I listened to. He did say Saddam had ties to terrorists, and that he had ties to Al Quada, but never have I heard him say Saddam was behind the 9/11 attacks. If you could provide links to this information, from a non partisian site (from either side), it would possibly help the credibility of the comments.

    Also, in your view, why did the events of 9/11 happen? Why was the World Trade center bombed during the Clinton administration? Why was the USS Cole bombed during the Clinton administration?

    I am not trying to say it was Clinton's fault we where attacked in any of these three situations, Just curious from your point of view why they happened.

    Our country seemed, at least from my point of view, to try every diplomatic solution to solve problems during Clinton's terms. So if we where such strong diplomats during that time period, why did we get attacked?

    Was it because we needed to be taught a lesson for going to the defense of another country that was being invaded by Iraq? Seems many people forget that the Aggression into Kuwait by Saddam was what originally got our military to react in the middle east.

    Here's to hoping we can have a civil conversation about the issues at hand.

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