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    Pay Welfare Mom's to Get Married?

    Don't pay moms to get married
    By DeWayne Wickham

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...-wickham_x.htm

    Here's something President Bush and I agree on: Children fare better when raised in homes with two happily married, loving parents.
    Bush, who campaigned as a less-government-is-good-government Republican, is so convinced of this that he is pressing Congress to add money to promote marriage in a bill that reauthorizes the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. The legislation, already approved by the House, is expected to be voted on by the Senate before the current law expires at the end of this month.

    Bush wants to spend $300 million a year to hawk the value of marriage to welfare mothers. Counseling couples on the virtues of marriage isn't a bad idea - as long as their participation isn't coerced in any way.

    But that's just what opponents of the president's "marriage incentives" program believe will happen if it becomes law. They fear that other states will follow West Virginia's lead and offer to put more money in a mother's welfare check if she marries the father of her dependent children.

    They're expected to argue this point today during a Capitol Hill news conference. The event was called to drum up support for a Senate amendment that would redirect Bush's marriage-incentives money to other programs that "strengthen protections for the most disadvantaged families," such as teen parents and those who care for disabled children.

    "The amendment targets scarce federal resources to where they will work best," said its author, Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.

    Murray's change would not stop states from offering welfare recipients extra money to tie the knot. The authority for them to do that is implicit in the welfare-block-grant payments that were made to states under the original 1996 welfare-reform bill and would continue with its reauthorization.

    "Under the current (law), a state could do that, and nobody that I know of is suggesting that authority be taken away from them," said Wade Horn, the assistant Health and Human Services secretary who oversees welfare programs. But taking away that authority is exactly what ought to be done.

    Horn said the administration would not allow states to use any of the welfare-reauthorization bill's $300 million in marriage-incentives funds to pay a bounty to poor women who marry. But the block-grant portion of the legislation leaves open that possibility, as West Virginia has shown.

    There's a real danger in offering poor women a financial incentive to marry. Many of them have gone on welfare to escape a violent relationship, according to a report being released today by the National Organization for Women's Legal Defense and Education Fund. It concludes that abuse victims are less likely to find and keep a job or pursue the education they need to get off welfare.

    Faced with the choice of leaving an abusive, unloving partner or getting additional public assistance to care for their children in return for marrying their tormentor, some women might opt to take the money. That's an enticement the federal government shouldn't allow states to dangle before these women.

    "Simply providing financial incentives for marriage is not what the Bush marriage-incentive program is about," Horn said. Instead, he said, Bush's emphasis is on counseling, educational and mentoring programs that will help married couples stay together.

    That's a departure from what Horn advocated in a 2001 Brookings Institution article written while he still was president of the National Fatherhood Initiative. Then, he said that while reauthorizing the welfare-reform act, Congress "could require states to follow West Virginia's lead and provide a cash bonus to single mothers on welfare who marry the child's biological father."

    A better idea would be for Congress to expressly prohibit states from doing that.


    DeWayne Wickham writes weekly for USA TODAY.

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    Hey, Right Leaning FOX hates the idea.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89809,00.html

    Government Should Get Out of Personal Lives
    Thursday, June 19, 2003
    By Radley Balko

    This month, the Bush administration asked Congress to approve $1.5 billion for a "marriage promotion" package.

    This comes after a similar $300 million marriage incentive program they attempted to tack on to the welfare reform reauthorization bill last year. Conservatives, you see, believe one man-one woman marriages to be the best setup for a happy and prosperous society.

    They may just be right, but so what if they are? Really, isn’t that the set up most of us are likely to choose anyway? Why force everyone else to pay for programs designed to persuade us to make decisions most of us would make anyway?

    If leftists were smart, they’d point out the hypocrisy of conservatives on the issue of marriage incentives. They’d ask why conservatives trust people to make smart decisions without state intervention about how they spend and invest their money, but can’t muster a similar trust when it comes to how people live their personal lives. They’d ask why conservatives -- who claim to be skeptical of government and its power of coercion -- insist on bringing that same state and those same powers of coercion into the most personal, intimate and important decision we make in our lives -- the decision to commit to another person.

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    Unreal. WHAT NEXT?

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    Re: Pay Welfare Mom's to Get Married?

    Well, this brought a smile to my face. Not sure that I agree with it. How about a program where we "pay" kids to stay in school? Most teen pregnancies occur when they are Middle school age. Ok, so it might be a little bit expensive but if we, as taxpayers, applied say $1000 for each year a child stays in school and they have to get passing grades. Then when they graduate from high school they can then apply that money toward college or an industrial school? It would come to about $6000 but it would help toward college. That might save us more money in the long run. Oh, and no pregnancies. Maybe pay a bonus for A) Not getting pregnant and B) Not getting a girl pregnant say $500 extra each year. I'd rather spend the money here than give it to Halliburton.

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    Re: Pay Welfare Mom's to Get Married?

    Quote Originally Posted by EderLore
    Well, this brought a smile to my face. Not sure that I agree with it. How about a program where we "pay" kids to stay in school? Most teen pregnancies occur when they are Middle school age. Ok, so it might be a little bit expensive but if we, as taxpayers, applied say $1000 for each year a child stays in school and they have to get passing grades. Then when they graduate from high school they can then apply that money toward college or an industrial school? It would come to about $6000 but it would help toward college. That might save us more money in the long run. Oh, and no pregnancies. Maybe pay a bonus for A) Not getting pregnant and B) Not getting a girl pregnant say $500 extra each year. I'd rather spend the money here than give it to Halliburton.
    Hmmm, that makes more sense than a lot of stuff being thrown out there these days.

    Too bad we can't pay teens to practice abstinence, hey?

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    Re: Pay Welfare Mom's to Get Married?

    FUNNY!!.how the right wing ZEALOTS are "strangely" absent from all seriously redikulus doings of the administration.OH!! wait!!it's just "W" bashing!!uhhuh! :eek: :p :D

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