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  1. #1
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    This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    1. GCISurf. The admin sent out this nasty threatening message to members. Some also say this is the same message from ExtrixSurf (#2 on the list). And these people were also NetIBA certified, which just goes to show it means nothing:
    "GCIsurf.com
    To all the members of GCIsurf.com,

    These of you that thinks we can be caught or you can complain the
    autorithy from us,its better to give up because it is not possible to catch
    us.Only we know who we are - but it isn't possible for someone else to
    know who really operates the program.
    From the beggning our plan was to protect ourselves if the program
    fall.
    Here is the plan which does not allows us to do a risk:
    First we have phone cards with numbers + 359 885 363155 / +359 885
    363154 which can't be tracked and they are anonymous.It is like buying an
    ice cream from the shop (no names, no information at all!)
    The adress listed in our whois information is not real and we are from
    Plovdiv.
    We operated the program from PC clubs and it's anonymous again , we
    just come in the club , pay for hour , two , ten and we sit down on the
    PC and work.
    We used stollen documents to confirm ourselves in the TAS newsletter
    and Intgold , stormpay ... (we made few unreal letters for TAS as
    attorney letters , bank statements with unreal signs and seals and stamps
    made from us .... we paid one kid to rent a postal box again with stollen
    documents to get our anonymous debit cards and the stormpay - netiba
    letters.
    With the anonymous debit cards we took some money for us , the cards
    are on funny names because the company gcard doesn't ask for
    confirmation and even if do it we have the stollen documents of Aleksandar ....
    50% from the ATM machines here doesn't have cameras - we used such ATMs
    (my partner is working in bank) and it is impossible someone to see our
    faces Smile
    No matter the faces ,the goverment doesn't have system to catch us via
    the faces Smile It's really funny and it isn't USA, be sure Razz Third
    world rulzzz!!!!!!
    In short : we have not given our names anywhere ,noone have seen our
    faces , we didn't operate from homes (we are going to buy homes later -
    we don't have such now ) We are living in hotels right now.
    GCIDealing LTD - isn't real company ofcourse!
    We paid for the hosting and the other things via e-gold.
    We can't process refunds or payouts.
    I wish you good luck with your next programs and before investing
    please make your own DD and do it good or you can easily loose.

    Regards,
    Sasho - my name isn't Sasho Smile my name is Great Razz
    gcisurf manager"
    Here is another message:
    "FROM THE INVEX GROUP
    Dear Invex Ltd. Players,

    This is a long message and will be the last news you will hear from us... until we open our next HYIP
    We want, kindly, recommend you stop losing your time by looking after us. Anyway, for the cyber detectives, here is how we worked.

    1- The basis is having 100% false ID documents. For $200 you get a really nice looking pack of documents, even nicer than legal ones
    2- We rented a nice apartment with fast internet in a nice city near the sea, with false documents. We then bought a new desktop computer and a new laptop, installed some fresh programs.
    3- We opened a bank account with false documents, put some cash on the account, and got a nice true debit card.
    4- We opened e-gold accounts and funded them from the bank account above.
    5- A bit later we opened e-bullion accounts, funded by... you, ###### who "invested"

    OK? Now we have e-gold, internet, a place to sleep, eat etc, all without possibility to track us. A major question was "Must we open a real company". We decided that NO, as people are so stupid that they believe all what they read. And you know what? It is true Invex Ltd. and Lomax Group Corp. are pure fantasy
    Okay, let's go to work now!

    1- Opening a domain name and booking a server at the katzglobal scammers' best place, paying with e-gold.
    2- Later, booking a dedicated server and paying with... the debit card coming from the bank account above
    3- Renting Prolexic, and paying them by bank transfers from.... an e-gold exchanger The gold came from YOU ###### who "invested" !

    To specialists who want to track us by the IP addresses, we kindly recommend you to use Google and look at JAP, Freenet, I2P, TORR, etc.
    You will understand that our IP come from anywhere in the world, beeing chained between servers who cannot track them.
    And even if so, the last IP address, the place where we lived, was this nice appartment near the sea, that we left some weeks ago Oh, the computers were given to a charity, after the hard disks were physically deleted

    Other pros say "Let's track the money"! Great idea, but don't forget that even the ******* muslim terrorists cannot be tracked by the special services
    How did we withdraw all your nice donations? That's easy, thanks to mygcard who supplied us hundreds of anonymous debit cards that our friedns and us used in various countries! Alain Vignard from mygcard received $20.000 cash in hands for helping us to find the ATM with no "$800/day limits", and telling us how to use the cards at the best. Well, Alain tried to scam us later, but that is another story
    We also used bank transfers from the best exchangers, who have no problem at all sending $100,000 or $200,000 every 3 days to bank accounts in Panama, the BVI, etc Nice offshore places outside the EU and the US Track the money there, dear friends!
    Oh, about exchangers, we worked with one of them from Australia, and where a bit afraid at the beginning, as he wrote on his website that he "verifies ALL data" from his clients. LOL ! His fee is 2%, we kindly offered him 2% more "to preserve our privacy" Look at our dialogue by email:

    - HIM: 2% more is a good offer, but is your gold clean? We don't want to work with scammers.
    - US: Of course, what are you thinking? We are honest businessmen and just want to keep a low profile.
    - HIM: OK, i can see you are not scammers, just send me the gold and 4% fee instead of the regular 2%.

    Thank you mister G. ))
    As I am in a very good mood, I will also explain you something: Most of the biggest HYIP are run by us, a professional team. And when other scammers try to enter our market, BING! If they are interesting people we try to buy them, if not DDOS attacks make them shutdown To be sure our rating is the best one, we also pay the admins of a few monitoring programs, including the biggest and "most reliable" (LOOOOL) one!
    Our business is to make money. We use 20% of the money we get to help poor and disabled people around each of us, 20% other is given to some "political" associations that fight against ISLAM (Hey guys from the Emirates, Bahrein, Kuwait, etc etc, did you read this? THANK YOU , and the balance is for us.
    We have currently a dozen of HYIP running, are going to close some of them, and of course to open new ones! We are working like this since a few years, and all is working fine!

    But you know, it IS possible to make profit from HYIP: Just do it QUICKLY! Look: teamaaronshara@bellsouth.net made $6,580 profit with us, including the commissions they got by sending YOU ######, to Invex. These people are really scumbags: They are making profit by making you lose!
    As a clever guy told in some forum, "there were no guarantees, so no need to cry". YEP! We NEVER gave any guarantee to ANYBODY (unless Titanium plans, and you should notice that THESE guys do NOT cry on your forum, try to guess why...!), we even recommended those who ask for guarantees to go to their local bank They didn't? THEIR CHOICE!
    When reading your forum and others, we really laugh! So, most of you were already scammed by other HYIP? By our HYIP maybe Anyway, it seems that you don't understand what a teenager is able to understand! So, you continue to "invest" here and there, and that is good... FOR US! For you, I am not sure When I see a GREAT SPECIALIST, the "Andrewunknown", proudly saying that he lost $40,000 into Invex but that he will recover from other HYIP, WE ARE LAUGHING, FALLING FROM OUR CHAIRS )))) Moreover in his list of "no ponzi", LOL, some of them are from us ))))"
    Source: http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index...=15704&st=4350

    There they are, making fun of their own members.. yet people will just move on to the next autosurf like herded sheep.

    3) ClixSurf Extremely hyped.
    4) PayDaily Surf
    5) Gramssurf.


    My question is.. when will people ever learn? The obvious answer, to me, is not through trial and error. Clearly, some people get jerked around by autosurf scams over and over and keep investing money into more. And, as long as cheerleaders keep trying to reassure posters on message boards and chat rooms, it will be a hard task to complete.

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    thats real funny coz stupid members will be like 'oh they were scammers... but not any other autosurf owners like this one hes real honest' then move on to the next one then get scammed again and again. freakin losers

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    I believe it is Ponzi Nemesis spamming, again.

    What atrocious grammar!

    Amazing how some uneducated people would actually think these are official, don't you think?

    "These" of you???????????

    Of course, there are some right here on this forum who thinks this is proper grammar.

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    Not sure if silverbelles is also PN, good chance it could be.
    However: Ponzi Nemesis is banned: http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=13368
    But it seems the fly is back.
    Ponzi_Nemesis: http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=17463

    Ponzi_Nemesis did not post on any threads, but was earlier actively Private Messaging.

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    Quote Originally Posted by lovelyrita
    I believe it is Ponzi Nemesis spamming, again.

    What atrocious grammar!

    Amazing how some uneducated people would actually think these are official, don't you think?

    "These" of you???????????

    Of course, there are some right here on this forum who thinks this is proper grammar.
    The supposed admin behind GCISurf is the one who said "These of you." And if it wasn't him, the admin of GCISurf hasn't come forward. AND the program is closed.

    And how is this message spam? Also, how do you figure it's Ponzi Nemesis? Some people and their accusations that posters are the same people just because they dont like autosurfs (that would be me, now wait for ozilinx to come in here and spew his usual psychotic nonsense) is ridiculous. How do we know youre not any other posters here?

    "Lovely Rita" is kinda similar to "Little Renee.." :confused:

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    By the way.. did anyone actually have anything to say about the fact that these autosurfs are closing down or just more accusations because you know they're all scams now?

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    So the autosurf owners ran off then rubbed it in their own members faces saying theyll never be able to find them? Sure glad I never joined this piece of **** program.
    Make sure to :D LAUGH :D and smile :) .

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    Well, i warned people already about CGIsurf ( click here for the thread ), but as always happens, some genius autosurf supporter was just calling me dumb...
    Anyway, autosurf programs are going to have a major stroke by March, April 2006 and you will see what i mean soon; the way they operate is certainly illegal under many many point of views and two of the major players are actually under the eye of several police investigations in at least 4 countries.
    The Fair Trade Authority is going to launch a public campaign of information about autosurf programs with the declared intent of alerting consumers about the risk of joining an autosurf program and i will keep you up to date, here, about it.
    In the meantime i want to invite all of you to vote this poll about autosurf programs TOS at the Fair Trade Authority scam prevention forum as the results, together with other investigation material will be featured on an autoproduced set of spots on several media. If you believe that autosurf programs the way they are today should not be allowed, please, come out and take action, supporting our campaign.

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    Quote Originally Posted by FairTradeAuthority
    Well, i warned people already about CGIsurf ( click here for the thread ), but as always happens, some genius autosurf supporter was just calling me dumb...
    Anyway, autosurf programs are going to have a major stroke by March, April 2006 and you will see what i mean soon; the way they operate is certainly illegal under many many point of views and two of the major players are actually under the eye of several police investigations in at least 4 countries.
    The Fair Trade Authority is going to launch a public campaign of information about autosurf programs with the declared intent of alerting consumers about the risk of joining an autosurf program and i will keep you up to date, here, about it.
    In the meantime i want to invite all of you to vote this poll about autosurf programs TOS at the Fair Trade Authority scam prevention forum as the results, together with other investigation material will be featured on an autoproduced set of spots on several media. If you believe that autosurf programs the way they are today should not be allowed, please, come out and take action, supporting our campaign.
    I will release information on scam consumer sites whose only interest is to make a buck out of the scammed, and to hold sites to ransom if they don't sign up for their certification. I find it particularly abhorant that someone pretends to be a legal adviser when they can hardly write their own name and certainly have no legal training. Do you know it is against the law in Great Britain to give legal advice if you don't have the necessary qualifications? You would be found guilty of multiple counts. All the evidence necessary is on this board.

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    OZILINX, you are really a curious specimen. And since you keep blatering and not answering specific questions about autosurf programs, i will just start ignoring you.

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    That is the best thing to do FTA. He or she is for some reason so paranoid about people asking questions.. almost like he owns an autosurf or something.... it is just of no use to talk to him. Better luck talking to a child. By the way his autosurf never emailed me back about where their income sources come from. This also speaks volumes because I have thousands to invest. That could have helped their program last maybe another whole two days. lol
    Make sure to :D LAUGH :D and smile :) .

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    Quote Originally Posted by silverbelles
    1. GCISurf. The admin sent out this nasty threatening message to members. Some also say this is the same message from ExtrixSurf (#2 on the list). And these people were also NetIBA certified, which just goes to show it means nothing:


    Here is another message:


    Source: http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index...=15704&st=4350

    There they are, making fun of their own members.. yet people will just move on to the next autosurf like herded sheep.

    3) ClixSurf Extremely hyped.
    4) PayDaily Surf
    5) Gramssurf.
    He He He !!! LOL LOL LOL This is HILARIOUS!!! I am cracking myself. He He He! Autosurfs SUCK!! LOL LOL LOL!!! He He HA HA HA Pow wow wow ha ha ha!
    I have seen on other forums similar complaints. Pow wow wow HA HA HA!! Ouch my stomach... He he he he!! When will people learn?? Ha ha ha !!!

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    Quote Originally Posted by FairTradeAuthority
    Well, i warned people already about CGIsurf ( click here for the thread ), but as always happens, some genius autosurf supporter was just calling me dumb...
    Anyway, autosurf programs are going to have a major stroke by March, April 2006 and you will see what i mean soon; the way they operate is certainly illegal under many many point of views and two of the major players are actually under the eye of several police investigations in at least 4 countries.
    The Fair Trade Authority is going to launch a public campaign of information about autosurf programs with the declared intent of alerting consumers about the risk of joining an autosurf program and i will keep you up to date, here, about it.
    In the meantime i want to invite all of you to vote this poll about autosurf programs TOS at the Fair Trade Authority scam prevention forum as the results, together with other investigation material will be featured on an autoproduced set of spots on several media. If you believe that autosurf programs the way they are today should not be allowed, please, come out and take action, supporting our campaign.
    He he he. A business or website endorsed by this FTA means nothing. No authority. No legal standing. And the same for a business NOT endorsed by this FTA. Means nothing. No legal standing. No authority. Nothing. Like Fresca. Tastes like nothing because nothing tastes like Fresca.
    He he he he!!!

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    He He He !!! LOL LOL LOL This is HILARIOUS!!! I am cracking myself. He He He! Autosurfs SUCK!! LOL LOL LOL!!! He He HA HA HA Pow wow wow ha ha ha!
    All accept for the "autosurf sucks" part, I say the EXACT same thing every 12 days I receive my hefty 12DP payment via stormpay. I love my big bi-weekly chuckle at all you negative skeptics.

    Not all autosurfs have so little integrity. When I was researching an autosurf to join, I had never even heard of GCI. That would have been a good sign already that they weren't worth investing with IF I had run into them down the road.

    It's really too bad that some of these autosurfs end with such betrayal. Some of them really are a bunch of crooks.
    "Life is a scam. Get over your ignorance."

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    I'm a skeptic not because I'm jealous of other peoples earnings, actually I make more than I've ever seen any autosurf member brag about. I am though naturally skeptical when I first saw the defense tactics some people used. And all I can say, is that I still am but more.
    Make sure to :D LAUGH :D and smile :) .

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    Re: This Month's Closed Autosurfs: Will People Ever Learn?

    I wonder where some certain posters went, oh well.
    Make sure to :D LAUGH :D and smile :) .

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