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    Illegal Immigrants

    Comparisons between Trump and Obama on immigration usually focus on deportations of unauthorized immigrants living in the US. Trump has been rapidly expanding enforcement, but the numbers are still comparable to Obama’s first term. (o'bama holds the record for deporting more immigrants than any president, with more than 2 million deportations over eight years — though he scaled back enforcement in the last two years of his administration.)

    But the effects of the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” policy for prosecuting illegal entry this spring — the separation of families as a matter of standard government practice for about six weeks, and now (thanks to Trump’s executive order) a coming court fight over the indefinite detention of families seeking asylum — are reminiscent, for those of us who’ve been following immigration for a while, of what the Obama administration did in 2014.

    The comparison to o'bama’s policies is especially relevant now that the Trump administration is seeking to keep families in immigration detention for weeks or months. The reason that Trump can’t do that under a current judicial order is that the courts stepped in to stop Obama from doing it.
    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/21/174884...aration-border
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
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    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

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    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Yep, in fact you pic is from ~2014.

    However, let's look at your link;
    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/21/174884...aration-border;
    The best way to describe Donald Trump’s current policy toward families crossing the US-Mexico border is this: He just went from being much harsher than Barack Obama to trying to get the courts to let him be as harsh as Obama was.

    The executive order Trump signed yesterday opens the door to him using a tactic Obama used in 2014: the wide-scale detention of immigrant families for as long as it took to complete their immigration cases and deport them.

    Comparisons between Trump and Obama on immigration usually focus on deportations of unauthorized immigrants living in the US. Trump has been rapidly expanding enforcement, but the numbers are still comparable to Obama’s first term. (Obama holds the record for deporting more immigrants than any president, with more than 2 million deportations over eight years — though he scaled back enforcement in the last two years of his administration.)

    But the effects of the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” policy for prosecuting illegal entry this spring — the separation of families as a matter of standard government practice for about six weeks, and now (thanks to Trump’s executive order) a coming court fight over the indefinite detention of families seeking asylum — are reminiscent, for those of us who’ve been following immigration for a while, of what the Obama administration did in 2014.
    I'll highlight that first paragraph again for you;
    The best way to describe Donald Trump’s current policy toward families crossing the US-Mexico border is this: He just went from being much harsher than Barack Obama to trying to get the courts to let him be as harsh as Obama was.
    Yea, Donald Trump wants to do what Barack Obama did.

    Why?
    Well, I'd guess because what Donald Trump is doing is unexpectedly harsh to many Americans. While what Barack Obama did, was somewhat acceptable.

    But, it is of interest that you have pointed out that Barack Obama had done more about the illegal immigrant problem then Donald Trump has so far.
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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    It doesn't matter. It could be the identical policy between the two administrations and the liberals would be up in arms over Trump and ignoring o'bama.

    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
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    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    It doesn't matter. It could be the identical policy between the two administrations and the liberals would be up in arms over Trump and ignoring o'bama.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    It doesn't matter. It could be the identical policy between the two administrations and the liberals {conseratives} would be up in arms over Trump {Obama} and ignoring o'bama {Trump}.
    Umm it's spelled Obama. Let me know when you actually learn to spell his name correctly.

    Wow, you have figured it out.
    The political party doesn't actually matter.

    So, what exactly is the problem?
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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Now you're posting strawman arguments?

    Last edited by Joecool44; 07-14-2018 at 01:10 AM.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Now you're posting strawman arguments?

    No, I am agreeing with you.

    Wow, you are a stupid f-uck aren't you?
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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by nomaxim View Post
    No, I am agreeing with you.

    Wow, I'm a stupid f-uck
    If you say so.





    If you break forum rules, I can too.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by nomaxim View Post
    No, I am agreeing with you.

    Wow, you are a stupid f-uck aren't you?
    Yea, right.
    Normally, you post interesting stuff. Maybe you should lay off the booze when you post in the evening. It shows. Seriously. I'm not the only one who's noticed.

    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Normally, you post interesting stuff. Maybe you should lay off the booze when you post in the evening. It shows. Seriously. I'm not the only one who's noticed.

    Yea, right.

    Like anyone is even reading this forum anymore.

    Here's a good vid for you.



    Maybe your buddy Donald should watch that.

    Donald is a 'pussy'.

    He is not a real Republican, he is a RINO.
    Last edited by nomaxim; 07-14-2018 at 01:53 AM.
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    Re: Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by nomaxim View Post
    Yea, right.

    Like anyone is even reading this forum anymore.

    Maybe your buddy Donald should watch that.

    Donald is a 'pussy'.

    He is not a real Republican, he is a RINO.
    Apparently you still read this forum and care enough to post.

    Thanks for proving my point.

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    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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