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    Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Going off the latest Pew poll here, https://twitter.com/pewresearch/stat...76706339647489

    the gender gap is highly negatively correlated with age. What are the underlying reasons for this?

    Net Democratic Lean

    Age Male Female Gender Gap
    18-34 -3 44 47
    35-49 -11 16 27
    50+ -5 3 8

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    For a 21-year-old woman, abortion tends to be a central issue. Young women are terrified of the notion that they might get pregnant at a point in their life where they're not ready/able to take care of a child. However, as women move towards middle age, this ceases to be a major concern. While they may still favor legal abortion, it ceases to become a central concern and becomes a peripheral one.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidan View Post
    For a 21-year-old woman, abortion tends to be a central issue. Young women are terrified of the notion that they might get pregnant at a point in their life where they're not ready/able to take care of a child. However, as women move towards middle age, this ceases to be a major concern. While they may still favor legal abortion, it ceases to become a central concern and becomes a peripheral one.
    It fairly dismissive to state that the primary reason for someone being pro-choice is just because they don't personally want a kid. It's also not supported by the data. The increase in pro-life stances as people get older is miniscule compared to the Dem/Rep divide. It's far more closely aligned with the decrease in religiosity among young people

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayden View Post
    It fairly dismissive to state that the primary reason for someone being pro-choice is just because they don't personally want a kid. It's also not supported by the data. The increase in pro-life stances as people get older is miniscule compared to the Dem/Rep divide. It's far more closely aligned with the decrease in religiosity among young people
    I'm not saying that people change from pro-choice to pro-life. I'm pointing out that the issue becomes much less important (at least on the pro-choice side) as women get older.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidan View Post
    I'm not saying that people change from pro-choice to pro-life. I'm pointing out that the issue becomes much less important (at least on the pro-choice side) as women get older.
    This isn't backed up by anything, though.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayden View Post
    This isn't backed up by anything, though.
    http://www.people-press.org/2016/07/...lection/4_3-4/
    The top issues are the ones that occupy people's attention as they age.
    The bottom 4 issues? Abortion, the environment, treatment of racial/ethnic minorities, LGBT issues.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayden View Post
    This isn't backed up by anything, though.
    people-press.org/2016/07/07/4-top-voting-issues-in-2016-election/4_3-4/


    The top issues are the ones that occupy people's attention as they age.
    The bottom 4 issues? Abortion, the environment, treatment of racial/ethnic minorities, LGBT issues.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidan View Post
    people-press.org/2016/07/07/4-top-voting-issues-in-2016-election/4_3-4/


    The top issues are the ones that occupy people's attention as they age.
    The bottom 4 issues? Abortion, the environment, treatment of racial/ethnic minorities, LGBT issues.
    Importance of abortion at age 18-29: 46%
    Importance of abortion at age 50-64: 44%
    Oh yeah there's a huge difference there. Not to mention it even goes up as people get to the age where kids are no longer a thing. You very clearly just proved your own argument wrong.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayden View Post
    Importance of abortion at age 18-29: 46%
    Importance of abortion at age 50-64: 44%
    Oh yeah there's a huge difference there. Not to mention it even goes up as people get to the age where kids are no longer a thing. You very clearly just proved your own argument wrong.
    What's important is the ranking of the issues. People rate virtually all issues more important as they age. The fact that abortion remains relatively constant while other issues take precedence over it is exactly what I claimed - and exactly what the data demonstrates.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Becoming a mother is a significant life change for most women and it causes them to re-assess many of their political positions. Feminism tends to be focused on the issues young women are concerned about - and often takes the 'wrong side' for the issues mothers are concerned about. Consider something like the issue of sexual assault on campus. For a young, single woman - especially a college age woman - this is an easy issue: she wants the scales tilted as far as possible her way. For a woman with sons, she's not too worried about herself - she's long past college age anyway - but she's absolutely terrified that her son will end up with his life destroyed by innuendo and accusations in response to a situation that would, from a mature perspective, amount largely to a childish error.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder View Post
    Becoming a mother is a significant life change for most women and it causes them to re-assess many of their political positions. Feminism tends to be focused on the issues young women are concerned about - and often takes the 'wrong side' for the issues mothers are concerned about. Consider something like the issue of sexual assault on campus. For a young, single woman - especially a college age woman - this is an easy issue: she wants the scales tilted as far as possible her way. For a woman with sons, she's not too worried about herself - she's long past college age anyway - but she's absolutely terrified that her son will end up with his life destroyed by innuendo and accusations in response to a situation that would, from a mature perspective, amount largely to a childish error.
    This is a pretty editorialized view of things that seems to parrot the common reddit talking point that being accused of sexual assault is a much bigger problem than assault itself.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zander. View Post
    This is a pretty editorialized view of things that seems to parrot the common reddit talking point that being accused of sexual assault is a much bigger problem than assault itself.
    It's not a talking point - false accusations are a far more serious problem than most violent crime. Being helpless for an evening is a far better fate than being rendered helpless for a lifetime due to innuendo and accusations you can't rid yourself of.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder View Post
    It's not a talking point - false accusations are a far more serious problem than most violent crime. Being helpless for an evening is a far better fate than being rendered helpless for a lifetime due to innuendo and accusations you can't rid yourself of.
    I'm not even sure how to address this disgusting line of thinking. You think that being falsely accused is worse than being raped.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zander. View Post
    I'm not even sure how to address this disgusting line of thinking. You think that being falsely accused is worse than being raped.
    Because it is? As I pointed out, one is being harmed for an evening while the other is effectively being raped for the rest of your life.
    For the rest, you need to do your research. Refusing to accept reality is neither an argument nor a counter-argument.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

    I'd be interested to see any data of mothers worried about their sons in the way you are describing to any significant degree.

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    Re: Why is the gender gap so much larger with younger age groups?

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    It's not a talking point - false accusations are a far more serious problem than most violent crime. Being helpless for an evening is a far better fate than being rendered helpless for a lifetime due to innuendo and accusations you can't rid yourself of.
    I doubt he has much data for anything he says.

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