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    Are liberals out of touch?



    When will anti-Trump rant end? Average working people voted for Trump because of concern for jobs, family, and country. Democrats used to be concerned about the same things. Now they want socialism: free lunch, free houses, a country club, and everything rich people have. They want to take away incentives for entrepreneurs to reduce the population to the least common denominator. What would it be like? It would be a nation of common houses, common incomes, common neighborhoods, and, most of all, no rich people, just a lot of commonness.

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    Isn't it rich liberals advocating for low income people to be equal and have the same material possessions as those who aren't poor? The rich ones would stay rich I guarantee you. You may end up having the poor not doing without the essentials but it wouldn't be that they have the same things and advantages as the rich. The rich here in America will always be more powerful and have more advantages than those with less money.

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    Isn't it rich liberals advocating for low income people to be equal and have the same material possessions as those who aren't poor? The rich ones would stay rich I guarantee you. You may end up having the poor not doing without the essentials but it wouldn't be that they have the same things and advantages as the rich. The rich here in America will always be more powerful and have more advantages than those with less money.
    A lot of liberal rhetoric is about those Wall Street people and how much wealth they have, so taxes should pay for what is needed. It goes back to more taxes on the rich. However, if you look at tax distribution 95% of taxes are paid by the top 5% of income earners. So, already the rich pay most of the taxes. What democrats really want is what wealthy people have, beautiful estates, etc. for the benefit of all. If rich people lived in common houses, Democrats may be happy. However, it is not only housing, it is monthly income, etc. What it amounts to is a crazy system of redistribution which would bring down capitalism. Now matter how you spin it, there is no way of correcting income inequality, it is part of human society. A good analogy is sports. If you let ten people run a hundred yard dash, there will always be winners and losers. Leveling the playing field contradicts human nature.

    It relates to my argument against communism. In the real world there is no such thing as equality, so why propose a society based on a false premise.
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    cnance the EXAGGERATOR to make a DRAMATIC point!? i read top 20% pay 84% of taxes!!

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    Everyone beware! Chesty has a contract to take down the forum. He is a dangerous man.

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    When will anti-Trump rant end? Average working people voted for Trump because of concern for jobs, family, and country. Democrats used to be concerned about the same things. Now they want socialism: free lunch, free houses, a country club, and everything rich people have. They want to take away incentives for entrepreneurs to reduce the population to the least common denominator. What would it be like? It would be a nation of common houses, common incomes, common neighborhoods, and, most of all, no rich people, just a lot of commonness.
    your always MIXING ideologies you lump socialism and communism together like a drunk on a rant!? you harp about the SAME UNPROVEN points over and over like a broken RECORD!! you use the word liberal to apply to anything you find disagrees with your own ideals!!
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    your always MIXING ideologies you lump socialism and communism together like a drunk on a rant!? you harp about the SAME UNPROVEN points over and over like a broken RECORD!! you use the word liberal to apply to anything you find disagrees with your own ideals!!
    Read Marx, he stated socialism precedes communism. You need to educate yourself about Marx. I have quoted Marx on the forum, they are quotes from his 1848 Communist Manifesto. So, if you haven't read Marx, don't say I don't know what I say. I will continue to dwell on the consequences of adopting Marx as a world view, it is out there in the "real world." Examples are Cuba, fallen USSR (1989), Venezuela, and recently, Obama's attempt to bring about socialism in the US. Yes, there are lot of examples of failed communistic governments. It is not a broken record, it is a broken ideology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Read Marx, he stated socialism precedes communism. You need to educate yourself about Marx. I have quoted Marx on the forum, they are quotes from his 1848 Communist Manifesto. So, if you haven't read Marx, don't say I don't know what I say. I will continue to dwell on the consequences of adopting Marx as a world view, it is out there in the "real world." Examples are Cuba, fallen USSR (1989), Venezuela, and recently, Obama's attempt to bring about socialism in the US. Yes, there are lot of examples of failed communistic governments. It is not a broken record, it is a broken ideology!
    I see one of your ridiculous threads got booted out for being ridiculous. That was a kick in the bollox for you haha. Perhaps its a political move ta da.

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    Read Marx, he stated socialism precedes communism. You need to educate yourself about Marx. I have quoted Marx on the forum, they are quotes from his 1848 Communist Manifesto. So, if you haven't read Marx, don't say I don't know what I say. I will continue to dwell on the consequences of adopting Marx as a world view, it is out there in the "real world." Examples are Cuba, fallen USSR (1989), Venezuela, and recently, Obama's attempt to bring about socialism in the US. Yes, there are lot of examples of failed communistic governments. It is not a broken record, it is a broken ideology!

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    it's NOT broken it just hasn't gained enough followers CUZ the PROPAGANDISTS keep the lies coming as we see you DOING!! you dont even realize you are a AYN RAND propagandist!! i gotta WONDER why the FREE world is OUT to get VENEZUELA!! they sure got better GAS PRICES than we do!!

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    so if a lib is out of touch GO TOUCH A LIB as your good deed for today!! and is tRUMP a COMMUNIST!? his wife is!? he wants to MUZZLE the PRESS!? and tell us why the muslim religion s the fastest growing religion in the world!?
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    Liberals are out of touch.

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    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
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    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    so if a lib is out of touch GO TOUCH A LIB as your good deed for today!! andis tRUMP a COMMUNIST!? his wife is!? he wants to MUZZLE the PRESS!? and tell us why the muslim religion s the fastest growing religion in the world!?
    I didn't know she was a communist. Are you sure about it? Where is the evidence? I don't think Trump wants to muzzle the press, he just doesn't like fake or phony news. I agree, the media is biased. Everyday I switch around to different news outlets and almost always get Anti-Trump stories on certain stations such as CNBC. The is no question about it, most media outlets are biased against Trump.

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    most new outlets QUESTION his ERRATIC and potentially CRIMINAL and obnoxious behavior did i forget to mention OUTRiGHT LYiNG on a scale never before experienced with a president!? those are FACTS not FAKE!! but of course ALL dictators behave that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    so if a lib is out of touch GO TOUCH A LIB as your good deed for today!! and is tRUMP a COMMUNIST!? his wife is!? he wants to MUZZLE the PRESS!? and tell us why the muslim religion s the fastest growing religion in the world!?
    The Muslim religion dominates third world countries and they have lots and lots of kids. Many of them are easily manipulated. I see Muslim women and children walk by my home every day with all of their clothing covering their heads and bodies, I think it's tragic for a woman to feel so fearful of being a woman, sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    The Muslim religion dominates third world countries and they have lots and lots of kids. Many of them are easily manipulated. I see Muslim women and children walk by my home every day with all of their clothing covering their heads and bodies, I think it's tragic for a woman to feel so fearful of being a woman, sad.
    Dont be fooled by the "poor" muslim women. They're worse than the men.

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