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    Proud Socialists March at Left-Wing Protest in DC

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    Are Marxists on the march to take over Washington?
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    gimme a BREAK oct 2010!?
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    Communists are persistent, soon they will have US Democratic party leadership. As Marx proposed, first it is socialism, then, Communism, a classless society. The big problem for Marxists is they, like Marx, don't understand human nature or the need for social recognition for competency leading to a stratified society. It all began when Marx wrote about stratified societies being evil. Marx got it wrong! There never has been, and there will never be, a society which is not stratified. For the most part, leveling of social differences is harmful for individuals and groups, it is an unnatural condition for society. Forcing equality on a society leads to more death and destruction as Communist leaders impose equalitarian rules and regulations to achieve a classless society.

    Read the history of communist revolutions and you find extreme disruptions and misery in the wake of the new social order. Then, after the "equalitarian movement" fails, we find another revolution to restore society to a more natural social order based on democratic principles. Then, after capitalism is reinstated, we find Marxists returning to begin another round of communism to eliminate social differences. There it goes, history doesn't teach lessons, it just repeats the same old mistakes. ha. ha.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolu...ist_Party,_USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    UNFUNDED socialism dont work!! chavez refused to change his policies to match the economic realities of loss of INCOME!! he also made BAD decisions regarding foreign investments!! he was a lousy BOOK KEEPER!? but his POPULAR APPEAL kept him in power!! the MEMORIES of the GOOD TIMES kept the people FAITHFUL!? but his failures eventually produced a RESISTANCE!! and maduro doesn't seem a lot smarter!! reminds me of tRUMP!! no matter how bad he FAILS, he stlll is POPULAR!!
    When you are a socialist or communist dictator, there is no possibility for there to be democratic opposition. How can you oppose an incompetent leader when that leader controls the military? One great strength of democracy is one man cannot control the nation without political opposition.
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    you seem confused you mix different points about marx/communism!! was russia ever SOCIALIST!? socialism IS a choice thru democracy!? you keep referring to communism as a dictatorship!? socialism SHOULD be NATURALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY!! capitalism is DEATH to the environment and mankind without strict regulation!! but like i said neither religious ideals or marx's ideals have much of a chance of success given all the NATURAL tendencies of uneducated mankind!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    you seem confused you mix different points about marx/communism!! was russia ever SOCIALIST!? socialism IS a choice thru democracy!? you keep referring to communism as a dictatorship!? socialism SHOULD be NATURALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY!! capitalism is DEATH to the environment and mankind without strict regulation!! but like i said neither religious ideals or marx's ideals have much of a chance of success given all the NATURAL tendencies of uneducated mankind!?
    You need to read Marx. He came up with the idea for socialism preceding communism. For Marx, it was the evolution of social class conflicts whereby capitalist are eliminated in the final class conflict struggle. As for Russia, it began in 1917 with the Bolshevik Revolution. Lenin and Stalin instituted Communism at the expense of several million people, those who didn't cooperate with the "new communist order." In fact, there have been no purely communist nations, it is impossible because in reality social differences cannot be eliminated. So, what we have are a lot of socialist nations striving to become communistic.

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    russia is NOT socialist!? dictatorships are NOT communist/marxist!? and like i keep saying.........equality as you put it is a religious and marxist ideal!? only in the sense of to each according to need from each according to ability!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    russia is NOT socialist!? dictatorships are NOT communist/marxist!? and like i keep saying.........equality as you put it is a religious and marxist ideal!? only in the sense of to each according to need from each according to ability!?
    The USSR stands for United Soviet Socialist Republic. Now, the nation is Russia, but, after the 1917 Bolshevik rebellion until 1989, when the USSR collapsed, Russia was a communist nation, or tried to be. In Russia, communism failed. Read history!

    As for you comment, "dictatorships are NOT communist/marxist!?" it is completely false. In almost all cases in world history, communist or socialist societies are controlled by DICTATORS. It is the way of communism. Because people aren't inclined toward communism, a dictator is required to keep people in line. Post an historical based argument to the contrary.
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    so you are AFRAID tha COMMUNISM can and will RULE the WORLD!? and by the way COMMUNISM is NO PROMOTER of the WELFARE STATE!! it's the OWNERSHIP of production BY the PRODUCERS!! i am NOT against CAPITALISM im against the ABUSES and DESTRUCTIVE activities it ALLOWS when not MODERATED!! YOUR capitalism is a PERFECT FIT for the the WORST of HUMAN nature!! GREED and AMBITION and SELFISHNESS!!
    It is best to respond to historical records of communist brutality in order to establish a good argument for communism. It is not what they say, it is what they do! Stalin might go down in history as the world's most brutal dictator. He brutally murdered millions of people for the cause of COMMUNISM. It is all there on the historical record! The main point of my argument, which you don't understand, is communism as devised by Marx is a failure because it is antithetical to human nature. I have posted the argument with references to Marx. Stop ignoring it. Why should I keep repeating it? The communist experiment is almost over, we have a lot of historical information. Why do you ignore facts of history?

    https://www.historyandheadlines.com/...-worse-hitler/

    https://www.toptenz.net/10-brutal-re...viet-union.php

    https://news.stanford.edu/2010/09/23...nocide-092310/
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    seems to ME all the SO CALLED communist countries were/are DICTATORSHIPS!? which is WHY i dont want THIS country to become a DICTATORSHIP!! tRUMP must GO!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    seems to ME all the SO CALLED communist countries were/are DICTATORSHIPS!? whch s WHY i dont want THIS country to become a DICTATORSHIP!! tRUMP must GO!!
    Again, you are talking from prejudice. Where is the evidence for Trump becoming a dictator?

    For any discussion about communism, the brutal record of Russian dictators must be considered. It is the most outrageous record of the failure of communism in the history of the world!

    It is best to respond to historical records of communist brutality in order to establish a good argument for communism. It is not what they say, it is what they do! Stalin might go down in history as the world's most brutal dictator. He brutally murdered millions of people for the cause of COMMUNISM. It is all there on the historical record!

    https://www.historyandheadlines.com/...-worse-hitler/

    https://www.toptenz.net/10-brutal-re...viet-union.php

    https://news.stanford.edu/2010/09/23...nocide-092310/
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    communism AS PRACTICED by DICTATORS can lead to BRUTALITY!! KINDA REMINDS 1 OF police brutality DONT IT!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    communism AS PRACTICED by DICTATORS can lead to BRUTALITY!! KINDA REMINDS 1 OF police brutality DONT IT!?

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    Show how any "capitalist nation" can compare to the brutality of the USSR, a communist nation.

    It is best to respond to historical records of communist brutality in order to establish a good argument for communism. It is not what they say, it is what they do! Stalin might go down in history as the world's most brutal dictator. He brutally murdered millions of people for the cause of COMMUNISM. It is all there on the historical record!

    https://www.historyandheadlines.com/...-worse-hitler/

    https://www.toptenz.net/10-brutal-re...viet-union.php

    https://news.stanford.edu/2010/09/23...nocide-092310/

    In particular, we find a horrendous record of mass killings under communist governments.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_k...munist_regimes

    Where is the argument, based on history, for communism?
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    tRUMP's BRUTALITY is more subtle right now!! all he has to do is tweak gov ASSISTANCE and millions will die over time!! with him and the republicans it will be slow but effective!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    tRUMP's BRUTALITY is more subtle right now!! all he has to do is tweak gov ASSISTANCE and millions will die over time!! with him and the republicans it will be slow but effective!!
    How ridiculous. You have a wild and weird imagination!

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    tRUMP'S policies have already KILLED and harmed CHILDREN!!
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