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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    next thing you'll CLAM is that the USA is NOT financially ATTACKING the COMMUNIST countrys TOO!? the USA has a TRACK RECORD of third world PRIVATE EXPLOITATION!! and its all about your socialism VS authoritarian capitalism!!
    Go ahead, keep making it up, it shows how creative you are when it comes to ideas. ha. ha.

    Oh, you made another, one of many, false statements. You said, "the USA has a TRACK RECORD of third world PRIVATE EXPLOITATION!!" Present evidence for your assertion.
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    yes MASTER!! here for your GIGGLING pleasure......
    the TRUMP FAMILY comes to mind...........

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...rich-countries


    https://www.haaretz.com/rich-nations...orld-1.5333127
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    yes MASTER!! here for your GIGGLING pleasure......
    the TRUMP FAMILY comes to mind...........

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...rich-countries


    https://www.haaretz.com/rich-nations...orld-1.5333127
    Again, you are shooting in the dark, and you don't know what your target is. How pathetic. Those articles say nothing about Venezuela.

    I am not surprise, liberals or Communists never see daylight. They spend most of their time in the dark shooting at anything. The problem for liberals or Communists is they run out of suckers. Capitalists keep offering them jobs, or job opportunities, but they are too lazy. Socialist Marxists tell Capitalists to work hard, they need their money. Capitalists are too smart, they say move to Cuba or any socialist nation to beg. Then, when they do and no one gives them anything, they blame Capitalists for not giving Socialists or "Commies" enough money to give them. What a revolting development. Commies must be really stupid!
    lol
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    i said capitalism in the DEVELOPED COUNTRIES EXPLOITS third world countries!? i have NO BEEF with HONEST CAPITALISM!! Venezuela was TOO generous in its OIL BOOM TIMES providing SUBSIDIES that overextended DEBT when oil revenues declined!! and it is TOO dependent on oil as it's INCOME!! and it's supposed democratic SOCIALISM was REALLY a CORRUPT DICTATORSHIP by a POPULAR but INCOMPETENT revolutionary!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    i said capitalism in the DEVELOPED COUNTRIES EXPLOITS third world countries!? i have NO BEEF with HONEST CAPITALISM!! Venezuela was TOO generous in its OIL BOOM TIMES providing SUBSIDIES that overextended DEBT when oil revenues declined!! and it is TOO dependent on oil as it's INCOME!! and it's supposed democratic SOCIALISM was REALLY a CORRUPT DICTATORSHIP by a POPULAR but INCOMPETENT revolutionary!?
    You got it wrong about Venezuela. It isn't the oil business that is destroyed the nation, it is corrupt dictators and socialism, one of the most inefficient forms of government in the history of the world.

    There is no evidence for your exploitation claims. In truth, the US after WW II contributed more to the recovery of war torn nations than any nation in history. The consequence where that Communism didn't take over the world. Perhaps, if lexx had been leading the Communists, it may have happened. lol

    http://www.skwirk.com/p-c_s-56_u-490...945-background

    There are several methods, theoretical and practical, which must be addressed for there to be a comprehensive analysis of Marxism. Much of my criticism of Marx is based on a careful analysis of his statements, and a direct application of those statements to actual situations and circumstances of world history, or relavancy thereof.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_Marxism
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    you must be DEAF!! i said an incompetent POPULIST DICTATOR bent on subsidies to keep his CONTROL coupled with dramatic loss of income from oil has caused Venezuela's financial decline!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    you must be DEAF!! i said an incompetent POPULIST DICTATOR bent on subsidies to keep his CONTROL coupled with dramatic loss of income from oil has caused Venezuela's financial decline!!
    Apparently, you changed the subject to defend socialism. There is no evidence for the present dictator of Venezuela being any less or more incompetent than most of them, even for Venezuela. The issue is "socialism." If you want, let's discuss Cuba or any other socialist or communist nation. Where is the evidence for them being equal to or superior to capitalist nations?

    If you are going to advocate for Marxism, present it in terms of how it works! You keep avoiding the subject by changing it. You cannot blame the failure of socialist Venezuela on the dictator, it is the whole society. Socialism doesn't work. I know, being a dedicated Marxist, you will not give up. You are a good example of the stubbornness of most Marxist, it is like a religion, a believe system without reason or empirical facts for its success both economically and politically. Oh, how about freedom. How much freedom is there in a socialist or communist nation? How much freedom is there in Venezuela?

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    UNFUNDED socialism dont work!! chavez refused to change his policies to match the economic realities of loss of INCOME!! he also made BAD decisions regarding foreign investments!! he was a lousy BOOK KEEPER!? but his POPULAR APPEAL kept him in power!! the MEMORIES of the GOOD TIMES kept the people FAITHFUL!? but his failures eventually produced a RESISTANCE!! and maduro doesn't seem a lot smarter!! reminds me of tRUMP!! no matter how bad he FAILS, he stlll is POPULAR!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    UNFUNDED socialism dont work!! chavez refused to change his policies to match the economic realities of loss of INCOME!! he also made BAD decisions regarding foreign investments!! he was a lousy BOOK KEEPER!? but his POPULAR APPEAL kept him in power!! the MEMORIES of the GOOD TIMES kept the people FAITHFUL!? but his failures eventually produced a RESISTANCE!! and maduro doesn't seem a lot smarter!! reminds me of tRUMP!! no matter how bad he FAILS, he stlll is POPULAR!!
    Contrary to what you might have been told in college, here are some facts about Communism.

    Despite the appearance of strength, the Soviet Union was a deeply-flawed state. Some authors discussed those weaknesses, but not one knew just how significant they were. There were in fact major economic, political and other weaknesses in the Soviet state. Economically, the Soviet system simply did not generate sufficient wealth to sustain its political, social and economic ideals as well as provide the needs of its people. This is striking because the Soviet Union included some of the richest agricultural land in the world and a vast depository of natural resources and a well-educated population. Why with all those assets was the Soviet Union economy so weak? There are a range of reasons. One factor is that the Soviet economy never recovered from the collectivization of agriculture. As a result, agriculture did not provide a surplus to help finance industrialization. Command economics is part of a reason. Trying to centrally manage the economy created many distortions as did the inefficient use of investment capital. The Soviet Union also stifled individual initiative which proved such a vital part of Western economies. Instead huge resources were devoted to an unproductive bureaucracy and equality unproductive military and security services. Without allowing consumer demand to play a role in the economy, the force of creative destruction never acted to eliminate wasteful and unproductive state enterprises.


    I post these "reality" pieces in order to deter heavy duty propaganda about the "merits of communism." If you want a full dose of Communist propaganda attend a liberal arts college. It is astounding how much college professors at US colleges have been brainwashed. Aren't they suppose to be "objective?"

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    i promote the IDEALS of religion and communism becuz they are so closely related!! i dont think EITHER 1 has much of chance of EVER EXISTING as common knowledge/practice!! some kind of MIXTURE may lead to IMPROVEMENTS in social interaction and human development!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    i promote the IDEALS of religion and communism becuz they are so closely related!! i dont think EITHER 1 has much of chance of EVER EXISTING as common knowledge/practice!! some kind of MIXTURE may lead to IMPROVEMENTS in social interaction and human development!?
    I propose there will not be much discussion on this thread because a large number of people have been brain washed. Why do I say that. Well, it is because, as a former professor, I know how much Marxism has penetrated higher education. Where is the proof, one might ask. Well, it is easy to find. Look at indexes to introductory textbooks in social science disciplines!

    What you find are many references to Karl Marx. He has become a hero for the majority of college professors. Then, check out college classes. How many lectures and favorable comments are made about Marx?

    Based on logic and understanding, it is easy to conclude Marx was an intellectual Idiot! He did not understand human nature. He proposed a theory based on equality, which is not found in nature or in human societies.

    I challenge anyone to refute my propositions.

    Where do you find equality in the social world? Oh, yes, you find it when government makes it happen. That is not natural, however, it is contrived. Marx got it wrong!

    Oh, I need to mention, Marx is important. In the real world we have many bloody examples of Marxism, which include Stalin's purges of millions of people, decades of Soviet dictatorship, numerous failed revolutions throughout the world where millions of people have been brutally massacred, imprisoned, and denied economic opportunities to thrive and prosper in free societies. It would have been better for the world if Marx had not been born!

    Oh, I forgot to mention China, a Marxist nation. Well, is China really communist? How does its economy function? Doesn't China prosper by manufacturing products for capitalists? What would happen to China if it really practiced communism? It would collapse! In practice, communism doesn't work, it is a destructive form of government.

    I am certain lexx would disagree, he favors taking down the capitalists. Like a good Communist, he favors a proletariat dictator rather than a democratic leader. One reason why lexx hates Trump is because he was once a successful businessman. Capitalists have created societies where successful companies hire workers, innovate with new technology, and have created the largest middle class in the history of the world. And yet, natural born critics like lexx find everything wrong with capitalism. I guess lexx wants a lot of charity, like a goodwill society. Since lexx can't bring down capitalism, he will continue to attack President Trump, a very successful capitalist.

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    for 1 thing CAPITALISM is NOT a form of GOVERNMENT!! apples and ORANGES you rant about!! and there is NO guarantee of QUALITY or EFFICIENCY with capitalism!! in FACT capitalism is NOW FAMOUS for CORRUPTION and CARELESSNESS!! you know how many will DIE BEFORE THEIR TIME becuz of the RUINED/GREEDY state of HEALTHCARE!?
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    Contrary to what you might have been told in college, here are some facts about Communism.

    Despite the appearance of strength, the Soviet Union was a deeply-flawed state. Some authors discussed those weaknesses, but not one knew just how significant they were. There were in fact major economic, political and other weaknesses in the Soviet state. Economically, the Soviet system simply did not generate sufficient wealth to sustain its political, social and economic ideals as well as provide the needs of its people. This is striking because the Soviet Union included some of the richest agricultural land in the world and a vast depository of natural resources and a well-educated population. Why with all those assets was the Soviet Union economy so weak? There are a range of reasons. One factor is that the Soviet economy never recovered from the collectivization of agriculture. As a result, agriculture did not provide a surplus to help finance industrialization. Command economics is part of a reason. Trying to centrally manage the economy created many distortions as did the inefficient use of investment capital. The Soviet Union also stifled individual initiative which proved such a vital part of Western economies. Instead huge resources were devoted to an unproductive bureaucracy and equality unproductive military and security services. Without allowing consumer demand to play a role in the economy, the force of creative destruction never acted to eliminate wasteful and unproductive state enterprises.


    I post these "reality" pieces in order to deter heavy duty propaganda about the "merits of communism." If you want a full dose of Communist propaganda attend a liberal arts college. It is astounding how much college professors at US colleges have been brainwashed. Aren't they suppose to be "objective?"

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    you KEEP RANTING about BAD COMMUNISM EXAMPLES as if that COUNTS for ANYTHING!? i thnk you would HAVE to ADMIRE HITLER like tRUMP does IF he had not PERSECUTED the joos!?
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    I propose there will not be much discussion on this thread because a large number of people have been brain washed. Why do I say that. Well, it is because, as a former professor, I know how much Marxism has penetrated higher education. Where is the proof, one might ask. Well, it is easy to find. Just
    look at indexes to introductory textbooks in social science disciplines
    . What you find are many references to Karl Marx. He has become a hero for the majority of college professors. Then, check out college classes. How many lectures and favorable comments are made about Marx?

    Based on logic and understanding, it is easy to conclude Marx was an intellectual Idiot! He did not understand the truth about human nature. He proposed a theory based on equality, which is not found in nature or in human societies.
    I challenge anyone to refute my proposition
    . Where do you find equality in the social world? Oh, yes, you find it when government makes it happen. That is not natural, it is contrived. Marx got it wrong!

    Oh, I need to mention, Marx is important. In the real world we have many bloody examples of Marxism, which include Stalin's purges of millions of people, decades of Soviet dictatorship, numerous failed revolutions throughout the world where millions of people have been brutally massacred, imprisoned, and denied economic opportunities to thrive and survive in free societies. It would have been better for the world if Marx had not been born.

    Oh, I forgot to mention China, a Marxist nation. Well, is China really communist? How does its economy function? Doesn't China prosper by manufacturing products for capitalists? What would happen to China if it really practiced communism? It would collapse! In practice, communism doesn't work, it is a destructive form of government.

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    Based on the evidence of what recent Democrats in Washington have professed, especially new radical members of congress, "socialism" has taken over the Democratic party. Marx would be proud, he would be "celebrating" for a communist take over of the US.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

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