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    STOP The ACLU

    This week at the ACLU

    Lets see what our friends have been workin' on for the betterment of society....


    Undermining 'abstinence education'....

    SIECUS and the CDC have a record of recommending curricula with extremely graphic content such as the use of grocery items like grape jelly being used as lubricants (Becoming a Responsible Teen), condom relay races, condom practice and fantasizing during classroom time, a homework assignment to go shopping for condoms, and how-to instructions for oral sex (Becoming a Responsible Teen, Be Proud! Be Responsible!, Get Real About AIDS). Focus on Kids, a curriculum for 9-15-year-olds, assigns teens to create a list of ways to be close to a person without having intercourse, including, "body massage, bathing together, masturbation, sensuous feeding, fantasizing, watching erotic movies, reading erotic books and magazines."

    "The content of these programs and exposing children as young as age nine to studies on sexual practices calls into question who authorized and recommended these programs in the first place," stated Libby Gray Macke, director of Project Reality. "Once again, SIECUS and other comprehensive sex ed advocates prefer to attack successful programs rather than have the content of their own recommended programs exposed. We hope that the GAO will investigate these programs to ensure that children are not exposed to these dangerous programs."

    http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=56159


    Blocking Megans law......



    The Sex-Offender Lobby
    Ideologues block reform of Megan's Law.

    BY CATHERINE SEIPP
    Thursday, October 6, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT

    LOS ANGELES--Did you know that in California, child molesters and rapists are a protected class? It's true. Not only are California landlords banned from using the state's Megan's Law database to decline renting their properties to sex offenders, they're not even allowed to warn other tenants that these paroled criminals are now their neighbors. If they do the first, they can be fined $25,000 for housing discrimination. But if they don't do the second, they can be sued for failing to protect tenants against a known danger.

    Landlords are caught between a rock, a hard place and the California State Assembly's Public Safety Committee, which last April stalled a bill designed to fix the Catch-22. The California Apartment Association is planning a grassroots effort to revive the bill, written by Assembly member Nicole Parra (D., Bakersfield), when the legislature reconvenes in January. Ms. Parra got the California Megan's Law registry online a year ago; before that, it was only available at police stations.

    The Megan's Law movement began in New Jersey in 1994, after a seven-year-old girl there was murdered by a paroled child molester who'd moved in across the street. Megan's Laws differ from state to state, but in general they require law enforcement to maintain a registry of convicted sex offenders living in the area and make this registry available to the public.

    The ACLU has fought Megan's Laws in every state but never succeeded in getting one declared unconstitutional; but as a sop to those worried about vigilantism, California's version included the provision against housing discrimination. The reform measure, AB 438, would specify that sex offenders are not a protected class. It would also order that the addresses of registered sex offenders--which are often outdated--be kept current online. As it stands, renters in an apartment formerly occupied by a sex offender run the risk of becoming false suspects.

    Nevertheless, the ACLU opposes AB 438, and Assembly members Mervyn Dymally (D., Compton), Jackie Goldberg (D., L.A.) and committee chair Mark Leno (D., San Francisco) all voted no. For representatives serving on a public safety committee, these three seem oddly unconcerned with public safety. Mr. Dymally lately has been arguing that it's wrong to deny illegal immigrants driver's licenses, but this is probably just the latest blip in a long career of entitlement politics. Ms. Goldberg and Mr. Leno, however, seem to have a particular habit of positioning themselves against anyone trying to promote an orderly civic environment in California.

    http://www.opinionjournal.com/cc/?id=110007364


    Protecting child molesters....

    Lawyers Fight for Release of Sex Criminals

    By SAMUEL MAULL
    Associated Press Writer

    NEW YORK (AP) -- Lawyers for 12 sex criminals who are being held in mental hospitals after their prison sentences ended complained to a judge Wednesday that the state is holding them illegally, a charge the state's lawyer denied.

    The sex offenders were ordered held by Gov. George Pataki, who had sought for years to get a law passed that would allow civil confinement of sex offenders when their sentences end.

    Pataki's plan extends the state's involuntary commitment law, normally used for the mentally ill, to sexual predators. It requires offenders nearing the end of their sentences to undergo an evaluation to determine if they are a public safety risk.

    Assistant Attorney General Edward J. Curtis said that before the end of the sex offenders' sentences, prison superintendents applied for orders of confinement, and got opinions from two psychiatrists saying each inmate needed to be hospitalized.

    Curtis said a third psychiatrist, at the hospital, also examines the inmate.

    Sadie Ishee, lawyer for Mental Hygiene Legal Services, said that did not satisfy state law, which she said requires court supervision and notification of patients' lawyers.

    Kevin Quinn, spokesman for Pataki, said the state carefully followed all laws and that arguments against the plan amounted to "a meritless legal technicality."

    The judge reserved decision on the inmates' petition.

    Pataki, considering a run for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, ordered state officials in September to look at the state's nearly 5,000 imprisoned sex offenders before their release to see if they should be civilly confined.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

    Protecting would-be terrorists...


    ACLU challenges Bucs on pat-down searches at NFL Games

    Tampa, Florida -- If you've been to a Bucs game this season, you've seen and felt a difference -- you get patted down before entering the stadium.

    But on Thursday, the American Civil Liberties Union and a Bucs season ticket holder are taking the owners of Raymond James Stadium to court.

    Gordon Johnston, a Bucs season ticket holder calls the searches a violation of his Constitutional rights. He also says the searches are ineffective, since they are only from the waist up.

    Johnston and the ACLU filed a lawsuit against the Tampa Sports Authority. Johnston says he still will probably attend this weekend's game at the Ray Jay.

    Meantime, the Sports Authority plans on continuing the searches, and points out they are mandated by the NFL.

    http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=19941


    STOP THE ACLU



    WHEREAS, the American Civil Liberties Union (the ACLU) has shown itself to be hostile to religious expression by private citizens and the civil rights of people of faith; and

    WHEREAS, the ACLU has declared war on the Boy Scouts of America, the military of the United States, Christmas displays, public buildings that display the Ten Commandments, and many other American traditions; and

    WHEREAS, the United States Congress, roughly thirty years ago, passed a provision in United States Code section 1988 that requires taxpayers to pay attorneys in civil rights cases; and

    WHEREAS, the ACLU has abused that law to make untold millions of dollars simply by suing boy scouts, school children, military academies, cities and towns, with the goal of punishing any who dare to exercise their First Amendment right to religious freedom and expression; and

    WHEREAS, the vast majority of taxpayers do not want to be forced to pay the ACLU to sue their neighbors and friends in the ACLU's efforts to strip America of all signs of faith; and

    WHEREAS, the Establisment Clause of the First Amendment was not contemplated when USC section 1988 was passed;

    THEREFORE, the People of the United States call upon their Congress to amend USC section 1988 so that hostile special interest groups such as the ACLU can no longer be granted taxpayer money to attack Americans and their institutions.

    We, The People, call upon our elected representatives to amend USC section 1988 so that fees are not awarded to the ACLU or any other plaintiff in Establisment Clause cases. We wish for the Free Expression Clause to implicate at least the same financial incentives as attacks upon faith currently have.

    http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/ACLU/




    WHAT?? THAT'S IT? Hey, it's only Monday! There is a long week ahead...
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    Hypocrisy in action. Gotta' love the stupidity! :cool:

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyO
    The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day

    We have to thank The New York Sun newspaper for digging this one up:

    As you may know, the New York chapter of the ACLU is suing the city for random bag checks in the subway system. But guess who's checking bags in their own offices? You got it, the NYCLU. The sign outside the office says, quote, "Please have photo ID ready for inspection. All packages are subject to inspection upon entering and leaving the premises."

    Whoa! Got to love that ACLU. To not do so would be ridiculous. It's great.
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174428,00.html

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    blah blah blah blah......
    Seperation of Church and State...it was created for a damn good reason to avoid previous wrong doings by governments,...Bush wants it killed as do a lot of conservative moralists, but the bottomline is it is OUTLAWED and should remain so forever.

    stop bringing down our country, and maybe teh horrible "leftist liberals" wont have to dog the administration all the time.

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    And how many times have they taken a position on an issue you were in favor of? They look at how issues affect individual liberties. And they have taken positions all over the political map over the decades that they have been around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ysne58
    And how many times have they taken a position on an issue you were in favor of? They look at how issues affect individual liberties. And they have taken positions all over the political map over the decades that they have been around.

    Fuuny thing: You can always depend on right-wing fascist Monkeys to get their panties in a wad over anything that defends and upholds civil liberties.

    However, to be fair, when the ACLU decided to defend Limbaugh, I started questioning their credibility as champions of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider
    Hypocrisy in action. Gotta' love the stupidity! :cool:



    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174428,00.html

    whats with the link....we all know they dont want religion to be inserted everywhere into our lives, ESPECIALLY in schools and places where teh general public doesnt need to be forced to deal with it.

    the link you provide says teh ACLU fights this, we all know it, wats the point of it.

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    yeah. i guess im just a godless , unloving creature with no purpose becuase i dont religion shoved down my throat in public places that i must deal with. the right has no other response other than to resort to name calling so ill save you the trouble and say thats what i am. if you want religion (really it means christianity, its never any other one) go to church.

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    It's difficult to defend them, isn't it? Megans law, anyone? Sex offenders, anyone? NAMBLA, anyone? The ACLU conducts themselves as a lawyer-swat team, protecting the rights of scumbags while subjecting the rest of the population. Something LIKE the ACLU is needed for several reasons, but this group, run by these people, needs to be stopped. And please explain what you mean by "shoved down your throat"? A nativity scene in your living room would be shoved down your throat, but somewhere in public it is not. This maggot who sued San Diego over a landmark cross...can't he just look somewhere else?

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    its just the general principle of it...
    the ACLU has done many a things that are very questionable when you consider its mission, but i dont think its at fault for religion based issues

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    It is the best example of the 'slippery-slope' of twisted liberal 'values' that I can think of...It started with not teaching anything but evolution in schools, even though there are those who believe otherwise(ok, I guess thats ok)...then we should not say the pledge of allegiance, even though we are one country(well, maybe that bothers people,ok, no problem)...then nativity scenes in shopping malls(um, wait a minute) then the mention of 'Christmas' as a school holiday(hey, hey..look..)...the mention of 'God' on a city flag(wait, wait a min-)...removing the commandments from public buildings(Hey, I didn't mean...) banning pre-game prayer from school sports teams( now you are just goin'crazy) removing a landmark because someone says they don't like to see a cross( now, wait a fvcking minute)...and on and on...

    If you let them gain momentum you will end up like we are now with this issue--just hangin' on for dear life. "Church and State"?PLEASE...we left that behind long ago.

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    i went to public school, and never faced anything about evolution vs. creationism, we said the pledge no problem, never heard of a nativity scene being taken out of a mall over public and ACLU outcries, everyone gets off for christmas thru new years for school, God on a city flag wtf you talking bout fool, ten commandments thats pretty stupid i admit but o well, prayer before sports teams well the kid should just shut up if the general group doesnt mind, the landmark thing well , pppfff, get a life besides scouring the net looking for stupid inane articles about landmarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umdkook
    i went to public school, and never faced anything about evolution vs. creationism, we said the pledge no problem, never heard of a nativity scene being taken out of a mall over public and ACLU outcries, everyone gets off for christmas thru new years for school, God on a city flag wtf you talking bout fool, ten commandments thats pretty stupid i admit but o well, prayer before sports teams well the kid should just shut up if the general group doesnt mind, the landmark thing well , pppfff, get a life besides scouring the net looking for stupid inane articles about landmarks.

    So, basically, you don't know anything about any of these examples but feel compelled to weigh in anyway...got it. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    It is the best example of the 'slippery-slope' of twisted liberal 'values' that I can think of...It started with not teaching anything but evolution in schools, even though there are those who believe otherwise(ok, I guess thats ok)...then we should not say the pledge of allegiance, even though we are one country(well, maybe that bothers people,ok, no problem)...then nativity scenes in shopping malls(um, wait a minute) then the mention of 'Christmas' as a school holiday(hey, hey..look..)...the mention of 'God' on a city flag(wait, wait a min-)...removing the commandments from public buildings(Hey, I didn't mean...) banning pre-game prayer from school sports teams( now you are just goin'crazy) removing a landmark because someone says they don't like to see a cross( now, wait a fvcking minute)...and on and on...

    If you let them gain momentum you will end up like we are now with this issue--just hangin' on for dear life. "Church and State"?PLEASE...we left that behind long ago.

    could you define a couple a things here for me.....who is "we"......and what is "dear" life!?and try to be specific and in your own words. :confused: :eek: :rolleyes:

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    or just compelled to dispel your biased lies

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    It's difficult to defend them, isn't it? Megans law, anyone? Sex offenders, anyone? NAMBLA, anyone? The ACLU conducts themselves as a lawyer-swat team, protecting the rights of scumbags while subjecting the rest of the population. Something LIKE the ACLU is needed for several reasons, but this group, run by these people, needs to be stopped. And please explain what you mean by "shoved down your throat"? A nativity scene in your living room would be shoved down your throat, but somewhere in public it is not. This maggot who sued San Diego over a landmark cross...can't he just look somewhere else?
    maybe he just dont like cement symbols.maybe he's a realist!wants the real thing or nothing.maybe god sent him just to piss you off!or wake you up?nah!you took a sleepin pill(blue pill) when ya voted for "W"!!that's it!!pleasant dreams!!of genie!!....me.....more like elvira!!:p :D :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by umdkook
    or just compelled to dispel your biased lies


    These are just news stories(actual events) if you don't like 'em--DON'T READ 'EM!

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