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    TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    OUTRAGEOUS! - A TEFL Scam Recruiter Warning Us About Scams - Welcome to China's Liars List TEFLNewbie.com!



    Check out this post on their website and you will understand why a picture (or screenshot is worth 1,000 words. For anyone who STILL does know, Over 2,900 foreign English teachers were arrested last year for working illegally without a university degree or using a fake diploma.
    http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/china-...-tefl-teachers Spread the word teachers.

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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    Since you started another thread on this topic;
    Quote Originally Posted by Curious Carol View Post
    Ted has been operating from Queensland, Australia for many years .
    LoL
    No,
    Ted operates out of Phoenix, Arizona in the US.

    http://whois.domaintools.com/teflnewbie.com;
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    That's the private registration service that is in Australia.

    Ted clearly lists his address on his other website, his FaceBook page, it is even shown on his BBB report, which shows no complaints in the last three years. He's a member of a few other organizations as well.

    But, of course as usual, you didn't bother to do any research on this at all.
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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    People that lie about Official Teaching Requirements and tell people to lie on their visa applications should not be trusted IMO. I do not need to "do research" beyond these two points.

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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    Quote Originally Posted by Public Warning View Post
    People that lie about Official Teaching Requirements and tell people to lie on their visa applications should not be trusted IMO. I do not need to "do research" beyond these two points.
    Then perhaps you shouldn't lie about what the requirements are.
    It's rather obvious that you don't know what these requirements actually are.
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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    Like some 200 other China job agents, the recruiting business of TEFL.newbie is done in cyberspace - on the internet. This is a place where he can be anyone he claims to be. So whether he is based in heaven or hell, or even Phoenix, Arizona, what is important is that he is FALSELY telling China job applicants that they can teach in China without a Z Visa and without a real bachelor degree from an accredditted university. This is illegal employment that the U.S. or Canadian embassy or Chinese consulate will confirm for you. If you get caught working without these two mandatory requirements you will get arrested, jailed, fined $2,000 and then deported as a convicted felon - just as you would be in America.
    So, Ted is deliberately misleading people and putting them at risk of being arrested and jailed like the 2,987 expat teachers were last year in China. http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/china-...-tefl-teachers

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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    Quote Originally Posted by Antibiotic View Post
    Like some 200 other China job agents, the recruiting business of TEFL.newbie is done in cyberspace - on the internet. This is a place where he can be anyone he claims to be. So whether he is based in heaven or hell, or even Phoenix, Arizona, what is important is that he is FALSELY telling China job applicants that they can teach in China without a Z Visa and without a real bachelor degree from an accredited university. This is illegal employment that the U.S. or Canadian embassy or Chinese consulate will confirm for you.
    You may want to brush up on the newer visas.

    http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2...-in-china.html;
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    The permit provides a federal model administered by SAFEA, eliminating the often troublesome and inconsistent regionally administered policies.
    That sentence there explains where a lot of your confusion arises from.
    This new policy launched regionally six months ago and should have launched nationally two weeks ago. Prior to that you had, "inconsistent regionally administered policies".





    Quote Originally Posted by Antibiotic View Post
    If you get caught working without these two mandatory requirements you will get arrested, jailed, fined $2,000 and then deported as a convicted felon - just as you would be in America.
    There is no such thing as a 'convicted felon' under the Chinese legal system. China does not use a felony/misdemeanor criminal classification system. The US does use a felony/misdemeanor criminal classification system, however being deported from the US is not a crime. Overstaying a visa or working without the proper visa in the US is also NOT a crime. Note that the employer can be fined for employing undocumented workers. People deported from the US are NOT convicted felons and will not have a criminal record related to the deportation or for being in the country illegally.
    Last edited by nomaxim; 04-16-2017 at 02:04 PM.
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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    Your "news"is from 2012 and no longer cuurent. Teachers in China are not consdered to be "foreign experts" below the Phd. Level. For CURRENT information people should visit http://safea.gov.cn which is the "horse's mouth" in this case. (Click on the English button if you cannot read Chinese).

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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    Quote Originally Posted by Solicitor Scams View Post
    Your "news"is from 2012 and no longer cuurent. Teachers in China are not consdered to be "foreign experts" below the Phd. Level. For CURRENT information people should visit http://safea.gov.cn which is the "horse's mouth" in this case. (Click on the English button if you cannot read Chinese).
    Do you mean like this?

    http://en.safea.gov.cn/2017-04/01/content_28767606.htm;
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    And the article I posted shows that also;
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    'Employment Permit for Foreigners', Z-visa.
    'Foreign Expert Work Permit', R-visa.

    Oh, and a few other minor issues.
    1.
    You link doesn't work.

    2.
    Quote Originally Posted by Solicitor Scams View Post
    cuurent
    CURRENT
    The second one is the correct spelling.

    3.
    Quote Originally Posted by Solicitor Scams View Post
    consdered
    That word has a 'i' in it, 'considered'.

    Do let me know when your English reading, writing, and spelling skills improve. I might just believe that you are a English teacher.
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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    As we were told this morning by a manager (Ms Song.) at SAFEA in Beijing, TEFL & ESL teachers are not yet considered to be "foreign experts" and only need a Z visa, police certificate, and university degree with two years teaching experience to come teach in China. At some point they may add foreign English teachers to the "C" class or maybe add a "D" class but Ms. Song says the standard 2016 requirements as stated above are still in effect.
    Last edited by China Scam Patrol; 04-20-2017 at 11:53 PM.
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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    Quote Originally Posted by China Scam Patrol View Post
    As we were told this morning by a manager (Ms Song.) at SAFEA in Beijing, TEFL & ESL teachers are not yet considered to be "foreign experts" and only need a Z visa, police certificate, and university degree with two years teaching experience to come teach in China. At some point they may add foreign English teachers to the "C" class or maybe add a "D" class but Ms. Song says the standard 2016 requirements as stated above are still in effect.
    Then I'm sure your Ms. Song, (or is it Sung or Soong {宋}) will get that SAFEA article corrected ASAP.

    Unless you are suggesting that SAFEA is providing erroneous information there BAG.
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    Re: TEFLNewbie.com = Another China TEFL Scam Teacher Job Recruiter

    Quote Originally Posted by nomaxim View Post
    Then I'm sure your Ms. Song, (or is it Sung or Soong {宋}) will get that SAFEA article corrected ASAP.

    Unless you are suggesting that SAFEA is providing erroneous information there BAG.
    Yeah I'm sure youre aware this is just an extortion racket by Bruce Gorcyca who is the bane of the chinese internet. All the BS china scam sites are just this guy.

    Honestly I think he's mentally ill. He's clearly a fugitive from the US and Canada and yet can't just go and teach english and keep his head down. It seems like he has to compulsively do this kinda stuff. Make up tales of government persecution.

    For god's sake Bruce just go and teach ESL or something and stay under the radar. Obviously you can't do anything better legally. You're just an ordinary average guy with delusions of being owed something!

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