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  1. #33
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    Re: POWUR Solar = SCAM

    And what is worse, Solar City is bleeding millions, near bankruptcy, so if Musky doesn't bail them out, then what, and even if he does, he may pull the carpet out underneath whatever weak agreement they may have had with Solar City. Not very much security in my mind.

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    Re: POWUR Solar = SCAM

    well Donald Trump is the great destroyer of companies ....

    Jonathan Budd is keeping pace with the POS fraud named Trump

  3. #35
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    they are now guaranteeing folks five signups .. and then a promise of refunding their $499

    and then totally disappearing

    POWUR being shut down is long overdue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cons Lie View Post
    well Donald Trump is the great destroyer of companies ....

    Jonathan Budd is keeping pace with the POS fraud named Trump
    What the hell does one have to do with the other, you want to compare a mickey mouse MLM scam with the Trump empire of hundreds of successful business interests. Never in history has a successful entrepreneur not had failures along the way, so how stupid to compare the two.

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    Trump ?

    ya mean the MOFO who has not payed taxes for two decades?
    ya mean the MOFO who outsources jobs to China and Mexico?

    Trump is only a salesman .. not a good businessman and his biz plan will send the world into a depression as he is CLUELESS ON ALL ISSUES and makes Palin look mentally sane

    the only stupidity is based around the folks who are attracted to this complete fraud who bankrupted numerous companies .... is in bed with Muslim terrorists .... is in bed with Putin .... uses China and Mexico for outsourcing American jobs

    Trump lies about everything and so does Budd

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    Budd = Trump

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/...ever-know.html


    The True Cost of Donald Trump’s Tax Swindle Could Be Worse Than We Will Ever Know

    By Rmuse on Mon, Oct 3rd, 2016 at 10:09 am

    Trump has benefited financially from raping, pillaging and bankrupting other businesses and suppliers as well as ripping off taxpayers and government
    The True Cost of Donald Trump’s Tax Swindle Could Be Worse Than We Will Ever Know

    *The following is an opinion column by R Muse*

    snip//

    Although this story could be about an unfair tax code devised to create wealth for the already filthy rich, it is more about how Trump has benefited financially from raping, pillaging and bankrupting other businesses and suppliers as well as ripping off taxpayers and governments at the local, state and federal level throughout the course of his “daddy-provided” business career and a whopping $886 million in tax breaks courtesy of New York taxpayers.

    It is, no matter how one appraises the situation, an abomination that Trump has “most likely” avoided paying any taxes over the course of at least 18 years according to NYT tax experts, but besides ripping of taxpayers who are paying for services and infrastructure Trump and his businesses benefit from, there is the matter of everyone Trump ripped off along the way. It has been covered once or twice over the past year or so while everyone in the media focused on Trump’s racism and bigotry, but it was his business incompetence, deceit and predation that allowed him to lose massive amounts of money, decimate other Americans’ businesses, profit off of other taxpayers and still fly in a private jet and wallow in luxury without ever paying his share – forget the idea of a “fair share.”

    As the Times reported, those 18 years (at least) of extraordinary tax benefits Trump “earned” are from the wreckage he wrought by mismanaging three Atlantic City casinos in the 1990s, his disastrous foray into the airline business, and the purchase of the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan the NYT said was “ill-timed.” Although sane human beings realize that Trump’s claims of “fabulous business acumen” are completely bogus after learning about a nearly billion dollar “loss” in one tax year, his fierce disciples will celebrate his cunning to rip off the federal government for 8 years and still live in abject luxury. Those same Trump devotees celebrate his ability to fabricate facts and lie as a matter-of-course and never face any consequences.

    What Donald Trump’s acolytes don’t know, and definitely don’t care about, is that besides the government being scammed out of revenue for 18 years, many hard working Americans and small businesses were ripped off and ruined so Trump could post one year’s worth of a seriously massive business loss. What Trump’s supporters, and many ignorant Americans, also likely can’t comprehend is that it is almost certain that the $916 million in “losses” was not Trump’s money. As an aside, it is fairly certain that Trump probably “lost” much more than $916 million because that negative number was his “adjusted gross income;” the figure determined by annual income as adjusted by that tax year’s losses.

    Donald Trump claims he is an exceptional business mind that qualifies him to be president and “manage” America like it was his personal business. However, not only is he not exceptional at business, America or its government are not businesses to be raided for personal profit at the expense of other Americans, including Donald Trump’s ignorant supporters.

    Although this story may develop further, it is likely that with a cadre of conservative media at his disposal and stupid devotees cheering his every despicable act, past and present that very few in the media will report, Donald Trump will take advantage of this so-called “October surprise.” He will feign being persecuted by the liberal media and boast to his supporters that despite showing a one-year loss of nearly a billion dollars and not paying taxes, he is still a fabulous business mind that lives in mansions and flies around the world in his personal jet and still doesn’t pay taxes; not because he’s smart, but because Americans are stupid and keep electing Republicans.

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    Budd is not helping his associates .... basically taking their money and if they use his "system" and promote his ass they can "stay onboard"... even cases I have heard of associates getting their numbers blocked who DARE GO AGAINST THE "ADVICE" OF THE MIGHTY CON MAN ....

    he is now blocking the numbers of folks who are "straying" and not following orders from Jonathan Trump ... sorry ... Jonathan Budd

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    Re: POWUR Solar = SCAM

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Westerfield View Post
    Budd ain't even paying commissions as I have industry contacts and his overall comp plan is a joke and his pathetic websites handed out are typical Budd and the MLM crap of doing all the company promotion work for free

    Musk has cut ties with Budd ... funny how the POWUR / BUDD supporters are quiet on that issue
    Would like a source on this...would like to see proof.

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    I have talked with 4 folks who quit POWUR and asked why - same issues:

    1) No support from corporate
    2) Not getting paid

    Budd is a con act deluxo .... horrific MLM record and has perfected the act of bullshitting folks

    Musk cut ties .... the owner of one of his competitors who founded POWUR quit according to rumors over fears of the FTC shutting down the operation .... got that from a source in Florida who follows what is going on with POWUR

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    Re: POWUR Solar = SCAM

    again ... $499 to join a proven MLM Scam artist?

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    only a matter of time until the FTC comes knocking ....

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    "You IBO's are not allowed to have your personal websites"

    Yep ... new directive from Johnathan Trump

  13. #45

    Re: POWUR Solar = SCAM

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson Thomas View Post
    Jonathan Budd = major league scam artist / Bobby Scott -= ACN scam artist

    Budd is charging folks up to $495 to become a rep
    Budd is claiming they will do 2 million installs by 2025 ... really? Solar City who they are in bed with has done 300,000 TOTAL !

    Budd knows nothing about Solar ... he just changed the comp plan which no one can understand anyway and commissions now are $200 per install and a TINY ISSUE ... 2 FOLKS WITH DOWNLINES OF 300 PLUS HAVE BOLTED IN THE LAST WEEK DUE TO Budd refusing to pay commissions

    TOTAL JOKE ... a reflection of Budd's Riplin disaster
    I agree totally with this post. Budd made millions recruiting people at $499.00 per pop into Ripplin and shut it down before it even officially launched.

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    Re: POWUR Solar = SCAM

    I did a 2 year investigation of POWUR. A police officer friend did his own investigation and we have 100% proved Powur is legit and they are changing the game on renewable energy for the good. I can not find one single bad thing about Powur and I have looked and looked. I imagine all the negative comments on here are from jealous solar salesman or companies that know Powur is dominating the Solar industry and no one can compete so they send all these salesman to falsify reviews. I stand with Powur and I put my reputation behind this amazing company. Https:johnbolenbaugh.solar I also own Veteran Solar Sales in Michigan.

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