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    POWUR Solar = SCAM

    Jonathan Budd = major league scam artist / Bobby Scott -= ACN scam artist

    Budd is charging folks up to $495 to become a rep
    Budd is claiming they will do 2 million installs by 2025 ... really? Solar City who they are in bed with has done 300,000 TOTAL !

    Budd knows nothing about Solar ... he just changed the comp plan which no one can understand anyway and commissions now are $200 per install and a TINY ISSUE ... 2 FOLKS WITH DOWNLINES OF 300 PLUS HAVE BOLTED IN THE LAST WEEK DUE TO Budd refusing to pay commissions

    TOTAL JOKE ... a reflection of Budd's Riplin disaster

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    POWUR Solar = SCAM

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson Thomas View Post
    Jonathan Budd = major league scam artist / Bobby Scott -= ACN scam artist

    Budd is charging folks up to $495 to become a rep
    Budd is claiming they will do 2 million installs by 2025 ... really? Solar City who they are in bed with has done 300,000 TOTAL !

    Budd knows nothing about Solar ... he just changed the comp plan which no one can understand anyway and commissions now are $200 per install and a TINY ISSUE ... 2 FOLKS WITH DOWNLINES OF 300 PLUS HAVE BOLTED IN THE LAST WEEK DUE TO Budd refusing to pay commissions

    TOTAL JOKE ... a reflection of Budd's Riplin disaster
    Exactly, couldn't agree more, he simply took the old CitizenRE plan from a former partner who ran that scam and when people connected the dots, the fraud was no longer mentioned on site. Just look at all the ripoffs like his rippin deal. Anyone can register as a Solar City distributor for free, and limited training is required, so with Budd deal, the representative money is where the commissions are coming from initially for it will take months for any solar installation money to be generated.

    Research Solar City, they along with Musk have ripped off state tax incentives to the tune of tens of millions, as he did in NY and then lays off workers after he rips off tax payers under the guise of economic development. Slick character to promise states he will hire thousands, then with no recourse, does not, or hires far less. Solyndra all over again, rip gov. off for millions and then close doors. Solar in all these years has not even hit 1% in U.S., and with Budd deal, just like with CitizenRE model, it won't fly for long. Take away the state and fed. tax incentives and POOF, solar dies.

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    POWUR is not currently paying associates ... folks who paid $495 to become a spokesman for his latest scam

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    I love the scam.com message board. Good information on POWUR Solar = SCAM

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    i love this topic

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    Budd of Riplin "fame" has a partner named Scott from ACN ... neither are from Solar and Budd now can't mention ELON MUSK anymore on all POWUR marketing ... guessing Elon not comfortable with Budd making claims his company would do 2 million solar installs by 2025 or the fact his folks bragging about "we are creating six figure income earners" when they haven't even launched

    Budd is good only at promoting himself ... found out his CO-OP with Powur for $250 was guaranteeing leads .... turns out the leads were resold leads from Cutting Edge Media which is a common practice in that industry

    Powur has had 2 groups recently with 300 - 500 folks recently quit .... can't get paid and the Budd supplied website which has no contact info for the IBO's was data Budd and corporate were grabbing

    Budd brags about Empower Network ... nice to see Johnny is bragging about his involvement in a cash gifting opp run by a druggie who brought onboard shit like Budd's good buddy Tony Rush

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    100% right on the mark commentary by Free Home Business ... thanks !!

    "he simply took the old CitizenRE plan from a former partner who ran that scam and when people connected the dots, the fraud was no longer mentioned on site. Just look at all the ripoffs like his rippin deal. Anyone can register as a Solar City distributor for free, and limited training is required, so with Budd deal, the representative money is where the commissions are coming from initially for it will take months for any solar installation money to be generated."

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    anyone willing to shell out $499 to Budd gets no sympathy from me

    remember scammer boy with the video promoting his worthless "marketing system" with a home he claimed his own that had no furniture inside? Riplin was a complete disaster then he got on his knees and sucked off David Wood to get a spot inside the cash gifting scam Tony Rush was involved with called Empower Network

    I've seen his comp plan with POWUR ... typical MLM crap that is too damn complicated for the average person to understand

    BOTTOM LINE: BUDD AND HIS PARTNER FROM ACN WHO IS A FAKE BIBLE THUMPER HAVE NO EXPC IN SOLAR .... and love how Musk has already dumped any mention of his name with POWUR

    Jonathan Budd and Donald Trump = no difference as both asshole frauds

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginny13 View Post
    anyone willing to shell out $499 to Budd gets no sympathy from me

    remember scammer boy with the video promoting his worthless "marketing system" with a home he claimed his own that had no furniture inside? Riplin was a complete disaster then he got on his knees and sucked off David Wood to get a spot inside the cash gifting scam Tony Rush was involved with called Empower Network

    I've seen his comp plan with POWUR ... typical MLM crap that is too damn complicated for the average person to understand

    BOTTOM LINE: BUDD AND HIS PARTNER FROM ACN WHO IS A FAKE BIBLE THUMPER HAVE NO EXPC IN SOLAR .... and love how Musk has already dumped any mention of his name with POWUR

    Jonathan Budd and Donald Trump = no difference as both asshole frauds
    And when you drill down on this deal, I asked to see the Solar City license agreement as many have, no one has ever seen it, and if you did, you would never throw $500. at these hype masters. Anyone can register with Solar City, I did early on to evaluate deal, and for those not familiar with Solar City, they are losing money just like those who fall for solar will lose money. Take away the energy rebates and tax incentives and this whole deal collapses overnight. Over the past three decades I have been in the alternative energy industry, solar will fail without government handouts, whether state or federal, and in all these years, and less than 1% market penetration, that says it all. Musk used Solar City to steal millions in tax incentives in NY and then will let it die just like Solyndra billion dollar government tax payer money scam. Don;t waste your money with this deal, it will be gone by end of year.

    And Trump is hardly a fraud compared to Budd and his history.

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    Hey Jackson...you hit the nail right on the head ! Check out the Youtube video I just posted :
    https://youtu.be/R0jmiZQXRNQ

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    Budd can't even pay commissions .... he changed the comp plan again and NO ONE CAN SEE THE DOC ON PG FIVE COVERING THE "20 YEAR COMMISSION" PAYOUT

    BUDD IS DOING WHAT HE DOES BEST... THINK OF RIPLIN FOLKS

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    To whom it may concern… this thread is full of mis-truths, inaccurate facts and several blatantly false statements. As a Compliance Officer at Powur, I deal in facts. Here are the facts:

    1. Powur PBC is incorporated as a Public Benefit Corporation, one of the first inside the direct selling industry. As such, our overarching legal purpose is to make a material positive impact on society and the environment. Powur’s bylaws, policies, procedures, operational protocols and organization are focused to accomplish this goal and to date we have prevented millions of pounds of CO2 from entering the atmosphere, with that number increasing every day.

    2. Powur is the pioneer for the renewable energy/efficiency product category inside the direct selling industry. The company’s first partnership is with SolarCity, the nation’s leading clean energy provider.

    3. Powur has invested nearly $2.6 million in its proprietary software platform and state-of-the-art marketing tools to enable clean-energy entrepreneurs to build their own businesses. Partners obtain a life-long license to this platform, including its on-going enhancements and new features plus additional business training, life coaching and daily/weekly support to build their own solar energy business.

    4. After two years of development and beta testing and over $1.2 million invested by Jonathan Budd, founder and CEO, along with 40+ other savvy investors (including Tech Coast Angels, one of the largest and most prominent angel investment organizations in the U.S.), Powur officially launched on July 30, 2016 at an event in San Diego, CA. As of August 31, 2016, 2,400 individuals have joined Powur as a partner. All of the claims about teams leaving the company are entirely untrue. There is no such team of 300 that has left Powur and this is a misleading and inaccurate statement.

    5. Powur donates $5 of every solar installation to The Pachamama Alliance, a nonprofit organization that empowers indigenous people of the Amazon rainforest to preserve their lands and culture and, using insights gained from that work, to educate and inspire individuals everywhere to bring forth a thriving, just and sustainable world.

    6. Powur’s Compensation Plan is posted on the platform that every user has access to, and has been widely trained on throughout the organization. The company has consistently paid commissions per the plan to all eligible partners and there is not a single instance of a delayed, missing or unpaid commission. The above post on delayed commission is a misleading and false statement.

    7. The Powur Advertising Co-op does not use leads from Cutting Edge Media at all. Powur generates leads in real time across a variety of online channels. This is another example of false and misleading information.

    8. The statements about our CEO, Jonathan Budd, are simply false and misleading. Jonathan has a deep history in direct sales and technology. He founded and built Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc., one of the largest training and education companies in direct selling, with over 120,000 customers. He has been the mentor and guide to thousands in this industry and has consistently been ahead of the trends inside direct selling. Jonathan saw the future of solar energy and direct sales years ago and has spent the past three years focused on innovating the first 100% direct selling solar energy model.

    9. Since 2007, Jonathan has personally donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to organizations that are helping to improve humankind through innovative solutions to many of our world’s most challenging problems, including The Pachamama Alliance, Freedom from Hunger, Just Like My Child Foundation, and Charity: Water. Those who know him see that his daily actions align completely with his words and his commitment to contributing to our world via business and philanthropy is clear.

    10. Regarding the mention of the Rippln organization, Jonathan was a minority partner in this venture, neither the founder or CEO, and like many, believed there was huge opportunity to create the first mobile communication app for the network marketing industry. A lot was achieved early on but unfortunately the company faced challenges it could not overcome and Jonathan made the decision to leave the company. This is common in early stage ventures under 1 year old. Having a completely unique insight into the challenges that brand new, never-done-before business models face when entering into the direct sales industry, Jonathan was able to apply all those lessons forward at Powur and successfully partner with the world’s leading clean energy company, raise millions of dollars, and validate a working model in record time for solar energy. We are extremely proud of our accomplishments and milestones achieved to date.

    In closing, our team at Powur is looking forward to a bright future, and helping millions of homeowners switch to clean energy with solar, while keeping more of their hard earned money instead of giving it to a utility.

    Anyone researching this post should be cautioned by the false and misleading claims, and the lack of transparency or exposure of those making the claims. There is virtually nothing to substantiate any of the members of this thread’s statements or opinions about Powur.

    Thanks,
    Beth Robinson
    Powur Compliance
    Last edited by BethR; 09-01-2016 at 10:26 AM.

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    Beth...sorry to see that you like many others have let Jonathan pull the wool over your eyes...suggest that you look up the definition of Sociopath... Regardless, I wish you luck... Will be very interesting to see how this situation works out.


    Quote Originally Posted by BethR View Post
    To whom it may concern this thread is full of mis-truths, inaccurate facts and several blatantly false statements. As a Compliance Officer at Powur, I deal in facts. Here are the facts:

    1. Powur PBC is incorporated as a Public Benefit Corporation, one of the first inside the direct selling industry. As such, our overarching legal purpose is to make a material positive impact on society and the environment. Powurs bylaws, policies, procedures, operational protocols and organization are focused to accomplish this goal and to date we have prevented millions of pounds of CO2 from entering the atmosphere, with that number increasing every day.

    2. Powur is the pioneer for the renewable energy/efficiency product category inside the direct selling industry. The companys first partnership is with SolarCity, the nations leading clean energy provider.

    3. Powur has invested nearly $2.6 million in its proprietary software platform and state-of-the-art marketing tools to enable clean-energy entrepreneurs to build their own businesses. Partners obtain a life-long license to this platform, including its on-going enhancements and new features plus additional business training, life coaching and daily/weekly support to build their own solar energy business.

    4. After two years of development and beta testing and over $1.2 million invested by Jonathan Budd, founder and CEO, along with 40+ other savvy investors (including Tech Coast Angels, one of the largest and most prominent angel investment organizations in the U.S.), Powur officially launched on July 30, 2016 at an event in San Diego, CA. As of August 31, 2016, 2,400 individuals have joined Powur as a partner. All of the claims about teams leaving the company are entirely untrue. There is no such team of 300 that has left Powur and this is a misleading and inaccurate statement.

    5. Powur donates $5 of every solar installation to The Pachamama Alliance, a nonprofit organization that empowers indigenous people of the Amazon rainforest to preserve their lands and culture and, using insights gained from that work, to educate and inspire individuals everywhere to bring forth a thriving, just and sustainable world.

    6. Powurs Compensation Plan is posted on the platform that every user has access to, and has been widely trained on throughout the organization. The company has consistently paid commissions per the plan to all eligible partners and there is not a single instance of a delayed, missing or unpaid commission. The above post on delayed commission is a misleading and false statement.

    7. The Powur Advertising Co-op does not use leads from Cutting Edge Media at all. Powur generates leads in real time across a variety of online channels. This is another example of false and misleading information.

    8. The statements about our CEO, Jonathan Budd, are simply false and misleading. Jonathan has a deep history in direct sales and technology. He founded and built Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc., one of the largest training and education companies in direct selling, with over 120,000 customers. He has been the mentor and guide to thousands in this industry and has consistently been ahead of the trends inside direct selling. Jonathan saw the future of solar energy and direct sales years ago and has spent the past three years focused on innovating the first 100% direct selling solar energy model.

    9. Since 2007, Jonathan has personally donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to organizations that are helping to improve humankind through innovative solutions to many of our worlds most challenging problems, including The Pachamama Alliance, Freedom from Hunger, Just Like My Child Foundation, and Charity: Water. Those who know him see that his daily actions align completely with his words and his commitment to contributing to our world via business and philanthropy is clear.

    10. Regarding the mention of the Rippln organization, Jonathan was a minority partner in this venture, neither the founder or CEO, and like many, believed there was huge opportunity to create the first mobile communication app for the network marketing industry. A lot was achieved early on but unfortunately the company faced challenges it could not overcome and Jonathan made the decision to leave the company. This is common in early stage ventures under 1 year old. Having a completely unique insight into the challenges that brand new, never-done-before business models face when entering into the direct sales industry, Jonathan was able to apply all those lessons forward at Powur and successfully partner with the worlds leading clean energy company, raise millions of dollars, and validate a working model in record time for solar energy. We are extremely proud of our accomplishments and milestones achieved to date.

    In closing, our team at Powur is looking forward to a bright future, and helping millions of homeowners switch to clean energy with solar, while keeping more of their hard earned money instead of giving it to a utility.

    Anyone researching this post should be cautioned by the false and misleading claims, and the lack of transparency or exposure of those making the claims. There is virtually nothing to substantiate any of the members of this threads statements or opinions about Powur.

    Thanks,
    Beth Robinson
    Powur Compliance
    Bruce Deery ~ Solar Energy Consultant

    tel or text : 828-989-7771
    Skype : rbdeery
    http://about.me/brucedeery

    jointhecrew.com/TheSolarGuy

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    Budd knows NOTHING about Solar and his VP "partner" is a religious ahole from ACN

    Musk cut ties for obvious reasons ... Mr "Ripplin" fame is lying about number of installs and typical MLM hype of Budd creating "millionaires"

    BUNCH OF CRAP as Budd ain't paying commissions as know 2 groups of 300 plus that quit over not getting paid .... his setup is no better than being an ambassador for free with Solar City ... he ran a Co-Op guaranteeing folks recently 20 leads at a cost of $250 - 100% lie as he can't guarantee one lead so Budd in bed with CEM which is standard in the MLM Industry

    Budd offers ZERO marketing that will work ... how special he is scarfing all data from IBO's and notice how the supplied websites have NO CONTACT about the IBO though their site they paid $499 for

    This whole shit fling fits right in line with Budd's claim to fame as a marketing "guru" when he used a fake home that had zero furniture inside and claimed it was his home

    Budd is Donald Trump of MLM ... Trump a biz failure on all fronts ... a proven liar on all issues .... does not pay his bills and uses folks with his bullshit rhetoric

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    This Beth person is a LYING SOS .... shall we examine?

    1) to quote her - Regarding the mention of the Rippln organization, Jonathan was a minority partner in this venture, neither the founder or CEO

    REALLY? BUDD CLAIMS HE WAS CO-FOUNDER and below is his video:

    Hi Rippn players, this is Rippln co founder Jonathan Budd and we have n exciting update video to share with you today. - http://millionairemindspro.com/TheRi...han-budd-news/

    2) He founded and built Empowered Entrepreneurs Inc., one of the largest training and education companies in direct selling, with over 120,000 customers
    - EMPOWER WAS A CASH GIFTING OPP .... THEY HAD ZERO "CLIENTS"
    - 98% OF EMPOWER FOLKS LOST MONEY
    - BUDD DID NOT FOUND EMPOWER - DAVID WOOD and DAVID SHARPE DID and both snake scammers like Budd - http://www.prosperitycampaign.org/em...ork/dave-wood/

    in fact Wood mentions Budd as a "top producer" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIsNsAaULiQ

    STOP THE FING LIES ... Budd is a scam artist deluxo and POWUR is a $499 waste of money ... SC is identical and interesting how Budd won't show the pg five docs for the alleged 20 yr commission payouts folks? Why did Musk tell Budd to no longer mention his name in marketing?

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    heard rumors the drop rate is huge ...

    wow ... $200 commissions on installs after paying Budd $500 ?

    LOL ... the scammer boy Budd doing what he does best and the claims he co-founded Empower is a joke ... he was nothing more than an assct running with MLM fraud Tony Rush

    Screw the comments making Budd out to be some successful biz man ... same clown with the empty house video claiming his with another of his bullcrap mktg "sytems"

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