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    Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants


    Twenty Three expat foreign teachers have died of Hepatitis C over the last 5 years from infections caught in China, the country with the highest infection rate in the world (according to WHO). Yet when people try to talk about this subject with facts and details at ESLCafe.com they get deleted and then banned. Apparently, Dave Sperling cares more about those advertising and recruitment referral dollars than the health and lives of foreign teachers who expose themselves to the most contagious disease in the world. The facts they hide are the following:

    * The Chinese government stopped reporting their infection rate a few years ago when it was 12% of the population. The WHO now estimates the true infection rate to be as much as 18% because of incidents like this that are very common in China http://www.echinacities.com/news/Yos...ing-Dinnerware

    * HCV is spread by and through any and all body fluids - not just by sex. Saliva is a body fluid. In saliva the HCV pathogen can live for 72 hours outside the human body - 48 hours on a dry surface (Chopsticks). Yoshinoya boasts that it feeds 1 million people an hour in China - 24/7 at its many chain locations that is popular with foreigners.

    * In China, most cases of Hepatitis go undetected for 3-7 years until a new mother must get a blood test when they become pregnant or a man needs a health certificate to apply for medical insurance. About 30% of the Chinese population never have a blood test in their lives because they live in rural areas.

    * 25% of people infected with Hep C (HCV) will die from the disease within 5-10 years - an undisputed fact in the medical community.

    * There is no known cure for Hepatitis but some vaccines are about 80% effective (like Twin RX)

    Yep, Hepatitis is bad news that is bad for the HR and advertising business at ESLCafe.com. Other ESL & TEFL Forums at least give warnings - the ethical thing to do. http://eslwatch.info/eslwatch-forum/...chers.html#724
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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    Some info from WebMD-

    http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/hepa-...es-hepatitis-a
    http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/hepb-...topic-overview
    http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/hepc-guide/digestive-diseases-hepatitis-c



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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/hepc-...tecting-others

    How Hepatitis C Is -- and Isn't -- Spread

    Hepatitis C is spread only through exposure to an infected person's blood. It cannot be spread through:


    As you can see, everyday contact is not risky. "The transmission rate between people in a household is probably just a little above zero," says Howard J. Worman, MD, associate professor of medicine at Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York.
    However, hepatitis C can be spread through blood. So follow these common precautions:

    • Don't share razors, toothbrushes, nail clippers, or anything else that could have your blood on it. Cover any open wounds or sores with bandages.
    • Carefully dispose of tampons, sanitary napkins, tissues, used bandages, and anything else that might have your blood on it.
    • If you're using injected street drugs, get into a treatment program. At the very least, don't share needles or equipment with anyone else.
    • Don't donate blood, organs, tissue, or semen.

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    You are mistaken friend. The WHO and other respected medical organizations all agree that Hepatitis B & C can be spread through ANY body fluids including saliva and even orals sex. Read here: http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbfo...8fc02#p1973035

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    You were saying?


    "Transmission

    The hepatitis C virus is a bloodborne virus. It is most commonly transmitted through:

    • injecting drug use through the sharing of injection equipment;
    • in health care settings due to the reuse or inadequate sterilization of medical equipment, especially syringes and needles;
    • the transfusion of unscreened blood and blood products;
    • HCV can also be transmitted sexually and can be passed from an infected mother to her baby; however these modes of transmission are much less common.

    Hepatitis C is not spread through breast milk, food or water or by casual contact such as hugging, kissing and sharing food or drinks with an infected person."


    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs164/en/

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    DeeDee my dear... Maybe you should read more than one source. John Hopkins University completed a study in 2015 that document HBV and HCV transmission through saliva and men giving oral sex to women. Also check out the sources in the below link I stole from another forum...

    "Stratos cited his sources and they are legit. Why would he lie about such a dreadful thing as Hep C? Yes, blood is the most common channel of infection but not the only way. My cousin got Hep C from a tattoo needle and there are over a thousand documented cases of people who were infected from sharing eating utensils. I think we should all know about the risks of using plastic chopsticks in China. I recall that the owner of Yoshinoya was sent to prison for a year and now all their locations offer disposable cups and chopsticks at the counter by government order. That speaks volumes in my book.

    Both Hep B and Hep C can be transmitted through "body fluids" (not just blood) and indeed through saliva and even oral sex. You are living in the dark ages if you still think that blood transfusions are the only way to get infected.

    http://www.who.int/csr/disease/hepatiti ... ndex1.html

    http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing/a ... ed-to-know

    http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012 ... 745511.htm

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china ... 150893.htm

    http://www.china.org.cn/china/2013-02/0 ... 900167.htm

    I personally will never use plastic chopsticks again as long as I breathe air. I will probably avoid using reusable drinking cups in China as well. For me, paper cups and throw-away wooden chopsticks is the safe way to go. I am not going to play Russian Roulette with my health whether the infection rate is 10% or 25% when it costs me nothing to request disposable stuff at a restaurant."

    My former partner had Hep C and the source was
    not contaminated blood. Luckily she got treatment and is able to cope with the disease pretty well but the expense of the treatment is high.

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    Quote Originally Posted by Damn The Torpedos!
    DeeDee my dear... Maybe you should read more than one source. John Hopkins University completed a study in 2015 that document HBV and HCV transmission through saliva and men giving oral sex to women. Also check out the sources in the below link I stole from another forum...
    Kindly post a link to this study in a medical journal.

    And you can stop re-posting the same links to meaningless blogs and news articles. Your links in post 6 are the same ones that appear at the link in post 4, none of which appear to contain a link to this study either. The exception is the WHO link, which is for HBV and not HCV. I proved the correct WHO link for HCV.



    I might have been more impressed if you knew how to spell torpedoes.
    There are two e's in the word.

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    Just realized that the edit function doesn't work here either. Someone sure borked the VB software.

    "How is Hepatitis C spread?

    Hepatitis C is usually spread when blood from a person infected with the Hepatitis C virus enters the body of someone who is not infected. Today, most people become infected with the Hepatitis C virus by sharing needles or other equipment to inject drugs. Before 1992, when widespread screening of the blood supply began in the United States, Hepatitis C was also commonly spread through blood transfusions and organ transplants. People can become infected with the Hepatitis C virus during such activities as

    • Sharing needles, syringes, or other equipment to inject drugs
    • Needlestick injuries in health care settings
    • Being born to a mother who has Hepatitis C

    Less commonly, a person can also get Hepatitis C virus infection through

    • Sharing personal care items that may have come in contact with another person’s blood, such as razors or toothbrushes
    • Having sexual contact with a person infected with the Hepatitis C virus

    Can Hepatitis C be spread through sexual contact?

    Yes, but the risk of transmission from sexual contact is believed to be low. The risk increases for those who have multiple sex partners, have a sexually transmitted disease, engage in rough sex, or are infected with HIV. More research is needed to better understand how and when Hepatitis C can be spread through sexual contact."


    "Can Hepatitis C be spread within a household?

    Yes, but this does not occur very often. If Hepatitis C virus is spread within a household, it is most likely a result of direct, through-the-skin exposure to the blood of an infected household member."

    http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/hcv/cfaq.htm#cFAQ31

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    There is no vaccine at this time against HCV.

    As for HAV and HBV, vaccines are only $70-80 USD at http://www.walmart.com/cp/1228302?adid=22222222220220401047&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=78568306038&wl4=kwd-169549160&wl5=9015369&veh=sem



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    This is serious shit and it is so bad in China that their government will not let any university or hospital research team release he true infection rate so the public will not panic. http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbfo...7a2a11b34b7059
    Deduction my ass... I need proof!

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    That's the third time you've linked to the same thread as a source there Bruce. :

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    EslCafe deletes and hides anything and everything that might give a person second thoughts about teaching in China. Here is just a sample of the important infomation they hide from people not just health risks like the toxic smog or hepatitis...

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    Trust only your birth mother!

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applicants

    I see quite a few people have noticed the "problem" with ESLcafe and their selective censorship. http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/ESLCaf...-fraud-1287713, and http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/ESLCaf...-fraud-1287713 and http://www.esl-jobs-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7047

    I think they are not to be trusted to ever tell the truth.

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applic

    Quote Originally Posted by Meteor View Post
    EslCafe deletes and hides anything and everything that might give a person second thoughts about teaching in China. Here is just a sample of the important infomation they hide from people not just health risks like the toxic smog or hepatitis...

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    This is true, the mother of one TEFL teacher from China who died from Hepatitis C she contracted in Chinaposted her warning at ESL Cafe 3 times and was banned for complaining about the censorship. Much the same hsppened to a Barbara ******** a teacher who was raped in China,and then told she would lose her visa and she called the police because the rapist's father was a CFO for a huge State-owned company. ESL cafe hides anything and everything negative about China since they make money selling jobs there.

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    Re: Scam! ESLCafe.com hides China Hepatitis Health Risk From ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Applic

    I suggest you take a quick look at this before sending your resume to anyone in China: http://chinascamwatch.wordpress.com.

    Also this is a must reqad as well: https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...-etc-BLACKLIST

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