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    How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agents...



    Since 2013 the Chinese government has made it illegal for foreign internships in China to be purchased from third parties. They can only be legally obtained for free directly from International employers: http://www.balglobal.com/News/NewsDe...-Students.aspx

    But the law does not get in the way of the scammers who decided they could still make money if they got their customers to break the law outside of China where only the intern could be held legally accountable and punished - not them. So they now just tell their customers to lie on their visa applications which is actually a felony crime in almost every country. Read these two stories http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=110535 and http://www.isitlegalto.com/threads/4...d-amp-Deported!

    So the key to avoiding an arrest, fines, imprisonment and a felony conviction is simply to spot and avoid these shysters before you lose any money or lie to a visa officer. This is simple if you pay attention and realize that these scammers all use agents to protect themselves if something goes wrong. Many have used boiler rooms in The Philipines, Thailand, and Pakistan. You may not even know the real company you are dealing with until after you arrive in China. Gi2c for example has used three company names over the years and scores of foreign agents. No matter... simply ask 5 questions: https://chinablacklists.wordpress.co...keep-you-safe/

    If you are still confused after reading all these links, try this last one here http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/...thousands.html, and just remember they will only tell you what they want to know. It is YOUR responsibility to ask questions and VERIFY what you are told. Because once they have your money, they really don't care whether you have the right visa or not, or whether you sit in a Chinese jail for 30 days or 90 days. Don't be pushed or rushed into anything and if they tell you that there is a "deadline" or a "waiting list" just hang up and get your own internship legally here for free: http://freechinainternships.blogspot.ca Do not be fooled by wonderful testimonials and reviews or a fancy web site. These bums earn millions ever year and buy plenty of fake praise they will spoon feed once they have you on the hook.

    Last edited by Curious Carol; 10-30-2015 at 11:23 AM.

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    Re: How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agents...



    Any questions there Bruce?
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    Re: How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agents...

    Here are some first hand victim reports and even former employees dishing on these durable scam artists. I think it is time to start some scam-baiting with my 419 friends to slow these creeps down. http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...highlight=gi2c and also http://www.esl-jobs-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6992 and this recent one from the law forum http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/...orld-wide.html and my personal favorite...http://eslwatch.info/forum/china/117...re-people.html

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    Re: How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agents...

    All of you need to know that the owner of Gi2c and Getin2China (same scam) has a full time SEO/hacker guy that deletes negative information about his company posted on line and then posts a bunch of fluffy stuff and testimonials with the word "scam" embedded in the tag lines so it pushes most of the complaints down to pages 3-20 of Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc. where most eyeballs never travel. Generally people only look at the first or second pages of a search. But if you go deep enough you find stuff like this old post from 2010 when he was once again exposed as a fraud and had his friend Roddy tell everyone that all the complaints were from a "envious competitor" just like he did last year and again recently. The man is playing hide and seek with all the complaints people put on line. Do a thorough search for Gi2C, complaints,problems,reviews,scam and you will find the buried truth. http://eslwatch.info/eslwatch-forum/...l?limitstart=0

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    Re: How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agen

    Quote Originally Posted by Curious Carol View Post


    Since 2013 the Chinese government has made it illegal for foreign internships in China to be purchased from third parties. They can only be legally obtained for free directly from International employers: http://www.balglobal.com/News/NewsDe...-Students.aspx

    But the law does not get in the way of the scammers who decided they could still make money if they got their customers to break the law outside of China where only the intern could be held legally accountable and punished - not them. So they now just tell their customers to lie on their visa applications which is actually a felony crime in almost every country. Read these two stories http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=110535 and http://www.isitlegalto.com/threads/4...d-amp-Deported!

    So the key to avoiding an arrest, fines, imprisonment and a felony conviction is simply to spot and avoid these shysters before you lose any money or lie to a visa officer. This is simple if you pay attention and realize that these scammers all use agents to protect themselves if something goes wrong. Many have used boiler rooms in The Philipines, Thailand, and Pakistan. You may not even know the real company you are dealing with until after you arrive in China. Gi2c for example has used three company names over the years and scores of foreign agents. No matter... simply ask 5 questions: https://chinablacklists.wordpress.co...keep-you-safe/

    If you are still confused after reading all these links, try this last one here http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/...thousands.html, and just remember they will only tell you what they want to know. It is YOUR responsibility to ask questions and VERIFY what you are told. Because once they have your money, they really don't care whether you have the right visa or not, or whether you sit in a Chinese jail for 30 days or 90 days. Don't be pushed or rushed into anything and if they tell you that there is a "deadline" or a "waiting list" just hang up and get your own internship legally here for free: http://freechinainternships.blogspot.ca Do not be fooled by wonderful testimonials and reviews or a fancy web site. These bums earn millions ever year and buy plenty of fake praise they will spoon feed once they have you on the hook.

    Any updates Carol? What do you know about Cappex which operates the website interninchina.com???

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    Re: How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agen

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyber Snoop View Post
    All of you need to know that the owner of Gi2c and Getin2China (same scam) has a full time SEO/hacker guy that deletes negative information about his company posted on line and then posts a bunch of fluffy stuff and testimonials with the word "scam" embedded in the tag lines so it pushes most of the complaints down to pages 3-20 of Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc. where most eyeballs never travel. Generally people only look at the first or second pages of a search. But if you go deep enough you find stuff like this old post from 2010 when he was once again exposed as a fraud and had his friend Roddy tell everyone that all the complaints were from a "envious competitor" just like he did last year and again recently. The man is playing hide and seek with all the complaints people put on line. Do a thorough search for Gi2C, complaints,problems,reviews,scam and you will find the buried truth. http://eslwatch.info/eslwatch-forum/...l?limitstart=0

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    No wonder they get away with boasting so much about themselves on the internet. If anyone has a negative comment it will just be hacked away. Quite convenient. Google "Winnie Maliko, internship, China" for an example of what I am talking about.

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    Re: How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agen

    Don't worry, the CFTU is already taking action against these guys. Just this week they raided a badposting mill-type ESL school and arrested 9 teachers they said. I hope the guys from the CSP got to knock some heads cause they deserve EVERYTHING they got!

    Finally SOMEBODY is acting to help us. That's why people joined so they can finally get the respect they deserve!




    www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com
    www.chinascamwatch.com
    www.chinafraudpatrol.blogspot.com

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    Re: How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agen

    Quote Originally Posted by Damn The Torpedos! View Post
    No wonder they get away with boasting so much about themselves on the internet. If anyone has a negative comment it will just be hacked away. Quite convenient. Google "Winnie Maliko, internship, China" for an example of what I am talking about.
    There are similar stories being told recently at Reddit.com at these these links below and the one at china scam central about fake reviews is excellent.

    http://reddit.com/r/internships
    http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral
    http://reddit.com/r/tefl_esl_scams


    And here is a bit of good news IMO, http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/china-...re-always-free


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    Re: How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agen

    Quote Originally Posted by golly-gee-whiz! View Post
    There are similar stories being told recently at Reddit.com at these these links below and the one at china scam central about fake reviews is excellent.

    http://reddit.com/r/internships
    http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral
    http://reddit.com/r/tefl_esl_scams


    And here is a bit of good news IMO, http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/china-...re-always-free


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    TBH... we don't have these problems on Zenix12. Teachers are respected and honored as scholars there. http://www.scamalot.com/ScamTipReports/86021. Come for a visit sometime but bring chocolate and TP for the locals! You will not want to go back to polluted and corrupted Earth. Zenix12 is scam-free! The 789 Bus leaves Dongzhimen station every morning at 2:00am (no pets but drunk blondes are allowed)



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    Re: How To Spot & Avoid Clever China Internships Scams Like Gi2c And Their Many Proxy Agen

    Quote Originally Posted by golly-gee-whiz! View Post
    There are similar stories being told recently at Reddit.com at these these links below and the one at china scam central about fake reviews is excellent.

    http://reddit.com/r/internships
    http://reddit.com/r/chinascamcentral
    http://reddit.com/r/tefl_esl_scams


    And here is a bit of good news IMO, http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/china-...re-always-free


    ,

    We never have these sort of problems on my planet. http://scamalot.com/ScamTipReports/86021. On Zenix 12 Teachers are honored and respected as scholars and scams are prohibited. You guys should stop by for a visit and bring chocolate and TP for the locals as gifts! You will be welcomed and worshiped. (no pets, but large-breasted, drunk blondes are welcome). We now also have a huge demand for dancing instructors who earn more than 20 galupas per hour. Special buses leave Dongzhimen station in Beijing every morning at 2am. Be sure to stand clear of all power lines on the big blue "X" and shout "I'm ready to go" (please be patient - our bus drivers are not the brightest guys in the world and sometimes pick up the wrong passengers. Wearing an orange T-Shirt and tin-foil hat will help speed up the transfer and avoid confusion).

    Last edited by Ma Fan; 04-29-2017 at 06:32 PM.

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