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    Bush nominates Alito

    Figures. This guy is right of Scalia, if that is possible. Another victory for the radical right wing which has hijacked the Republican Party.

    Updated: 6:52 a.m. ET Oct. 31, 2005

    WASHINGTON - President Bush is nominating Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court, The Associated Press has learned, choosing a long-time federal judge embraced by judicial conservatives to replace retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

    Bush plans to announce the nomination at 8 a.m. EST, officials said.

    The choice likely will mend a rift in the Republican Party caused by his failed nomination of Harriet Miers.
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    Miers bowed out last Thursday after three weeks of bruising criticism from members of Bush's own party who argued that the Texas lawyer and loyal Bush confidant had thin credentials on constitutional law and no proven record as a judicial conservative.

    The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to preview Bush's remarks, said Alito was virtually certain to get the nod from the moment Miers backed out.

    The 55-year-old jurist was Bush's favorite choice of the judges in the last set of deliberations but he settled instead on someone outside what he calls the "judicial monastery," the officials said.

    Bush believes that Alito has not only the right experience and conservative ideology for the job, but he also has a temperament suited to building consensus on the court. A former prosecutor, Alito has experience off the bench that factored into Bush's thinking, the officials said.

    Democrats warn of partisan brawl
    While Alito is expected to win praise from Bush's allies on the right, Democrats have served notice that his nomination would spark a partisan brawl. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said Sunday that Alito's nomination would "create a lot of problems."

    Unlike Miers, who has never been a judge, Alito, a 55-year-old jurist from New Jersey, has been a strong conservative voice on the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals since former President George H.W. Bush seated him there in 1990.

    So consistently conservative, Alito has been dubbed "Scalito" or "Scalia-lite" by some lawyers because his judicial philosophy invites comparisons to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. But while Scalia is outspoken and is known to badger lawyers, Alito is polite, reserved and even-tempered.
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    Re: Bush nominates Alito

    Well, let the fillabustering begin. It's not like he isn't already getting enough scrutiny as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bairdi
    Figures. This guy is right of Scalia, if that is possible. Another victory for the radical right wing which has hijacked the Republican Party.
    Do you hear the warm up music? The 'conservo happy dance' is about to begin.

    As far as Alito being a constitutionalist that will interpret not legislate, this is something that both sides should insist upon. Also, he will not pick out tid-bits of laws from foreign countries to write his opinions. You should be happy on this nomination bacardi! :cool:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sojustask
    Well, let the fillabustering begin. It's not like he isn't already getting enough scrutiny as it is.

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    Fillabuster welcomed-----not the "appearance" of a fillibuster, it will need to be a Mr. Smith fillabuster. No bathroom breaks or nothin' 24/7.

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    October 31, 2005
    Parties Set Stage for Showdown on Court Choice
    By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

    WASHINGTON, Oct. 30 - With the announcement of a new Supreme Court nominee expected as early as Monday, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, warned President Bush on Sunday not to pick one of the candidates said to be on the president's short list, Judge Samuel A. Alito Jr.

    "I think it would create a lot of problems," Mr. Reid said on "Late Edition" on CNN.

    Republicans close to the selection process said over the weekend that as Mr. Bush neared a final decision, Judge Alito, of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, remained a leading candidate, along with Judge J. Michael Luttig of the Fourth Circuit, Judge Alice M. Batchelder of the Sixth Circuit, and Judge Priscilla R. Owen of the Fifth Circuit.

    One outside adviser to the White House said on Sunday that a surprise was still possible. But prominent conservatives said all four have the kind of clear record and judicial credentials they are hoping for in a Supreme Court nominee, and liberal groups are girding for battle to oppose them.

    Mr. Reid had already said he would object to the selection of Judge Luttig or Judge Owen. And on Sunday, he did not rule out the possibility that Democrats would try to block a nominee by a filibuster or refusing to close debate and vote. "We are going to do everything we can" to see that the president names "somebody that's really good," Mr. Reid said.

    But Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, fired back Sunday, saying that if the Democrats staged a filibuster against Judge Alito or Judge Luttig because of their conservatism, "the filibuster will not stand."

    Mr. Graham's warning was significant because he played a crucial role earlier this year in helping block a Republican effort to change the Senate rules - known as the nuclear option - so that Democrats could not filibuster judicial nominees. His comments on Sunday indicated that this time, he would support that rule change; Democrats have threatened to retaliate with a battle that could snarl Senate business for months.

    Both sides are on edge in anticipation. "There's a lot of anxiety," Senator Arlen Specter, the Pennsylvania Republican and chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said on "Late Edition." "There could be a real tough battle here and a real tough fight, depending on whom the president puts up."

    Mr. Specter said he was "very worried" about the possibility of a filibuster. "The topic which dominates the discussion, as we all know, is a woman's right to choose," said the senator, who supports abortion rights.

    He continued: "You have both sides poles apart, and insistent on finding some answer to that question in advance of the hearing, which no one is entitled to. Guarantees are for used cars and washing machines, not Supreme Court justices."

    Trying again to name a second Supreme Court justice presents a rare opportunity for Mr. Bush to revitalize his political base and to put his mark on the court at a time when the White House is besieged.

    Polls show Mr. Bush's popularity at a new low. American casualties continue to mount in Iraq, the president's domestic agenda is in limbo, and the White House is reeling from the indictment of I. Lewis Libby Jr., a top aide, a day after the withdrawal of Mr. Bush's previous Supreme Court nominee, Harriet E. Miers.

    But because the nominee would succeed Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who was the swing vote on abortion rights and other social issues, any pick that pleased conservatives would most likely meet ferocious resistance from the left. The withdrawal of Ms. Miers has emboldened the left and the right to step up their demands, and a second failed pick will only compound the pressure.

    On Sunday, Senator Reid and other Democrats sought to capitalize on the president's political vulnerabilities as he picked a nominee.

    "If he wants to divert attention from all of his many problems, he can send us somebody that is going to create a lot of problems," Mr. Reid said. "I think this time he would be ill advised to do that. But the right wing, the radical right wing, is pushing a lot of his buttons, and he may just go along with them."

    Unlike Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. or Ms. Miers, all the potential nominees said to be on Mr. Bush's short list have judicial records indicating at least a narrower view of the Constitution's protection for abortion rights than positions taken by Justice O'Connor.

    A Democratic filibuster of a Supreme Court nominee would take the Senate back to a standoff that gripped the chamber earlier this year, after Democrats used the tactic to block several of the president's appeals court nominees.

    The Democratic minority was able to hold up the confirmations because Senate rules allow a group of at least 41 senators to block a vote.

    To overcome them, Senator Bill Frist, the Republican leader, threatened to call for a simple majority vote that could change the rules and eliminate the tactic. The ensuing threats and counterthreats set off national advertising and lobbying campaigns by interest groups who saw it as a proxy for a battle over a potential Supreme Court confirmation.

    In the final hour before the showdown, Senator Graham and Senator Mike DeWine, Republican of Ohio - both opponents of abortion rights who had previously said they would vote for the rule change - averted the showdown by joining five other Republicans and seven Democrats in a bipartisan deal to block both the rule change and additional filibusters except in "extraordinary circumstances."

    The group, which has become known as the Gang of 14, left the definition of "extraordinary" to each of its members.

    On Sunday, Mr. Graham made clear that he would oppose filibusters of Judge Alito or Judge Luttig. The president campaigned on a promise to appoint conservatives to the court, and "you're going to get a strong conservative," Mr. Graham said in an interview on the CBS program "Face the Nation."

    The Republicans have a majority of 55 senators. If three or more Democrats break from the group to support a filibuster, Mr. Graham and Mr. DeWine could give the Republicans enough votes to force the rule change.

    Still, it was never certain how many Republicans would vote for the rule change. And the decline in the popularity of the president since then weakens his ability to rally public opinion against the Democrats as "obstructionists."

    Combining the uncertainty in the Senate with the president's other political problems makes the choice of his next Supreme Court nominee a delicate balancing act, said Charlie Cook, editor of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.

    "He needs a fight that would help re-energize the conservative Republican base," Mr. Cook said. "But at the same time he can't afford a loss. He is in a profoundly weakened condition, and a loss on top of everything else that has happened all year would be terrible."

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    Looks like Bush has gone from one extreme (no judicial experience) to the other (15 years of experience)!... and a favorite of "Daddy's"... imagine that.. :rolleyes:

    It seems to me that Bush blew this opportunity for much needed "damage control" here. I really expected him to come back with someone who would be viewed as "party friendly". It becomes more obvious everyday that he DOES NOT have the interest of the American people on his agenda. The more conservative, the better... He made no effort here to unite us - instead, he has chosen someone who will satisfy his own political party. What a shame...... :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connecticut Victim
    Looks like Bush has gone from one extreme (no judicial experience) to the other (15 years of experience)!... and a favorite of "Daddy's"... imagine that.. :rolleyes:

    It seems to me that Bush blew this opportunity for much needed "damage control" here. I really expected him to come back with someone who would be viewed as "party friendly". It becomes more obvious everyday that he DOES NOT have the interest of the American people on his agenda. The more conservative, the better... He made no effort here to unite us - instead, he has chosen someone who will satisfy his own political party. What a shame...... :(
    hey Conn Victim, I hate Bush as much as the other 49% of teh country, but unfortunately teh Soutehrn states with their republican conservatives screwed the US and gave Bush a mandate to do what he wants...its called a re election. So "satisfying party lines" as you call it, or Uniting the country is the LAST thing on his mind.


    think about it.....you are Bush and you just managed to get by 4 years of Presidency while catching a lot of flack. then you get RE ELECTED. that tells you you can continue doing what you want. why would he try to satisfy the country and unite people, he can obviosuly do what he wants with 51% of teh people backing him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umdkook
    hey Conn Victim, I hate Bush as much as the other 49% of teh country, but unfortunately teh Soutehrn states with their republican conservatives screwed the US and gave Bush a mandate to do what he wants...its called a re election. So "satisfying party lines" as you call it, or Uniting the country is the LAST thing on his mind.


    think about it.....you are Bush and you just managed to get by 4 years of Presidency while catching a lot of flack. then you get RE ELECTED. that tells you you can continue doing what you want. why would he try to satisfy the country and unite people, he can obviosuly do what he wants with 51% of teh people backing him up.
    Yeah, I know umdkook. But the thing is, he COULD unite this country if he wanted to...

    His supporters will follow his lead, no matter what it is. You know they don't think for themselves - they just sit back and do, think, or say whatever HE tells them is the "right" thing. So if HE took a UNITED STANCE - this 51% you speak of would tag along right behind him.... :rolleyes:

    But, you're right, it's his show...

    Bush has (and will continue) to do WHAT he wants, WHEN he wants, with total disregard for the ramifications of his actions.. Republicans support this.

    He chooses to persue the divide that exsists in this country... Republicans support this.

    It's a disgusting display of abuse of power and illegal activity that is ruining the reputation of our country... Republicans support this.

    It's sickening.

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    Drudge is crying racial discrimination over the usage of "Scalito." That doesn't make any sense since Scalia is their hero. This was a purely politically motivated pick so Bush could save face with his base. Not unexpected after all of his problems. Listening to all the hypocrites now say he deserves an up or down vote after they savaged Harriet Miers is laughable, but they have short memories. I thought Miers was a crony pick of the highest order, but as I've often been told by those wanting to put an extreme ideologue on the bench: "elections have consequences." They only have consequences when Bush picks the person of their choice.

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    This is a collection of some of the stupidest , least informed knee-jerk statements I have ever read on this board , and that is saying something. First of all, conservatives are the base of the Republican Party. This guy is not a controversial choice to Republicans. Second, the party in power gets to nominate Supreme Court justices. I know ya don't like it, but there you are. Don't EVER forget that clinton put that maggot on the court who was pres of the aclu!! Third, what could possibly matter less than harry fvcking reids opinion.

    A chance to bring the country together??? That means nominate the liberals choice or you are dividing the country. You know what? Suck it up. Win an election if you want more liberals on the high court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    This is a collection of some of the stupidest , least informed knee-jerk statements I have ever read on this board , and that is saying something. First of all, conservatives are the base of the Republican Party. This guy is not a controversial choice to Republicans. Second, the party in power gets to nominate Supreme Court justices. I know ya don't like it, but there you are. Don't EVER forget that clinton put that maggot on the court who was pres of the aclu!! Third, what could possibly matter less than harry fvcking reids opinion.

    A chance to bring the country together??? That means nominate the liberals choice or you are dividing the country. You know what? Suck it up. Win an election if you want more liberals on the high court.
    Where have you been while Republicans have been decrying the damage to the party and the nation as a whole by the legislation, policy and highly suspect warfare being advanced by the mk-ultra-idiotic Christian 'Moral
    Majority'.

    But then you probably have your car festooned with bumper stickers and magnets campaigning for Bush and his wars that you paid full retail price at a gas station/convenience store owned by a subsidized central Asian who is bringing boatloads of Made in China 'marketing merchandise' to sell to the upscale mobile bozo (DEVICEHIGH DEVICE C:HIGH=DOS, UMB?) that is the evolved, 21ST Century YUPPIE plugged-in to the Internet VIA AN XP BOX TOP.

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    Do not worry...Republicans and Conservatives are just fine. We appreciate your concern...grab a mint on the way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    This is a collection of some of the stupidest , least informed knee-jerk statements I have ever read on this board , and that is saying something. First of all, conservatives are the base of the Republican Party. This guy is not a controversial choice to Republicans. Second, the party in power gets to nominate Supreme Court justices. I know ya don't like it, but there you are.
    Yes pwrone, I believe we are all well aware of the fact that the party in power does the nominating. Of course Alito is not controversial among your party - Bush MADE SURE to choose someone this time around that you would all approve of... wasn't that nice of him??.. We get the message here pwrone.... you, your Republican cronies and that moron in the White House couldn't care less about uniting this country. You are all on a power trip that is ruining this nation and you don't give a fvck what anybody outside of your circle thinks or says about it... you're pathetic - all of you.

    Don't EVER forget that clinton put that maggot on the court who was pres of the aclu!!
    Hey DeeDee... See how Clinton's name got brought into this by pwrone in defense of Bush?? He does it all the time! LMAO - so typical... :D

    Third, what could possibly matter less than harry fvcking reids opinion.
    No one else's opinion matters pwrone... WE GET IT... But sadly for you, everyone has the right to say what they think... DAMN that 1st amendment, huh?... :rolleyes:

    A chance to bring the country together??? That means nominate the liberals choice or you are dividing the country. You know what? Suck it up. Win an election if you want more liberals on the high court.
    No... that means nominate someone who will vote on issues objectively. This guy comes with a history of being anti-abortion, which is the #1 issue on your plate. I'm sure you were thrilled to see him get nominated.

    Let's see who sucks when the '06 elections roll around... and when Fitzgerald's investigation leads to an indictment of Rove, a resignation from Cheney and leads back to WHY the war was started... :eek:

    I'm a patient person with all this - good things come to those wait. :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    Do not worry...Republicans and Conservatives are just fine. We appreciate your concern...grab a mint on the way out.

    boy am i glad nobody forces me to take the 'medications' you use -- i never knew they prescribed ones that promote delusional thinking.

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    Yes pwrone, I believe we are all well aware of the fact that the party in power does the nominating. Of course Alito is not controversial among your party - Bush MADE SURE to choose someone this time around that you would all approve of... wasn't that nice of him??.. We get the message here pwrone.... you, your Republican cronies and that moron in the White House couldn't care less about uniting this country. You are all on a power trip that is ruining this nation and you don't give a fvck what anybody outside of your circle thinks or says about it... you're pathetic - all of you.


    Hey DeeDee... See how Clinton's name got brought into this by pwrone in defense of Bush?? He does it all the time! LMAO - so typical... :D


    No one else's opinion matters pwrone... WE GET IT... But sadly for you, everyone has the right to say what they think... DAMN that 1st amendment, huh?... :rolleyes:


    No... that means nominate someone who will vote on issues objectively. This guy comes with a history of being anti-abortion, which is the #1 issue on your plate. I'm sure you were thrilled to see him get nominated.

    Let's see who sucks when the '06 elections roll around... and when Fitzgerald's investigation leads to an indictment of Rove, a resignation from Cheney and leads back to WHY the war was started... :eek:

    I'm a patient person with all this - good things come to those wait. :p
    You are mistaken about his abortion opinions and lying about mine.

    Sorry to break it to you but it is sometimes useful to look to earlier presidential decisions to frame and develop perspective on todays. I know the mere thought of that fat, disgraced, impeached, disbarred bastard makes you sick, but occasionally he becomes relevant--if only for a moment. Much as you might not like it, clintons nomination of ginsburg is the partisan nomination against which all others must be measured. She was on the board of directors of the aclu and it's chief attorney for almost a decade. For Bush to nominate a jurist of equal divisiveness, he would have to find a nazi or klansman. You will be hearing a lot about ginsburg in the near future...because of bidens fawning, foot-licking 'style' of questioning during her hearings for the high court, no one is now required to answer any questions about personal beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    You are mistaken about his abortion opinions
    You will get just what you have been hoping for with this guy IF he gets confirmed with regards to abortion...

    and lying about mine.
    When did you have such a huge change of heart pwrone? I didn't know you had changed your mind on abortion issues, sorry...

    Sorry to break it to you but it is sometimes useful to look to earlier presidential decisions to frame and develop perspective on todays. I know the mere thought of that fat, disgraced, impeached, disbarred bastard makes you sick, but occasionally he becomes relevant--if only for a moment. Much as you might not like it, clintons nomination of ginsburg is the partisan nomination against which all others must be measured. She was on the board of directors of the aclu and it's chief attorney for almost a decade. For Bush to nominate a jurist of equal divisiveness, he would have to find a nazi or klansman. You will be hearing a lot about ginsburg in the near future...because of bidens fawning, foot-licking 'style' of questioning during her hearings for the high court, no one is now required to answer any questions about personal beliefs.
    Totally unlike you are with Bush pwrone, I have no problem admitting that Clinton did things while in office that he should not have done.. I have never made excuses for him. So you calling him names has no affect on me what so ever.. knock yourself out. ;)

    As far as Ginsberg is concerned... it's the Senate's fault for letting her not answer questions. But she sure seemed pretty well liked when it came time for them to vote:

    "The U.S. Senate confirmed her by a 96 to 3 vote and she took her seat on August 10, 1993".

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