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    Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Here is a possibility.

    Satan was unhappy with two religions, Christianity and Judaism, beginning to dominate the Middle East and Europe. What could he do?

    One day Satan decided to put a pitchfork into those religions. It was a means by which Satan could get back at his nemesis God (OT Lord) who had tossed him from heaven. Satan came up with a plan. He found the perfect man, Muhammad, an ambitious warlord with a cruel streak. Surely, he would spread the word and even fight for his new religion. Satan went into a cave where Muhammad was resting. There he showed his bright angelic body pretending to be Gabriel, one of God's angels. Mohammed was overwhelmed and listened with attentiveness to Satan's words. Allah would be the God of many people. Muhammad and his followers would write down Satan's new religion in the Quran, a book to compete with the Bible and other Jewish holy books. This new religion would reflect Satan's evil nature: cruelty, murder, destruction, control, cunning, and absolute loyalty; with extraordinary rewards of sex with beautiful virgins, wealth, companionship, and contentment in heavenly paradise.

    What do you think?
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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Here is a possibility.

    Satan was unhappy with two religions, Christianity and Judaism, beginning to dominate the Middle East and Europe. What could he do?

    One day Satan decided to put a pitchfork into those religions. It was a means by which Satan could get back at his nemesis God (OT Lord) who had tossed him from heaven. Satan came up with a plan. He found the perfect man, Muhammad, an ambitious warlord with a cruel streak. Surely, he would spread the word and even fight for his new religion. Satan went into a cave where Muhammad was resting. There he showed his bright angelic body pretending to be Gabriel, one of God's angels. Mohammed was overwhelmed and listened with attentiveness to Satan's words. Allah would be the God of many people. Muhammad and his followers would write down Satan's new religion in the Quran, a book to compete with the Bible and other Jewish holy books. This new religion would reflect Satan's evil nature: cruelty, murder, destruction, control, cunning, and absolute loyalty; with extraordinary rewards of sex with beautiful virgins, wealth, companionship, and contentment in heavenly paradise.

    What do you think?
    ...............did you have ANOTHER dream!?:yelcutelaughA: :crazy1::chicken::
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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

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    ...............did you have ANOTHER dream!?:yelcutelaughA: :crazy1::chicken::
    No, I haven't had a dream since last year. It is my opinion based on the Quran and what Muslims say and do. Christianity and Judaism are enemies of Islam, and yet they claim to have the same tradition as the Bible. However, if you read their holy book you will find Allah is at war with Christians and Jews. Why is that? Just for the record, here are some of the versus from the Quran that declare Christians and Jews to be infidels. Mostly, they declare Allah to be God, not the OT Lord. If you want evidence, read the Quran. It is possible it all began when Satan decided to created a new religion, one opposed to Christians and Jews, in order to attack God's chosen people. At all costs, Satan is determined to cause chaos in the world.

    2.88] And they say: Our hearts are covered. Nay, Allah has cursed them on account of their unbelief; so little it is that they believe.

    2.98] Whoever is the enemy of Allah and His angels and His apostles and Jibreel and Meekaeel, so surelyAllah is the enemy of the unbelievers.

    [2.113] And the Jews say: The Christians do not follow anything (good) and the Christians say: The Jews do not follow anything (good) while they recite the (same) Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so Allah shall judge between them on the day of resurrection in what they differ.

    [2.120] And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper.

    [2.140] Nay! do you say that Ibrahim and Ismail and Yaqoub and the tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Are you better knowing or Allah? And who is more unjust than he who conceals a testimony that he has from Allah? And Allah is not at all heedless of what you do.

    [3.23] Have you not considered those (Jews) who are given a portion of the Book? They are invited to the Book of Allah that it might decide between them, then a part of them turn back and they withdraw.

    [2.211] Ask the Israelites how many a clear sign have We given them; and whoever changes the favor of Allah after it has come to him, then surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil).

    [2.246] Have you not considered the chiefs of the children of Israel after Musa, when they said to a prophet of theirs: Raise up for us a king, (that) we may fight in the way of Allah. He said: May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

    [3.49] And (make him) an apostle to the children of Israel: That I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I determine for you out of dust like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird with Allah's permission and I heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah's permission and I inform you of what you should eat and what you should store in your houses; most surely there is a sign in this for you, if you are believers.

    [3.67] Ibrahim was not a Jew nor a Christian but he was (an) upright (man), a Muslim, and he was not one of the polytheists.

    [4.46] Of those who are Jews (there are those who) alter words from their places and say: We have heard and we disobey and: Hear, may you not be made to hear! and: Raina, distorting (the word) with their tongues and taunting about religion; and if they had said (instead): We have heard and we obey, and hearken, and unzurna it would have been better for them and more upright; but Allah has cursed them on account of their unbelief, so they do not believe but a little.

    [4.47] O you who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed.

    [4.160] Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah's way.

    [5.12] And certainly Allah made a covenant with the children of Israel, and We raised up among them twelve chieftains; and Allah said: Surely I am with you; if you keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and believe in My apostles and assist them and offer to Allah a goodly gift, I will most certainly cover your evil deeds, and I will most certainly cause you to enter into gardens beneath which rivers flow, but whoever disbelieves from among you after that, he indeed shall lose the right way.

    [5.13] But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard; they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others).

    5.18] And the Jews and the Christians say: We are the sons of Allah and His beloved ones. Say: Why does He then chastise you for your faults? Nay, you are mortals from among those whom He has created, He forgives whom He pleases and chastises whom He pleases; and Allah's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them, and to Him is the eventual coming.

    [5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

    [5.41] O Apostle! let not those grieve you who strive together in hastening to unbelief from among those who say with their mouths: We believe, and their hearts do not believe, and from among those who are Jews; they are listeners for the sake of a lie, listeners for another people who have not come to you; they alter the words from their places, saying: If you are given this, take it, and if you are not given this, be cautious; and as for him whose temptation Allah desires, you cannot control anything for him with Allah. Those are they for whom Allah does not desire that He should purify their hearts; they shall have disgrace in this world, and they shall have a grievous chastisement in the hereafter.

    5.42] (They are) listeners of a lie, devourers of what is forbidden; therefore if they come to you, judge between them or turn aside from them, and if you turn aside from them, they shall not harm you in any way; and if you judge, judge between them with equity; surely Allah loves those who judge equitably.

    [5.43] And how do they make you a judge and they have the Taurat wherein is Allah's judgment? Yet they turn back after that, and these are not the believers.

    [5.44] Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light; with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews, and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof; therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My communications; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the unbelievers.

    [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

    [5:57] O you who believe! do not take for guardians those who take your religion for a mockery and a joke, from among those who were given the Book before you and the unbelievers; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah if you are believers.

    [5.59] Say: O followers of the Book! do you find fault with us (for aught) except that we believe in Allah and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed before, and that most of you are transgressors?

    [5.60] Say: Shall I inform you of (him who is) worse than this in retribution from Allah? (Worse is he) whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and he who served the Shaitan; these are worse in place and more erring from the straight path.

    [5.63] Why do not the learned men [rabbis] and the doctors of law prohibit them from their speaking of what is sinful and their eating of what is unlawfully acquired? Certainly evil is that which they work.

    [5.64] And the Jews say: The hand of Allah is tied up! Their hands shall be shackled and they shall be cursed for what they say. Nay, both His hands are spread out, He expends as He pleases; and what has been revealed to you from your Lord will certainly make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; and We have put enmity and hatred among them till the day of resurrection; whenever they kindle a fire for war Allah puts it out, and they strive to make mischief in the land; and Allah does not love the mischief-makers.

    [5.69] Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve.

    [5.70] Certainly We made a covenant with the children of Israel and We sent to them apostles; whenever there came to them an apostle with what that their souls did not desire, some (of them) did they call liars and some they slew.

    [5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.

    [5.73] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one God, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve.

    [5.78] Those who disbelieved from among the children of Israel were cursed by the tongue of Dawood and Isa, son of Marium; this was because they disobeyed and used to exceed the limit.

    [5.79] They used not to forbid each other the hateful things (which) they did; certainly evil was that which they did.

    [5.80] You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.

    [5.81] And had they believed in Allah and the prophet and what was revealed to him, they would not have taken them for friends but! most of them are transgressors.

    [5.82] Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.

    [5.86] And (as for) those who disbelieve and reject Our communications, these are the companions of the flame.

    [5.110] When Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! Remember My favor on you and on your mother, when I strengthened you I with the holy Spirit, you spoke to the people in the cradle and I when of old age, and when I taught you the Book and the wisdom and the Taurat and the Injeel; and when you determined out of clay a thing like the form of a bird by My permission, then you breathed into it and it became a bird by My permission, and you healed the blind and the leprous by My permission; and when you brought forth the dead by My permission; and when I withheld the children of Israel from you when you came to them with clear arguments, but those who disbelieved among them

    [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

    [9:34] O you who believe! most surely many of the doctors of law [rabbis] and the monks eat away the property of men falsely, and turn (them) from Allah's way; and (as for) those who hoard up gold and silver and do not spend it in Allah's way, announce to them a painful chastisement....
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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Here is a possibility.

    Satan was unhappy with two religions, Christianity and Judaism, beginning to dominate the Middle East and Europe. What could he do?

    One day Satan decided to put a pitchfork into those religions. It was a means by which Satan could get back at his nemesis God (OT Lord) who had tossed him from heaven. Satan came up with a plan. He found the perfect man, Muhammad, an ambitious warlord with a cruel streak. Surely, he would spread the word and even fight for his new religion. Satan went into a cave where Muhammad was resting. There he showed his bright angelic body pretending to be Gabriel, one of God's angels. Mohammed was overwhelmed and listened with attentiveness to Satan's words. Allah would be the God of many people. Muhammad and his followers would write down Satan's new religion in the Quran, a book to compete with the Bible and other Jewish holy books. This new religion would reflect Satan's evil nature: cruelty, murder, destruction, control, cunning, and absolute loyalty; with extraordinary rewards of sex with beautiful virgins, wealth, companionship, and contentment in heavenly paradise.

    What do you think?
    Here is another possibility.

    Cnance has finally flipped out.


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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    ...............did you have ANOTHER dream!?:yelcutelaughA: :crazy1::chicken::
    Exactly!! That was my question after reading his threadstarter. rofl
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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    Exactly!! That was my question after reading his threadstarter. rofl
    What's wrong with dreams? You've explained yours in the past!

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    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    What's wrong with dreams? You've explained yours in the past!

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    It wasn't a dream, it was a reality, idiot.
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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    It wasn't a dream, it was a reality, idiot.
    Oh yeah, you were one of the guys on the bottom.

    Originally Posted by ohein56
    I just got tired of it. 'Prospecting' in general, lost it's luster. I wasn't enthused about it (MLM), or the process any more.

    TBH, over all, it MLM/DS, turned into a source of embarrassment for me, all in all.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Oh yeah, you were one of the guys on the bottom.
    In MLM, everyone starts at the bottom. Don't u know that? Gawd what a tool u r...
    As long as it is acceptable for a person to beLIEve that he knows how god wants everyone on Earth to live, we will continue to murder one another on account of our myths. ~ Sam Harris, 'The End Of Faith'
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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    In MLM, everyone starts at the bottom. Don't u know that? Gawd what a tool u r...
    But you never left the bottom. :rasta:
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    But you never left the bottom. :rasta:
    I thought you were keeping the unverified claims in the MLM area?!

    So, you know this to be true, HOW? Liar
    ...
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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    I thought you were keeping the unverified claims in the MLM area?!

    So, you know this to be true, HOW? Liar
    ...
    Off topic, but since you asked......

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    Lie...I didn't hit any home runs, but in the end, I learned a lot, met some FASCINATING people, & had some fun. Sure, I wish I'd have done better but, it is what it is. I have NO REGRETS.

    I still love the idea of MLM, the application of the ideal has fallen short more often than not, sadly...jbh
    Originally Posted by ohein56
    I just got tired of it. 'Prospecting' in general, lost it's luster. I wasn't enthused about it (MLM), or the process any more.

    TBH, over all, it MLM/DS, turned into a source of embarrassment for me, all in all.
    Originally Posted by ohein56
    Yep, double digits is right.

    For the first fifteen years in DS I 'failed' to make a 'net' profit
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Off topic, but since you asked......
    You started the off topic in post #6, Joe.

    Unless maybe you believe satan invented MLM???

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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Off topic, but since you asked......
    So, where's your proof!

    All u have is theory and conjecture there.

    Nice try though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazza. View Post
    You started the off topic in post #6, Joe.

    Unless maybe you believe satan invented MLM???
    I didn't have any dreams about it. LOL
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Did Satan Invent Allah?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    So, where's your proof!

    All u have is theory and conjecture there.

    Nice try though.
    Your OWN statements are not proof of what you said? Your direct statements of your experience is theory and conjecture?
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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