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    Le Vel Thrive

    Other than the hype and compensation on this MLM, has anyone been able to dig up any solid evidence for or against this companies products?

    There are a few things I find questionable, the amount of caffeine and the willow bark to name 2. The compensation plan is nothing new. The stuff is way too

    expensive. There were always some very good people on this forum who could provide solid evidence on the pros and cons of these products. So, I'm asking

    if anyone has done any research on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    I read your post and decided to take a look at the product. Who doesn't want to be healthy, both physically, mentally and have your weight right where you want it.
    There is so much controversy over vitamins and supplements. I think the only way you can know, if you yourself will benefit the way you want, is to try the product you're interested in after researching the ingredients.

    I find it disturbing this company doesn't tell you how much of each ingredient is contained in the product. I was going to look up each ingredient and see what I could find and I found this article and info that gives a lot of information about each ingredient. Without knowing the ingredient amount it makes it impossible to know how your body may react. I took another look after reading a neg. review and see the amount of each ingredient is listed. Not sure what the reviewer was saying by complaining about the amount of each ingredient not being listed. I'll research this further.

    A lot of bad reviews and you never know if a reviewer is being honest or not. People have different motivations for giving a review.

    Here's the article and information on Le Vel Thrive
    http://healthycompare.com/diet-pills...#customers-all

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    https://media.le-vel.com/Documents/THRV003.pdf
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129145/

    My personal opinion is you would have to try this product to know how you yourself would respond to these ingredients. I don't see this as a scam but I do see that not everyone would benefit from taking this and this product could give you negative results.

    In the past I tried a Kava product to try and relieve stress. The pill had a lot of natural supplements along with Kava. The only thing the pill did for me was leave me a little sick to my stomach.

    Sometimes having a good experience with a product like this Le Vel Thrive can have a lot to do with a person having a more positive outlook because they feel what they are taking to improve their health and weight really will work or is working. The psychological impact of getting involved with the program, people and product may give you positive results.

    This product is pretty new so more studies may show us more positives and negatives about the ingredients.
    I would like to add always talk to your doctor before taking any vitamin or supplement. It is dangerous to just try any supplement before speaking to a physician. Remember supplements are not regulated so they could have literally anything ion them.

    http://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySuppl...ts/default.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    I wonder how many doctors would be willing to evaluate this product.

    I bought a product for cataracts to treat one of my dogs. I took this product to his veterinarian and the doctor wouldn't even take the time to look at it. Just ignored my request. The doctor is an eye doctor and is treating my dog and my dog had surgery and I have spent thousands for his eye surgery and treatment. We did save some of his sight.

    You read that doctors won't give you valid information about vitamins and supplements because they want you to have them treat you and prescribe medications.
    I would make sure to get a doctor who would take the time to sit down and answer my questions. It takes some time but finding a good doctor is priceless.

    Over 2,000 people are killed or seriously injured every year from supplements.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/su...upplements.ece

    And when I say you cannot be sure what is in them that is true:

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/0...-inquiry/?_r=0

    I am not anti supplement as much as I would love to see them regulated and held to the standards of other medicines. It is scary when you have no idea what is really in something you are taking.

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    There are those who will remember me from when I was an admin and moderator here, and they will most likely remember that I used to be in MLM. Now I'm not ever planning on going back to it. I once felt like you, try it and see how it works. Live and let live, etc... But for the last 7 years I have worked for two different physicians. A year with an acupuncturist and the last 6 in a chiropractic/regular medical clinic. Recently a patient came in with a dramatic change to his appearance and a story. A little less than a year ago this guy has a heart attack. When he came in about a month ago he's 50 lbs lighter, tanned and feeling great. Gives a lot of the credit to H9 water, lifestyle changes and Thrive products. And I don't doubt they helped him but, he made those key lifestyle changes. Backed off from running so many companies, exercise and diet changes. What sane people do when they have heart attacks and are fairly young. Now our Office Manager is selling the stuff and so is the receptionist on the chiropractic side. NP and his staff want nothing to do with it, as one of med techs, a kid of 19 tried the shake and his blood pressure went sky high (we had this big staff meeting after OM got involved and every one got a 3 day sample pack. I gave mine back.)

    My problem is, these companies don't target healthy individuals but those with compromised health and some of these ingredients could be detrimental to their health such as it is.

    I’ve been doing the due diligence, checking the ingredients, looking at reviews and stuff that aren’t part of the Thrive MLM website. No one ever warns you about their own products, even if they know there might be potential for concern, so none of their training or videos will ever mention adverse side effects. And why would they? You can’t make sales that way. And for the average person taking and promoting the stuff there might never be a problem other than burn out and empty pockets. So here are my findings so far:

    Thrive contains Bitter Orange (Synephrine) similar to the drug, ephedra, which you might know was banned in the US.

    Contraindications include:
    http://www.drugs.com/npp/bitter-orange.html

    Bitter orange is frequently used in “ephedra-free” products since the FDA banned ephedra in 2004 for serious side effects on the heart. Bitter orange and caffeine, a frequent combination in weight loss and bodybuilding products, can cause high blood pressure and increased heart rate in healthy adults with otherwise normal blood pressure. (And there is a lot of caffeine in Thrive.) There is no evidence to suggest that bitter orange is any safer than ephedra.

    Bitter orange (synephrine) is considered a banned substance by the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA).

    Diabetes: Some evidence suggests that bitter orange may interfere with blood sugar control in patients with type 2 diabetes. Use with caution and monitor blood sugar levels closely.

    There is also white willow bark in it. That’s natural aspirin and can cause problems for people on blood thinners.

    http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-955-willow%20bark.aspx?activeingredientid=955&activeingredientname=willow%20bark

    and combining the 2 with all the other stimulants it contains for weight loss?

    Weight loss. Early research suggests that taking willow bark in combination with ephedra and cola nut might cause slight weight loss in overweight and obese people.However, it is not wise to use this combination because of safety concerns about ephedra. Ephedra has been banned in the United States due to severe harmful side effects.


    How insane is this? Very.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    dank111 emphasized the importance of a doctor giving the OK to use supplements.
    Does he have evidence of that?

    ROTFLMAO..

    ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    Are you asking if dank111 has evidence a doctor gave a patient or would give a patient, the OK to use a supplement?
    Basically, yes.


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    Ask advice from doctors about supplements? Personally I wouldn't as they do little to no training on it. A doctor told me this.
    Plus, doctors prescribe drugs routinely and hundreds of thousands of people die from legal drugs every year.

    Take dank's advice with a pinch of salt, he has an agenda.
    "People are not interested in your product or your business; they are interested in solving their own problems." -- James Dillehay, Entrepreneur and Author

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    I think it is a good idea to at least ask your doctor but I do think most doctors wouldn't take the time for whatever reason.
    Maybe a pharmacist could give some good advice on supplements, if not who could? How about those doctors that aren't really doctors. I can't think of what they're called right now, shoot. Not quacks, lol They go to school but not medical school like a physician with a MD or a specialist.

    I looked it up
    Osteopaths
    Maybe nutritionists? Personally I trust the people who are in charge in my company, they have been involved in supplements for decades and have many good qualifications, I don't feel I need advice from anyone else.
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    Re: Le Vel Thrive

    I tried this after being consistently harassed by a friend to try it. It was actually myself and one of my good friends. Both she and I have recently lost some weight the good ol' fashioned way and this other friend swore this would help with things like sore muscles, energy, etc. So we took the plunge, we wore the patches, took the pills, and drank the shakes for a few days. At the end of the few days we both agreed we had noticed zero changes. The patch didn't reduce any pain or soreness, my friend actually got jittery and stopped taking one of the supplements as it made her feel ill. I drink coffee regularly so I didn't notice much of a difference with my energy.

    I know some people will swear by these products but I was just glad I didn't pay for my sample like some people had. Oh - and the shakes were mediocre. I make much better smoothies with fresh ingredients though. It's also a hell of a lot cheaper than their packaged shake.

    The only health company that I've really stood by is Beach Body and that's because they offer legitimate workout programs that WORK if you do them and eat like you should. (And they all come with nutrition guides that don't require you to drink shakeology.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sojustask View Post
    There are those who will remember me from when I was an admin and moderator here

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    wow.... voice from the past.... the late great lady mod

    long time no see ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebaroo View Post
    wow.... voice from the past.... the late great lady mod

    long time no see ;-)
    Wow! Why are so many of the "old crew" suddenly coming back to post?

    Can we assume you never really left?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazza. View Post
    Wow! Why are so many of the "old crew" suddenly coming back to post?

    Can we assume you never really left?


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    i have dropped by from time to time but the forum got to the point where it was only pissing contests and no real discussion.

    usually by about the 3rd post in any thread, the conversation would be, 'you are a liar', 'you are a bigger liar', etc., etc.

    good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebaroo View Post
    wow.... voice from the past.... the late great lady mod

    long time no see ;-)

    Scary isn't it? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebaroo View Post
    i have dropped by from time to time but the forum got to the point where it was only pissing contests and no real discussion.

    usually by about the 3rd post in any thread, the conversation would be, 'you are a liar', 'you are a bigger liar', etc., etc.

    good luck
    I have to agree, it was getting pretty insane. But there were quite a few who knew what they were talking about too. I hope they didn't all get chased away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisan23 View Post
    I tried this after being consistently harassed by a friend to try it. It was actually myself and one of my good friends. Both she and I have recently lost some weight the good ol' fashioned way and this other friend swore this would help with things like sore muscles, energy, etc. So we took the plunge, we wore the patches, took the pills, and drank the shakes for a few days. At the end of the few days we both agreed we had noticed zero changes. The patch didn't reduce any pain or soreness, my friend actually got jittery and stopped taking one of the supplements as it made her feel ill. I drink coffee regularly so I didn't notice much of a difference with my energy.

    I know some people will swear by these products but I was just glad I didn't pay for my sample like some people had. Oh - and the shakes were mediocre. I make much better smoothies with fresh ingredients though. It's also a hell of a lot cheaper than their packaged shake.

    The only health company that I've really stood by is Beach Body and that's because they offer legitimate workout programs that WORK if you do them and eat like you should. (And they all come with nutrition guides that don't require you to drink shakeology.)

    So far, from the people I've seen try it, they will either get more energy, or they were get jittery and have problems sleeping. There is a major risk one takes ingesting that many stimulants and caffeine for an extended length of time. They risk burning out their adrenal glands. Which in turn will can further result in mitochondria depletion. Not fun things to experience.

    Long lasting weight loss does not come in a pill, a shake or a patch.

    No amount of wishing it so will make it so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    Maybe nutritionists? Personally I trust the people who are in charge in my company, they have been involved in supplements for decades and have many good qualifications, I don't feel I need advice from anyone else.
    Aren't you the guy that used to swear by colloidal silver supplements? Sure, I would believe a bunch of people running a fictional company (yours) over experts on the subject of supplements (sarcasm). Even I knew that Nerium was snake oil when I sold it. Their slogan was "Real science, real results." After pressuring them for over a year for the "real science and real results" with no response other than their canned BS studies funded by them, I got a conscience. You might want to give that a shot along with providing proof of those that "have been involved in supplements for decades and have many good qualifications." I know it's a lot to ask for, but you make so many claims and never back anything up but certainly have no problem asking everyone else for proof of their claims. Why is that?

    Yes, I would certainly trust a bunch of MLM "experts" over trained and highly educated people and studies done on products such as this one:

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-li...r/faq-20058061

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