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    Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    What has had the greatest impact on the world, religion or dictatorship?

    Based on destruction of property, conquest of nations, repression, high rates of murder, genocide, eradication of cultures, and attacks on democratic institutions, dictators like Tojo, Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin win the prize. Then, of course, there were hundreds of years of Roman Emperors (dictators).

    Here is a link to dictatorship.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Dictatorship

    Based on the evidence, dictatorships are more destructive to the world than religion.

    What do you think?
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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Both have caused destruction of property, conquest of nations, repression, high rates of murder, genocide, eradication of cultures, and attacks on democratic institutions.

    Does it really matter which is worse? It's not a competition...

    You are asking us to compare two destructive forces against each other and rate them?
    How do you value destruction of property, genocide, eradication of cultures and compare them?

    Apples and oranges... but that doesn't excuse any of them from committing hideous crimes against humanity.

    Let's also not forget that religion and dictatorship goes hand in hand. You can't separate them and compare them with each other as two distinctly separate evils. Many dictatorships throughout history has been based on religion and has used religion as a way to legitimize themselves.




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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    What has had the greatest impact on the world, religion or dictatorship?

    Based on destruction of property, conquest of nations, repression, high rates of murder, genocide, eradication of cultures, and attacks on democratic institutions, dictators like Tojo, Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin win the prize. Then, of course, there were hundreds of years of Roman Emperors (dictators).

    Here is a link to dictatorship.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Dictatorship

    Based on the evidence, dictatorships are more destructive to the world than religion.

    What do you think?
    Roman Emperors weren't dictators. They were gods. Just like the Egyptian pharaohs.

    Most of whom existed before the Old Testament was invented.

    In terms of percentage of population at the time, death at the hand of religion shits all over everything else.

    The premise of this thread is a fallacy and doesn't add anything to the credibility of the author.


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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    Here's a list of leaders who were considered deities.
    There are a few missing from the list:

    Kim Il-Sung
    Kim Jong-Il
    Kim Jong-Un

    North Korea's Kim dynasty are all considered as divine and are revered as such.

    Kim Il-Sung is still president, even after his death.
    When Kim Jong-Il was born, it's said that a double rainbow appeared and that a new star was lit in the sky (Jesus is not the only one who had a star appear at birth!)

    It is told that "
    Great Comrade Kim Il Sung turned pine cones into bullets and grains of sand into rice, and crossed a large river riding on fallen leaves." (Jesus only multiplied some fish and walked on water...)

    North Korea is the most rampant example of a religious dictatorhip we have in the world today.



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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    What caused what in world history? Did religion cause pharaohs, emperors, and other nondemocratic leaders to be dictators, or did they use religion to justify being dictators?

    More likely, it was a product of the times where religion was a dominant force in society. It may also be true that those in power would be dictators with or without religion. It seemed to go along with the position. When they began leaders (dictators) they automatically got the deity that came with the position.
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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    What caused what in world history? Did religion cause pharaohs, emperors, and other nondemocratic leaders to be dictators, or did they use religion to justify being dictators?

    More likely, it was a product of the times where religion was a dominant force in society. It may also be true that those in power would be dictators with or without religion. It seemed to go along with the position. When they began leaders (dictators) they automatically got the deity that came with the position.
    You need to get educated!

    Pharaohs, emperors, and other nondemocratic leaders, as you call them, were Kings. They were revered by the people. Their veneration and elevation to god status was earned. Unlike the veneration of religious gods which was propagated by fear and superstition.

    You really do have a closed mind, don't you?

    The simple fact is that these Pharaohs and kings were gods long before yours was conceived and they remain so whether you like it or not.
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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    I'm enjoying this latest debate with Cnance. I've taken some time to do a little homework on some of the things being said.

    Here's a list of leaders who were considered deities.

    Imperial cults[edit]

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    Egyptian pharaohs

    3050 – 30 BC Egyptian pharaohs were kings of Ancient Egypt, and were considered gods by their culture. Their titles equated them with aspects of the likes of the hawk god Horus, the vulture goddess Nekhbet, and the cobra-goddess Wadjet. The Egyptians believed that when their Pharaoh died, he would continue to lead them in the next life, which is why his burial was grand and completed to perfection—to please him in the next life and ensure his immortality to protect his people. See List of pharaohs.[1][2]
    Chinese Emperors

    221 BC – AD 1911 Deified as "Sons of Heaven" since the Qin Dynasty under Qin Shi Huang.[3]
    Roman Emperors

    42 BC – AD 363 Following Julius Caesar who in 42 BC was formally deified as "the Divine Julius", and Caesar Augustushenceforth became Divi filius ("Son of the Divine One"), some (not all) Roman Emperors of the 1st to 4th centuries claimed divinity, including Tiberius 14–37, Caligula 37–41, Claudius 41–54, Hadrian 117–138,Commodus 161–192, Constantine I 306–312, Julian the Apostate 361–363Further information: Imperial cult (ancient Rome), Augustus (honorific) and Augusta (honorific)
    Japanese Emperors

    660 BC – Claimed, at least by some Shintoists, including government officials, to be divine descendants of the goddess Amaterasu. Hirohito, the Showa emperor, repudiated the "false conception" of his divinity in theHumanity Declaration in 1945.[4]
    Natchez rulers

    700 The Natchez were a theocracy ruled by "The Great Sun." This ruler has sometimes been deemed a God-king.[5]
    The Sailendras

    700 The Sailendra dynasty of Java were active promoters of Mahayana Buddhism and covered the plains ofCentral Java with Buddhist monuments, including the world famous Borobudur.[6]
    Dalai Lamas

    1391 – Considered re-incarnations of Avalokiteśvara in Tibetan Buddhism. Panchen Lamas are incarnations ofAmitābha.[7][8][9]
    Inca Emperors

    1438 The Inca Emperors had a status very similar to that of the Pharaohs of Egypt.
    Nepalese monarchs

    1768–2008 In Nepal, the kings of the Shah dynasty were considered incarnations of Vishnu.[citation needed]
    Posthumous deification[edit]

    Main article: Apotheosis
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    Imhotep

    2600 BC Ancient Egyptian architect and physician, who two thousand years after his death, was raised to that of a god, becoming the god of medicine and healing.
    Queen Dido of Carthage

    814 BC Founder and first queen of Carthage, after her death, she was deified by her people with the name ofTanit and assimilated to the Great Goddess Astarte (Roman Juno).[10] The cult of Tanit survived Carthage's destruction by the Romans; it was introduced to Rome itself by Emperor Septimius Severus, himself born in North Africa. It was extinguished completely with the Theodosian decrees of the late 4th century.
    Homer (hero cult)

    8th century BC Venerated at Alexandria by Ptolemy IV Philopator.
    Romulus and Remus (hero cult)

    771–717 BC Founders of Rome, sons of Mars, Romulus served as first king. After his death, Romulus was defined as the god, Quirinus, the divine persona of the Roman people. He is now regarded as a mythological figure, and his name a back-formation from the name Rome, which may ultimately derive from a word for "river". Some scholars, notably Andrea Carandini believe in the historicity of Romulus, in part because of the 1988 discovery of the Murus Romuli on the north slope of the Palatine Hill in Rome.[11]
    Siddhārtha Gautama Buddha

    563 BC(?) Believed a god by some Mahayana sects, and worshipped as an avatar of Vishnu by some Vaishnavas.
    Hephaestion

    356–324 BC Deified by Alexander the Great
    Alexander III of Macedon the Great(hero cult)

    356–323 BC Some believe he implied he was a demigod by actively using the title "Son of AmmonZeus". The title was bestowed upon him by Egyptian priests of the god Ammon at the Oracle of the god at the Siwah oasis in the Libyan Desert.[12]Further information: History of early Christianity, Pauline Christianity, Constantine the Great and Christianity and Christology
    Antinous

    111 AD–130 AD Deified by Hadrian. He is the last non-Imperial human formally deified in Western civilization.
    Mary (mother of Jesus)

    300 CE In 300 AD she was worshipped as a Mother Goddess in the Christian sect Collyridianism, which was found throughout the Arabian Peninsula. Collyridianism was made up mostly of women followers and female priests. Followers of Collyridianism were known to make bread and wheat offerings to the Virgin Mary, along with other sacrificial practices. The cult was heavily condemned as heretical and schismatic by other Christians and was preached against by Epiphanius of Salamis, who discussed the group in his recollective writings titled Panarion.
    Guan Yu

    581 AD–618 AD Guan Yu has been deified as early as the Sui Dynasty and is still popularly worshipped today among the Chinese people variedly as an indigenous Chinese deity, a bodhisattva in Buddhism and a guardian deity in Taoism. He is also held in high esteem in Confucianism. In Hong Kong both police and gangsters consider him a divine object of reverence. In certain schools of Taoism and Chinese Buddhism he has been deemed divine or semi-divine status. The reverence for him may date back to the Sui dynasty.[13]
    Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib

    599 AD–661 AD According to the Alawite faith, Ali ibn Abi Talib is one member of a trinity (Ali-Muhammad-Salman the Persian) corresponding roughly to the Christian Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is considered to be the second emanation of God by Yarsan and the supreme deity in Ali-Illahism.
    Sugawara no Michizane

    845 AD–903 AD Japanese Imperial courtier banished from the capital and deified upon his death to appease his angry spirit. Worshipped as Tenjin, kami of scholarship.
    El-Hakem b'Amr Allah

    985 AD–1021 AD Sixth Fatimid Caliph in Egypt, ruling from 996 to 1021. The members of the Druze faith believe that theFatimid Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah is God incarnate and that he will come back as theMahdi.[14][15][16][17][18]
    Majapahit Kings

    1293–1597 Javanese rulers of South East Asia's largest ever kingdom, in Indonesia. After death, they were depicted as Hindu gods (see for instance Raden Wijaya).
    Tokugawa Ieyasu

    1543–1616 Deified posthumously with the name Tōshō Daigongen by his successors.
    George Washington

    1732–1799 Worshiped as a kami in Hawaiian Shinto shrines.[19] In the United States Capitol dome, he is also depicted ascending into Heaven and becoming a god, in the famous painting called The Apotheosis of Washington.
    L. L. Zamenhof

    1859–1917 Considered a god by members of the Oomoto religion.
    José Rizal

    1861–1896 Deified by some people in the Philippines due to his contributions to the Philippine Revolution.[20][21]
    Wallace Fard Muhammad

    ~1877 – ~1934 Posthumously (?) deified by Elijah Muhammad. He is also given other titles by the Nation of Islam.[22]
    Kanichi Otsuka 1891 Shinreikyo states of its founder "God became one with a human body, appeared among humanity, and founded Shinreikyo."[23]
    Involuntary deification[edit]

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    Ezra HaSofer

    458 BC Ezra established Second Temple Judaism[24] and is regarded as a very important figure in Judaism.[25]The Quran claims that Yemenite Jews believed Uzair was the son of God.[Quran 9:30][26]
    Antiochus II Theos

    286–246 BC Seleucid ruler. The younger son of Antiochus I and Stratonice, succeeded his father in 261. He liberated Ephesus, Ionia, Cilicia and Pamphylia from Egyptian domination, and in return for their autonomy the cities of Asia Minor gave him the title Theos ("God").[27]
    Zheng He

    1371–1433 Worshiped by some Chinese and South East Asians.[28]
    General John Nicholson

    1822–1857 Inspired the cult of Nikal Seyn.
    Jiddu Krishnamurti

    1895–1986 Renounced the status of messiah and Maitreya incarnation given him by the Theosophical Society.
    Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia

    1892–1975 Among most followers of the Rastafari movement, Haile Selassie is seen as the second coming of Jesus Christ, God incarnate, the Black Messiah and "Earth's Rightful Ruler" who will also lead African peoples to freedom. Rastas say that his royal titles (i.e. King of Kings, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, and Root of David) were prophesied as belonging to the returned Messiah in Revelation 5:5. Their faith in his divinity first appeared in Jamaica, soon after his 1930 coronation in Addis Ababa.[29] Before his coronation he was called Ras (meaning Prince) Tafari.
    Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark, Duke of Edinburgh

    1921– Considered a god in the village of Yaohnanen, a cargo cult in Vanuatu.[30] See Prince Philip Movement.
    Kumari

    -? These are little girls who are worshipped by both Hindus and Buddhists as the incarnation of the HinduGoddess Durga (Nepali Taleju) in Nepal. They are picked when they are prepubescent and are worshipped until they reach puberty. Their cult is in South Asian countries, especially in Nepal.
    Self-deification[edit]

    Main article: Self-deification
    Further information: Maitreya claimants, Buddha claimants and Messiah claimants
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    Naram-Sin

    2255 – 2119 BC The first Mesopotamian king to claim divinity.[31]
    Pharnavaz I of Iberia

    326–234 BC Iberian king (reigned 299-234 BC)
    Antiochus IV Epiphanes

    215–164 BC Seleucid ruler (reigned 175-164); the only Seleucid king to claim divine honors, calling himself Theos Epiphaneus "God Manifest" and Nikephoros "Bringer of Victory." Nearly conquered Ptolemaic Egypt, the primary rival of the Seleucids among the Diadochi states. Famously attempted to impose ancient Greek religion on the Jews by persecution, leading to the Maccabean Revolt; remembered as a major persecutor in Jewish tradition.[27]
    Jesus

    ~4 BC – ~33 AD In Romans 1 Paul the Apostle described Jesus as being the Son of God and the Lord. The First Council of Nicaea was a synod assembly of bishops in 325 AD called by the Roman emperorConstantine the Great which formalized this in the Nicene and Jesus was declared God Incarnate. He is now considered to be divine in most Christian views of Jesus; God the Son in Trinitarian Christianity. He himself claimed to be God in passages in the New Testament, such as John 10:30,[32] and John 14:9.[33]
    Simon Magus

    1st century Considered a god in Simonianism. According to Irenaeus, he "was glorified by many as if he were a god; and he taught that it was himself who appeared among the Jews as the Son, but descended in Samaria as the Father while he came to other nations in the character of the Holy Spirit. He represented himself, in a word, as being the loftiest of all powers, that is, the Being who is the Father over all, and he allowed himself to be called by whatsoever title men were pleased to address him."[34]
    Veleda

    1st century Germanic prophetess considered a deity during her lifetime.
    Ismail I

    1502–1524 Self-claimed to be an emanation of God and was considered such by the Kızılbaş-Safaviya order,Qizilbash-Turkman subjects and Alevis.[35][36][37]
    Danila Filippovich

    1700 He believed that he was God and started the Khlysts. (There are various transliterations of his name including Danila Filipov, Danila Filipich, and Daniil Filippovich.)[38]
    Kondratii Selivanov

    1780s Kondraty Selivanov proclaimed himself both as the late Peter III of Russia and Christ himself, and started the Skoptsy.
    Hong Xiuquan

    1814–1864 Chinese man who claimed he was the younger brother of Jesus, and thus a son of God. Led the Taiping Rebellion, conquering a large part of China before defeat and suicide.
    Father Divine ~1880–1965 His followers considered him God in the flesh.[39]
    Taher Saifuddin

    1888–1965 Claimed to be Ilah'ul-Ard (God on Earth) in Bombay High Court.[40][41]
    Francisco Macías Nguema 1924–1979 In 1978, he changed the motto of Equatorial Guinea to "There is no other God than Macias Nguema."[42]
    Juanita Peraza (Mita)

    1897–1970 According to the Mita faith, Mita (Peraza) was the incarnation of the Holy Ghost on earth.[43]
    Lou de Palingboer 1898–1968 A divorced Dutchman named Louwrens Voorthuijzen who proclaimed himself "Lou the Eel Vendor", this being the translation of his proclaimed name "Lou de Palingboer". He was a figure who mixed marketing European eels with proselytism. His followers also considered him a living God on a mission against evil.[44]
    Nirmala Srivastava

    1923–2011 Guru and goddess of Sahaja Yoga, has proclaimed herself the incarnation of the Holy Ghost (AdiShakti), claimed that all other incarnations (e.g., Krishna, Christ, etc.) were aspects of her.[45][46]
    Jehovah Wanyonyi 1924– "I am the one who created Adam and Eve. I made their bodies and their blood", […] "I still use human beings by speaking through them, like I spoke through Jesus Christ until he went to Heaven." There are between 120 and a 1000 followers who consider him God.[47][48]
    Sathya Sai Baba

    1926–2011 Hindu guru that followers believed was a reincarnation of an avatar of Dattatreya. He alleged that he had the ability to heal, raise the dead, appear in more than one location at the same time, materialize objects, such as jewellery, etc.
    Jim Jones

    1931–1978 Founder of Peoples Temple, which started off as a part of a mainstream Protestant denomination before becoming a personality cult as time went on. One of Jones's devotees claimed that Jones said "If you see me as your savior, I'll be your savior. If you see me as your God, I'll be your God";[49] however Jones also described himself as atheist.[50]
    Yahweh ben Yahweh 1935–2007 He was born as Hulon Mitchell, Jr. and his self-proclaimed name means "God, Son of God." He could have only been deeming himself son of God, not God, but many of his followers clearly consider him God Incarnate.[51][52]
    Mitsuo Matayoshi

    1944– In 1997 he established the World Economic Community Party (世界経済共同体党) based on his conviction that he is the God and Christ.[53]
    Claude Vorilhon

    1946– Claims to be Maitreya, messenger of the "Elohim."
    Vissarion 1961– Claims to be Jesus Christ returned, which makes him not "God" but the "word of God".
    Joseph Kony

    1961– Proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, and has been considered by some as a cult of personality, and claims he is visited by a multinational host of 13 spirits, including a Chinese phantom.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...idered_deities
    Good find.

    People invent gods. They don't just appear out of nowhere and create universes. (Unless, of course, you want to invent a god that cannot be trumped by a lesser god.)

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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    What has had the greatest impact on the world, religion or dictatorship?

    Based on destruction of property, conquest of nations, repression, high rates of murder, genocide, eradication of cultures, and attacks on democratic institutions, dictators like Tojo, Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin win the prize. Then, of course, there were hundreds of years of Roman Emperors (dictators).

    Here is a link to dictatorship.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Dictatorship

    Based on the evidence, dictatorships are more destructive to the world than religion.

    What do you think?
    Hitler and the rest ain't got nothing on your 'loving' Yahweh. Genocide is his forte.
    As long as it is acceptable for a person to beLIEve that he knows how god wants everyone on Earth to live, we will continue to murder one another on account of our myths. ~ Sam Harris, 'The End Of Faith'
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    ~ Susan Kierkegaard

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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    Hitler and the rest ain't got nothing on your 'loving' Yahweh. Genocide is his forte.
    Where is the evidence for such a comment? Hitler is greater than God?

    If you mean God doesn't tolerate other gods and those who worship them, you have a point. However, if you are a true atheist, you don't believe in God, he didn't do it. Hitler
    exterminated about 6 million Jews. I think that is a record for genocide.

    If you are an atheist and have no standard for morality, how do you know what is good and bad?
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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Where is the evidence for such a comment? Hitler is greater than God?

    If you mean God doesn't tolerate other gods and those who worship them, you have a point. However, if you are a true atheist, you don't believe in God, so he didn't do it. Hitler
    exterminated about 6 million Jews. I think that is a record for genocide.

    If you are an atheist and have no standard for morality, how do you know what is good and bad?
    Hitler is greater than God?
    Simply because Hitler was real. A positive is always greater then a negative.....Now if you want to talk about "Killing in the NAME OF," as in the IDEA of any and all "Gods" throughout history, well then that idea's effect on people was a greater killer then Hitler!...
    Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively, and without self-delusion- in the long run these are the only people who count... Robert Heinlein

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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by GHOST DOG View Post
    Simply because Hitler was real. A positive is always greater then a negative.....Now if you want to talk about "Killing in the NAME OF," as in the IDEA of any and all "Gods" throughout history, well then that idea's effect on people was a greater killer then Hitler!...
    Because the world's population exploded after the industrial revolution began, I think more people had died in the 20th century from power hungry dictators.

    Regardless of a local god or not, people have fought for land, power, riches and personal glory. They used their gods to justify power and conquests, but those gods weren't the primary motivator.

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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    If you are an atheist and have no standard for morality, how do you know what is good and bad?
    That is a rather bold statement! One cannot lead a moral life without religion? Since when? Morality is a social construction. What is deemed immoral or unacceptable behavior in one culture may be perfectly acceptable in another. The Aztecs were an incredibly religious culture which practiced human sacrifice on a fairly regular basis... is human sacrifice moral?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulM View Post
    That is a rather bold statement! One cannot lead a moral life without religion? Since when? Morality is a social construction. What is deemed immoral or unacceptable behavior in one culture may be perfectly acceptable in another. The Aztecs were an incredibly religious culture which practiced human sacrifice on a fairly regular basis... is human sacrifice moral?
    There is overwhelming evidence that the Bible had a strong impact on Western civilization. The Ten Commandments even influenced common law. Many commandments in common law come directly from the Old Testament. As for other cultures, they did not have the Bible as part of their tradition. Certainly, the Aztecs knew nothing about the Bible.

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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    There is overwhelming evidence that the Bible had a strong impact on Western civilization. The Ten Commandments even influenced common law. Many commandments in common law come directly from the Old Testament. As for other cultures, they did not have the Bible as part of their tradition. Certainly, the Aztecs knew nothing about the Bible.
    Yet for some reason all those other cultures came up with generally the same laws, reasons and morality despite never knowing of the bible.

    Oddly enough the only time the proudly broke that morality is in the name of religion.

    so what came first Human morality that seems a universal concept or religious morality that seems to change religion by religion country by country.

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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gazza. View Post
    Roman Emperors weren't dictators. They were gods. Just like the Egyptian pharaohs.


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    The romans had dictators and it was a very interesting concept. In times of crisis someone would step up or be appointed, named dictator with absolute power. The dictator would wield this power and fix the problems. When done he would step down. My Roman history is a tad rusty but as i recall this was before the time of the emperors. Don't think it ever happened again after Julius Caesar.

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    Re: Dictatorship, the true face of world order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    What caused what in world history? Did religion cause pharaohs, emperors, and other nondemocratic leaders to be dictators, or did they use religion to justify being dictators?

    More likely, it was a product of the times where religion was a dominant force in society. It may also be true that those in power would be dictators with or without religion. It seemed to go along with the position. When they began leaders (dictators) they automatically got the deity that came with the position.
    Almost all religion has been about control, money, sex, and power. Many times used as a tool by dictators. My personal opinion is religion has done way more harm that good.

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