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    Re: Bless the Children for They Will Not Have the Protection Of God.

    Saw this and thought it'd fit nicely on this thread...

    As long as it is acceptable for a person to beLIEve that he knows how god wants everyone on Earth to live, we will continue to murder one another on account of our myths. ~ Sam Harris, 'The End Of Faith'
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    Re: Bless the Children for They Will Not Have the Protection Of God.

    http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/rich..._lasting_harm/

    In a recent interview with the Times magazine, Richard Dawkins attempted to defend what he called “mild pedophilia,” which, he says, he personally experienced as a young child and does not believe causes “lasting harm.”

    Dawkins went on to say that one of his former school masters “pulled me on his knee and put his hand inside my shorts,” and that to condemn this “mild touching up” as sexual abuse today would somehow be unfair.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
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    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Bless the Children for They Will Not Have the Protection Of God.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    Sounds more like a full blown pedophile grooming a child for more touches etc.
    They start out slow and work their way up to having sex with the child.
    Re:Dawkins,...for clarification...



    Further clarification from R.Dawkins via D.Packman

    As long as it is acceptable for a person to beLIEve that he knows how god wants everyone on Earth to live, we will continue to murder one another on account of our myths. ~ Sam Harris, 'The End Of Faith'
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    Re: Bless the Children for They Will Not Have the Protection Of God.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    Read this article and the explanation saying most of the children molested by priests were of the age of 15 to 17.

    http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/the...dophile-priest


    -< PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania, MARCH 11, 2002 (Zenit.org).- Philip Jenkins, a Penn State University professor of history and religious studies, is author of "Pedophiles and Priests: Anatomy of a Contemporary Crisis" (Oxford University Press, 1996). He wrote this article for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, which published it March 3 under the headline "The Myth of the Pedophile Priest."


    This article seeks to downplay the seriousness of the issue.

    The despicable actions of just one person chosen by their God to be responsible the protection of his "flock" and the children within deserves nothing less than severe punishment, not merely being moved around so they can continue, un-checked, with their vile and disgusting predatory habits.

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    On an off-topic side note, I find it interesting that the author has made this statement and wonder, as an obvious Christian, if he would apply the same principle to the radical Islamists and Islam, in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by The above article
    No one can deny that Boston church authorities committed dreadful errors, but at the same time, the story is not quite the simple tale of good and evil that it sometime appears. Hard though it may be to believe right now, the "pedophile priest" scandal is nothing like as sinister as it has been painted -- or at least, it should not be used to launch blanket accusations against the Catholic Church as a whole.

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    Re: Bless the Children for They Will Not Have the Protection Of God.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    Gazza do you feel because they were working for the Catholic church God should have intervened? I'm not understanding the point you're trying to make.
    No. I'm saying that God should have punished each and every one of them just as any protector of children would have.

    Also, I am not singling out the Catholic church. I would apply the same principle to ANY religion.

    Since the God, in this particular religion, has not punished these pigs for what they have done, I can only deduce that either this God condones and even encourages this behavior or he simply doesn't exist.

    I choose the latter.

    On the other hand, if I believed that God existed and knowing that he condones or encourages the carers of his people committing such indecent acts I would, most certainly, not follow him. If I did, what would that say about me?


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    Re: Bless the Children for They Will Not Have the Protection Of God.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    There is no way for us to know if God intervened or not. What would God do to stop them because humans have free will. The humans themselves would need to see the wrong and stop the evil behavior. Many believe this kind of evil act will be punished after death but then of course many believe if you repent you will be forgiven.
    Can or does God make you do certain things or all things?

    I am positive when horrible events happen in a persons life, many people have lost their faith because of the questions you have brought to light with your opinion that God, if real, would stop pedophile Priests from molesting children. Because he did not, you choose to believe there is no God. You put emphasis on the fact these are people of the highest order, in the Catholic church, committing the sin while doing God's work.

    I have no answer for why God doesn't stop all horrific events from harming people.
    Supposedly God does intervene by performing miracles and Catholics do believe in miracles and believe in Saints etc.

    My best answer for this would be, God let's a person sin but if the person repents he may be forgiven. God gives comfort and helps a person find peace after the person experiences a horrific event in their lives. God allows sin.

    If a person sins and feels no remorse then the person will be punished after death.

    Hopefully one of our members, who follows the Bible, can explain how they would understand why God didn't stop the Priest's from sexually molesting children. Why, when they are a man of God and considered special.
    It's not a question of intervention and it's not a matter of God preventing his priests from defiling children.

    It's a question of punishment. Not the punishment of the law but punishment from God.

    If these vile pigs who, under the guise of God loving protectors of the children of God, actually believed in God, they would never have even considered performing the disgusting acts they have on the innocent young people under their care.

    Their actions are irrefutable proof that they believe their God is a false God and, as such, does not exist.

    Especially in the hearts of the children who have been denied the normality of life afforded to those who have not fallen victim to the horrible and traumatic abuse of God's representatives.

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    Re: Bless the Children for They Will Not Have the Protection Of God.

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    Must watch...inspiring...

    well ........it dont inspire me......about the time he started screaming i lost interest......:rotz::bah:ing1::yelcutelaughA:
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