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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniesav
    While this is an insightful post, it has absolutely nothing to do with the thread really. And yes, my gf has had the same course you are talking about, so yes I know :) When you say "food-borne illness" though, what is really meant are bacteria that may be carried inside the food, whatever it may be, usually of an animal origin.. that's why they tell you to cook your meats in proper specifications etc.. not to leave food out after it's been cooked for too long, how long things last in the fridge.. etc etc.. Bacteria is everywhere folks, in the air, on your shoes, on your hands...
    And at the same time, God made us so we can handle all the bacteria around us, as long as we aren't consuming substances that suppress our immune systems. Like I said before, eating more raw produce, drinking water and getting the fresh air and exercise on a DAILY basis does more good for our immune system than drugs/vaccines/immunization shots.

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    New test for Bird-Flu (HOAX)

    Ya'll will enjoy reading about this crazy wild hoax, tell all your friends about this.... http://www.nomorefakenews.com/archiv...w.php?key=3039 They just do not want to give up on this, but the TRUTH PREVAILS HERE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawb
    Obviously you have never read the book "The truth about the drug companies" ? The author was with the New England journal of medicine for over 20 years. She is one source, as another one is Dr. Mercola, and Dr. Horowitz see;

    www.mercola.com

    www.tetrahedron.org

    Vaccines and immunization shots DO NOT prevent disease. I read a book from a religion that is over 150 years old that states that food has every bit to do with why people get sick in the first place, and drugs (artificial synthetic garbage that the body doesn't recognize) only masks the symptoms, and give us temporary relief. So if drugs etc... work so well, I don't see them curing people of their disease or sickness, and they actually get more side effects!! What an effective system we have here. Why take them ???

    On the other hand, I see courses and various seminars where people follow the program and they change to eating more raw foods (natural from nature like the body needs) and change their lifestyle habits (exercise, fresh air, etc..) and voila! some people are off medication within 30-60 days, have more energy, sleep better, lose weight, reverse many diseases and the list goes on. I would much rather recommend people do just that rather than take life suppressing drugs.

    Anyone can observe by looking at others that drugs/vaccines/immunization shots are useless. The foods we eat initially make us sick and suppress the immune system. Who are the ones that always get sick ? The ones who take the medical systems medications. Since I watch what I eat and never take any drugs, I never get sick. And I am ALWAYS around people who have the flu and every other sickness every year. I breathe the same air while they are coughing and hacking etc... I guess it goes to show that abstaining from sugar on a large scale does definitely help. When I ate lots of sugar, I got sick a few times a year.
    While I understand how some people buy into things quickly because they know nothing about the subject beforehand, or simply because they find whoever wrote the material to be credible because they have some educational distinction. The sad fact of the matter is that not everyone is right about everything, and many Doctors disagree about numerous things. The same can be said about all health professionals. Point being, I wouldn't just take something for gospel just because "so and so" wrote it. Did you believe the Da Vinci code too ? I also think it's interesting that each website you linked to there was something to buy there..

    Now, I never mentioned anything about exercising and eating right. That will definitely go along way for people insofar as their general health goes. If everyone ate properly and exercised sufficiently we'd definitely be a healthier country overall, however, would we be diseaese/sickness free? Of course not, that's nearly impossible. It's one thing to say that eating better and exercising help us all out overall, and it's another to say that medicine hasn't done sqaut for us, that's just plain ignorance. One prime example, which happened to be the first vaccine ever.. Smallpox. If it weren't for vaccines, who knows how many would die every year due to smallpox, especially with bioterrorism on the rise ! If you don't think smallpox works, I have a challenge for you.. go ahead and take a buddy, make sure he's vaccinated for smallpox, then you go in a room with a sample of it in an envelope and you two handle it both. See who comes out with/without the disease !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniesav
    While I understand how some people buy into things quickly because they know nothing about the subject beforehand, or simply because they find whoever wrote the material to be credible because they have some educational distinction. The sad fact of the matter is that not everyone is right about everything, and many Doctors disagree about numerous things. The same can be said about all health professionals. Point being, I wouldn't just take something for gospel just because "so and so" wrote it. Did you believe the Da Vinci code too ? I also think it's interesting that each website you linked to there was something to buy there..

    Now, I never mentioned anything about exercising and eating right. That will definitely go along way for people insofar as their general health goes. If everyone ate properly and exercised sufficiently we'd definitely be a healthier country overall, however, would we be diseaese/sickness free? Of course not, that's nearly impossible. It's one thing to say that eating better and exercising help us all out overall, and it's another to say that medicine hasn't done sqaut for us, that's just plain ignorance. One prime example, which happened to be the first vaccine ever.. Smallpox. If it weren't for vaccines, who knows how many would die every year due to smallpox, especially with bioterrorism on the rise ! If you don't think smallpox works, I have a challenge for you.. go ahead and take a buddy, make sure he's vaccinated for smallpox, then you go in a room with a sample of it in an envelope and you two handle it both. See who comes out with/without the disease !!
    Vaccines are only as good as their ingredients testify. You will have a hard time convincing people that ethyl mercury or aluminum is going to keep them safe from small pox. If they are scared of small pox and get their yearly vaccines, I guess Alzheimer's or Parkinson's will be the replacement instead. Mercury, when injected into the body usually ends up in the brain or spinal cord. Great, right ? Big pharma knows what they are doing. The thing is, people are finally waking up and finding out for themselves. That is a good thing. The wool is being lifted from around the eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawb
    Vaccines are only as good as their ingredients testify. You will have a hard time convincing people that ethyl mercury or aluminum is going to keep them safe from small pox. If they are scared of small pox and get their yearly vaccines, I guess Alzheimer's or Parkinson's will be the replacement instead. Mercury, when injected into the body usually ends up in the brain or spinal cord. Great, right ? Big pharma knows what they are doing. The thing is, people are finally waking up and finding out for themselves. That is a good thing. The wool is being lifted from around the eyes.

    www.pcrm.org

    Rawb, you are so mislead my man.. Where do you pick this stuff up from? I know sometimes it seems cooler or more feasible to buy into the conspiracy ideas, but give it a little free thought. Do some homework on the subject, and don't just turn to these propaganda led websites for your information!

    The smallpox vaccine contains purified, concentrated freeze-dried calf lymph. Antibiotics called polymyxin B sulfate, dihydrostreptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate are added during processing and trace amounts may be in the final product. The diluting fluid for smallpox vaccine contains 50% glycerin, with 0.25% phenol in sterile water for injection, USP. Once rehydrated, the vaccine contains approximately 100 million infectious vaccinia viruses per milliliter, with 100 doses per vial.

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    Well, actually some preservatives in vaccines contain things like ethyl mercury which has toxic properties. Thimerosal does, for example. However, this type of preservative is becoming less common. In many cases it's possible to request a vaccine that doesn't contain thimerosal.

    But vaccines themselves are a proven way of combatting viruses. That's why viruses like smallpox and polio have been essentially eradicated. And the principle is remarkably simpy - vaccines prime the body's internal defences against viruses so that can destroy the REAL virus quickly when it enters the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniesav
    Rawb, you are so mislead my man.. Where do you pick this stuff up from? I know sometimes it seems cooler or more feasible to buy into the conspiracy ideas, but give it a little free thought. Do some homework on the subject, and don't just turn to these propaganda led websites for your information!
    Well, I do have a brain and use it to think with. Many people follow the medical field and blindly I may add. In the area of pharmaceuticals, one can easily observe that they do not cure or prevent disease. They merely allow us to escape the pain, whether it be physical or mental.

    From my understanding of vaccines, it will be pretty much impossible to avoid any type of vaccine that does not contain formaldehyde, as that is usually what is used to kill the live virus in the vaccine. Formaldehyde, needs to be replaced. It is not safe to be injecting into people, especially if people take their yearly shots. Also, the live viruses need to be grown in the first place. So monkey kidneys, or chick embryos, or even human aborted fetuses are used to grow the actual virus. Not exactly something great to be partaking of but anyway.

    Small pox killed 300 million people alone in the 20th century. So, what was the rest of the population of the world doing differently ? The world still survived. We need to ask how the people who survived the ordeal, or observe what they were doing differently, to draw conclusions on a solution. I will bet it had a lot to do with food, and water. Or the lack of water, or lack of clean water.

    Isn't it interesting indeed how they can just "grow" a virus in a tube ? If they know how to create it in a tube, it should be easy to pin point it then and educate people to avoid exposure out in the world. There is a source for everything. They obviously know the source, why not divulge that info ? They won't. Easier to control people if things are kept secret, and feed them things to keep them paranoid.

    Once again. Simple observation shows people.... well, some people can observe, others obviously aren't privy to the same gifts. This has nothing to do with any "propaganda" websites. Just day to day living and experience. My uncle has 4 kids. The two oldest, had ALL of their shots from birth to when they were teenagers. The two youngest kids were as follows; the 2nd youngest had only 1 vaccination, and the youngest had 0, nada, nothing. My uncle (who isn't into conspiracy theories or anything) noted that the two oldest got sick all the time whenever something was "going around". They would catch something that everyone else had at school etc... the two youngest were the healthier ones, but the youngest in particular, was the strongest out of all. So what does that show us ?

    And that is only one of a few experiences as there are local people who have not vaccinated their children and one family in particular had 3 kids where the only kid to come down with anything was 1 spot of measles. 1 spot. None of them had chicken pox, mumps, etc.... but the family were vegans, drank distilled water, and had absolutely nothing to do with vaccines or any pharmaceutical drugs . Of course, they never had any major sickness since they ate really healthy, so they never had a need for prescription drugs anyway. And the kids were around others in school who had all of the typical sicknesses, but yet, they never contracted them.

    It is simple as that; the foods we eat, and even if we eat not so good, how we treat the sickness when it arrives. Do we run to a doc to get the latest anti-biotic ? or do we rest, get fresh air, drink lots of water, and stay away from the mucus forming foods that pervade the American diet ? It is all about choice. More people are choosing not to immunize, as people see what the ingredients are.
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    Smallpox vaccine is good right ?

    BACKGROUND
    A 7-year-old boy presents to his primary care physician with a swollen left eye. Three days ago, what was thought to be a pimple developed below his left eye, adjacent to his nose. Two days ago, the left eyelids appeared erythematous and swollen. Yesterday, the swelling became worse, and the patient’s mother noted discharge from his left eye. In addition, he had a low-grade fever and complained of having a headache and body aches. What is the diagnosis?

    Answer
    Vaccinia of the eyelid caused by inadvertent inoculation: Vaccinia virus is the live virus used in the smallpox vaccine. It is a pox-type virus related to smallpox. When given to humans as a vaccine, it helps the body develop immunity to smallpox. Because the virus in the vaccine is live, it can be inadvertently transmitted from the recently vaccinated person to other people. Bandages, clothing, and hands that touch the vaccination site before it heals can become contaminated and transmit the virus to another person. Care of the vaccination site must be taken to prevent spreading of the vaccinia virus.

    Treatment of this patient involves consultation with an ophthalmologist to assess the eye and the administration of vaccinia immunoglobulin (VIG) together with systemic antibiotics to prevent and treat any secondary bacterial infection. The differential diagnosis includes primary herpes simplex infection of the eyelid; however, in this case, the recent history of a family member being vaccinated against smallpox confirms the diagnosis of vaccinia

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    SMALLPOX PANDEMIC PLANNED ARE YOU READY?

    By Amy Worthington

    Throughout the 1980s, George Bush Sr. and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shipped deadly bio-warfare agents-including anthrax and West Nile Virus-to Saddam Hussein.1 Now George Bush Jr. and the CDC are determined to unleash upon America the disease of smallpox as part of their phony "war on terrorism." In November, Congress passed the Homeland Security Act. Section 304 authorizes the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) to declare a national state of emergency and at his discretion, FORCE every citizen to take vaccines and/or medication. Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) calls the Homeland Security Act a "hoax" and a "monstrosity."2 Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) says it grants government "dangerous and unconstitutional powers," including "forced vaccination."3 The CDC is an agency of HHS. The CDC's order to vaccinate every American could be precipitated by just one reported case of smallpox.4 At least 1 million persons in each state would be vaccinated within 10 days of an emergency order.5 Meantime, pre-event vaccination of health care and emergency workers, plus military personnel, is now in the works.

    1. Smallpox would not make a successful bio-terrorist weapon because it is NOT explosively contagious.

    Dr. Joel Kuritsky confirms that smallpox is rarely spread through casual contact. Dr. Kuritsky 's work with smallpox containment projects in India and Bangladesh revealed that smallpox is easily contained by simply isolating the sick. Kuritsky confirms that infection requires prolonged, face-to-face contact of more than 7 days with a smallpox carrier who is obviously ill with a fever and rash.6 "The scenario in which a terrorist could infect himself with smallpox and contaminate an entire city by walking through the streets touching people is pure fiction," Kuritsky stated.7 American researchers in Pakistan found that twenty-seven percent of smallpox cases demonstrated no transmission of their disease, even to close contacts.8 The director of the CDC's National Immunization Program, Dr. Walter Orenstein, states that smallpox "will not spread like wildfire."9 Even CDC official Dr. James LaDuc claims that an outbreak of smallpox is "not the Armageddon some would have you believe." 10

    2. A government sponsored mass vaccination program guarantees a smallpox epidemic across the U.S.

    Mass vaccination will implant millions of Americans with the live vaccinia virus. The vaccinated will be infectious for 21 days after vaccination. 11 Newly vaccinated health care workers could easily infect their patients, those most vulnerable to infection from the vaccine. The American Nurse's Association representing 2.6 million nurses has expressed grave concern over the issue of vaccinated nurses spreading the disease from their inoculations, which can shed the virus until the scab has healed.12

    3. No one knows if the smallpox vaccination creates immunity from the disease.

    The CDC says the efficacy of the vaccinia smallpox vaccine has never been measured precisely in controlled trials.13 The CDC also admits that the level of antibody required for protection against smallpox infection is unknown [14] and the presence of antibodies in the blood does not guarantee immunity from disease.15 A 1999 article in the Journal of the American Medical Association stated that there is no proof that the smallpox vaccine actually prevents the disease.16 By the 1920s, British doctors noted that smallpox was more common among the vaccinated, and the death rate from smallpox was higher among those who had been vaccinated.17

    4. The smallpox vaccine is extremely dangerous and will put millions of Americans at high risk of serious illness or death.

    George Bush has stated that the vaccine may cost some people their lives. 18 According to the American Medical Association, as many as 250 could suffer serious reactions for each million people vaccinated. 19 Philip Russell, professor emeritus at Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, has stated that vaccinating the whole U.S. population against smallpox "...would cause tens of thousands of deaths." 20 A Washington Post report notes that if the entire nation were to be smallpox vaccinated, several thousand people would likely develop encephalitis, an inflammation or swelling of the brain.21 CDC official Jeffrey Koplan says universal smallpox vaccination could unleash a significant number of serious adverse reactions because many parts of our population do not have a "robust immune system."22 The American Society for Microbiology agrees that complications would be far more serious today than when routine smallpox vaccination ended in 1971, since there are millions more people with weak immune systems now than there were forty years ago.(23)

    5. The CDC has a compiled a list of persons at high risk for death or serious complications from the smallpox vaccine. These include:


    children under 18 - - especially infants

    pregnant women (an infected fetus could be stillborn or die at birth);

    millions of people with eczema or acute skin conditions

    millions of people who are immuno-suppressed from cancer and AIDS

    organ recipients and patients on immuno-suppressive drugs
    persons allergic to vaccine preservatives and antibiotics. 24 Especially sobering is evidence that the World Health Organization's 13-year global smallpox vaccination campaign awakened dormant HIV infections on two continents.25 A 1987 report in the New England Journal of Medicine cited an apparently healthy military recruit who developed AIDS immediately after his smallpox vaccination, then died quickly.26 Mass smallpox vaccination may be followed by an explosion of active AIDS cases across America.

    6. Because the smallpox vaccine is so dangerous, leading medical organizations have recommended against universal smallpox vaccination.

    The American Medical Association, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Family Physicians support vaccinating only those who have had known contact with a smallpox carrier.27 This approach is known as ring vaccination.

    7. Both the old and new vaccines prepared for mass smallpox vaccination are experimental.

    The CDC has dredged up 15 million of doses of Dryvax vaccine made by Wyeth Laboratories in the 1970s and 86 million doses of forty-year old Aventis vaccine. Both of these outdated concoctions were made from diseased cow lymph.28 According to the Working Group on Civilian Biodefense, "The traditional method for producing vaccines on the scarified flank of a calf is no longer acceptable because the product inevitably contains some microbial contaminants, however stringent the purification measures."29

    The newer smallpox vaccines, to be delivered by Acambis, PLC of Great Britain, are being created from a continuous cell line of human fetal tissue or monkey serum. The vaccines will be recombinant, despite scientific evidence that genetically engineered vaccines are responsible for an epidemic of auto-immune and neurological conditions including autism, diabetes, chronic fatigue, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and MS-like illnesses.30

    8. Vaccine manufacturers have a long record of "filth and blunders".

    Acambis, PLC of Great Britain is manufacturing America's new smallpox vaccine in a joint venture with Baxter International.31 Acambis is owned by Aventis, whose parent company is Rhone-Poulenc. Both Rhone-Poulenc and Baxter "are infamously known for having infected more than 7,000 American hemophiliacs with the AIDS virus during the 1980s. They admitted to foreknowledge in selling HIV-tainted blood-clotting products and settled the class action case for $100,000 per claimant." 32

    The British health care system is in a state of collapse. British drug company's sterilization procedures are reported to be barely adequate, risking the spread of mad cow disease,[33] while government ministers are said to be hushing up the scandal.34 Five thousand people die each year from infections contracted in British hospitals and 10,000 become seriously ill from such infections.35

    In 2000, the U.S. FDA discovered that the British vaccine manufacturer Evans-Medeva was making vaccines for the U.S. in conditions of absolute filth.36 Medeva had illegally used bovine medium to culture its polio vaccines, and then lied about it.37 Medeva used the blood of a Creutzfeldt-Jakob victim (mad cow) to manufacture 83,000 doses of polio vaccine.38 Nonetheless, FDA allowed the U. S. to use Medeva's flu vaccine (Fluvirin) for the year 2000, with no reported follow-up inspections.39 British scientists announced in 2001 that Creutzfeldt-Jakob deaths have been attributed to contaminated British-made polio vaccines.40

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    9. No agency will test either the old or newer vaccines to determine what kind of pathogenic contaminants they may contain.

    Numerous scientific studies reveal that commercial vaccines often contain cancer viruses, bacteria and/or cell-invading mycoplasma.41 Microbes from animal and human cell lines easily escape the filtration process during vaccine manufacture. An estimated 98 million Americans have been injected with polio vaccines containing the monkey virus SV-40. It can take months or years before such hitchhiking microbes become obvious. SV-40 is now being found in bone and brain tumors and also in Hodgkin's Disease.42

    By 1961, scientists discovered that animal viruses in vaccines, including smallpox, could act as a carcinogen when given to mice in combination with cancer-causing chemicals. They concluded that vaccine viruses may act as catalysts for tumor production.43 Some of the new smallpox vaccine manufactured by Acambis will be produced on the MCR-5 cell line derived from human fetal tissue.44 Because MCR-5 is usually cultured in bovine serum, it is well-known for harboring bovine herpes virus.45 The rest of the new vaccine will be derived from green monkey Vero cells, which researchers note to be unstable and susceptible to malignant transformation.46

    In 2002, CDC epidemiologist Dr. Sharon Humiston was asked why the federal government does not routinely check commercial vaccines for such deadly contamination. She replied that Congress has not given the FDA enough money to do this crucial and vital testing.47

    10. The anthrax vaccine disaster could be repeated with mass smallpox vaccination.

    Dr. Garth Nicolson, a world-renown cancer researcher and Nobel Prize nominee, reports that contaminated anthrax vaccines administered to Armed Forces personnel is partially responsible for debilitating chronic illnesses now suffered by tens of thousands of them.48 Nicolson confirms that vaccines are often contaminated with mycoplasma, which causes symptoms of Gulf War Illness. When Nicolson examined mycoplasma infecting sick Gulf War vets, he discovered that some strains had been genetically engineered to contain a portion of the HIV virus, making them extremely virulent.49 Apparently this HIV-implanted mycoplasma was deliberately placed in military vaccines for experimental purposes. Nicolson told Congress in 2002 that the Department of Defense (DOD) continues to lie and deny in an attempt to cover up the dangers of the mycoplasma-laden anthrax vaccine.50 DOD has finally admitted, however, that anthrax vaccine can cause birth defects.51

    11. Americans who are injured by the smallpox vaccine may never be adequately compensated, nor will the families of those who die.

    Under provisions of the Homeland Security Act, technicians who administer smallpox vaccine to the public are protected from liability. Only one in four vaccine-damaged children is awarded damages by the federal government's compensation program.52 And Dr. Nicolson told Congress that sick Gulf War vets are still waiting for adequate medical and financial compensation for their illnesses.53 What will it cost taxpayers to resurrect smallpox?

    The CDC has paid the states almost 1 billion dollars to implement terrorism preparedness plans, which include mass vaccination. The feds lavished $428 million dollars on Acambis, a British pharmaceutical company, to concoct the new vaccines. The additional cost of vaccinating America is estimated at $5-10 dollars per person.54 Two hundred million people needlessly vaccinated at a cost at $5 each equals one billion dollars. At a cost of $10 dollars per vaccination, the price tag is a staggering 2 billion dollars. It could cost multi-millions more to support and medicate the thousands of people who may develop acute or chronic illness from the vaccine. According to National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases director Dr. Anthony Fauci, fifty million Americans may be at high risk of vaccine consequences.55 What is the bottom Line?

    When so many experts admit that a smallpox epidemic from bio-terrorism is unlikely and the smallpox vaccine could unleash a public health disaster, why is the Bush administration so rabid to vaccinate America, even before the first case of smallpox is produced? And why-out of the long list of ghastly bio-weapons supplied to Saddam by the Bush family -- has only smallpox been selected as a lever for a mass vaccination panic? The answer to both questions is big money and control of the population. There is no business like the terror business. Quite obviously, the smallpox vaccine is the most easily manufactured and readily acceptable by a previously conditioned public. A spokesman for the pharmaceutical industry gleefully reports that a phalanx of burgeoning companies are now "launching a new phase of marketing" to meet the threat of bio-terrorism. 56 MANDATORY consumption of vaccines, as envisioned by the dastardly Homeland Security Act, is a pharma mogul's wetdream. Thanks to their boy in the White House, the vaccine industry expects to DOUBLE its $6.5 global vaccine market over the next decade. 57 As long as the Needle Nazis smell this amount of potential profits, the managed "threat" of bio-terrorism will predictably be with us for a long time to come. In order for us to envision a brighter day, we will have to awaken our countrymen to the fact that a loaded needle is just as dangerous as a loaded gun.

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    Footnotes
    1. The Riegle Report, US Chemical and Biological Warfare-Related Dual Use Exports To Iraq and Their Possible Impact on the Health Consequences of the Gulf War,
    United States Senate, May 25, 1994;
    also AP report "U.S. Supplied Germs Later Used For Bioweapons," October 1, 2002: "The CDC...sent strains of all the germs Iraq used to make weapons, including anthrax, the bacteria that make botulinum toxin and the germs that cause gas gangrene, the records show."
    2. Statement In the Senate by Senator Byrd (D-W-VA), November 19, 2002. The Homeland Security Act of 2002 was signed by George Bush on November 25, 2002.
    Section 304, subsection C is titled Administration of Counter Measures Against Smallpox and it gives the Secretary of Health and Human Services unchecked powers to define a real or potential biochemical threat, prolong a state of emergency without Congressional oversight or consent, and compel individuals to submit to vaccination and medical treatment without exemption and without informed consent.
    3. Rep. Ron Paul, MD, "The Homeland Security Monstrosity," November 19, 2002.
    4. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, MMWR Updated Smallpox Response Plan and Guidelines, September 23, 2002, p. 13.
    5. Ibid.
    6. Dr. Kuritsky's statements were made at a CDC Public Forum in St. Louis, Missouri on June 8, 2002; See Idaho Observer, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DO, "HHS, CDC, Organized Medicine and Pharma Cartels Gearing up for Mass Vaccination Campaign," July 11, 2002.
    7. Ibid.
    8. This finding was reported at the July CDC conference by Dr. Tom Mack, an infectious disease expert with the University of Southern California School of Medicine. See Dr. Mack's entire speech to the CDC at www.vaclib.org/news/drmacks.htm. As a veteran of smallpox containment projects in Pakistan, he dispels many myths (such as the exaggerated death rate) sold to the American people about the dangers of smallpox.
    9. Dr. Orenstein is quoted by Dr. Tenpenny, "HHS, CDC, Organized Medicine and Pharma Cartels Gearing up for Mass Vaccination Campaign," July 11, 2002.
    10. USA Today, "Decades-Old Smallpox Vaccinations May Still Protect," Rita Rubin, November 8, 2001.
    11. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Vaccinia Vaccine Recommendations of the Advisory Committee On Immunization Practices (ACIP) Morbidity and Mortality; Weekly Report,; June 22, 2001, "Contacts of Vaccinees," p. 11.
    12. United Press International, Sharon Otterman, "Nurses, Firefighters Say Smallpox Shot `Must be Voluntary'" November 28, 2002.
    13. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Vaccinia Vaccine Recommendations of the Advisory Committee On Immunization Practices (ACIP) Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, June 22, 2001, "Vaccinia Vaccine," p. 7.
    14. Ibid.
    15. CDC, January 28, 1994.
    16. Journal of the American Medical Association, June 9, 1999, Vol. 281, No. 22, p. 3132S: Smallpox: "Neutralizing antibodies are reported to reflect levels of protection, although this has not been validated in the field."
    17. Vaccination, Dr. Viera Scheibner, Australia, 1993, pp. 205-220. Dr. Scheibner quotes a study by Dr. R.P Garrow, published in the British Medical Journal in January 14, 1928, showing the fatality rate among vaccinated cases of smallpox in England and Wales was higher than in the unvaccinated.
    18 Bush quoted by The Times (in London) November 09, 2001.
    19. Journal of the American Medical Association, June 9, 1999, Vol. 281, No. 22, p. 2132. "It has been estimated that if 1 million people were vaccinated, as many as 250 (1 in 4000) could die from an adverse reaction to the vaccine."
    20. The Washington Post, "You and A," October 2, 2001; p.HE 03
    21. The Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001, "Some Want Smallpox Shots Now"
    22. Koplan speaking on PBS special "Bioterror Propaganda" aired by WETA, November 14, 2001.
    23. USA Today, "US Mass Smallpox Vaccination Called Risky," Anita Manning, September 9, 2002. Microbiology Society president Ronald Atlas, in commenting on pre-1972 smallpox vaccination campaigns, is quoted, "Today with so many more cancer patients, people with HIV/AIDS and others with weakened immune systems, the number of serious side effects could be "much higher, by orders of magnitude."
    24. Centers For Disease Control and Prevention, MMWR Updated Smallpox Response Plan and Guidelines, September 23, 2002, pp. 11-13.
    25. The Times (In London), Pierce Wright, science editor, "Smallpox Vaccine Triggered the AIDS Virus, " May 11, 1987. The article states: "Doctors now accept that Vaccinia can activate other viruses..."
    26. Ibid.
    27. Reuters, December 12, 2001; ABC News, "A Worrisome Solution - Smallpox Report Sparks Mass Vaccination Concerns, " November 5, 2002: "The American Medical Association said on Tuesday it was not in favor of an immediate mass U.S. smallpox vaccination program, saying the potential threat of bio-terror attack did not warrant inoculating every American against the disease."
    AAPS: "Doctor's Group Votes to Oppose Vaccine Mandates," November 2, 2000; Opposition to mass vaccination by American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Family Physicians is cited in: ABC News.com, "Smallpox Report Sparks Mass Vaccination Concerns, November 5, 2002.
    28. See DRYVAX vaccine package insert (available at www.vaclib.org/basic/smallpoxindex.htm#inserts)
    29. Journal of the American Medical Association, Henderson DA, Inglesby et.al, June 9, 1999. "Smallpox as a Biological Weapon." This article contains consensus statements of the Working Group on Civilian Biodefense.
    30. Merck's genetically engineered hepatitis B Vaccine, Recombivax HB, is a classic example. According to Dr. Bonnie Dunbar of Baylor College of Medicine, many thousands of reported adverse reactions to the hepatitis B vaccine include: chronic fatigue, neurological disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and MS-like diseases.
    Testimony of Dr. Dunbar to Texas Dept of Health, March 12, 1999; Over 15,000 French citizens sued the French government to stop mandatory hep B injections for school children because of resulting auto-immune diseases. Science, July 31, 1998; The American College of Rheumatology reported that data from France shows hepatitis B vaccine is linked to development of numerous autoimmune diseases. American College of Rheumatology, annual meeting, Nov. 8-12, 1998. Dr. John Classen, has published voluminous data showing that the hepatitis B and other vaccines are closely linked to development of insulin dependent diabetes. Infectious Diseases in Clinical Practice, October 22, 1997.
    31. The Spectrum, Dr. Len Horowitz, "Smallpox and Anthrax Frights Planned Years Before 9-11 by Government and Drug Industry," November 2002. p. 26.
    32. Ibid.
    33. www.itn.uk/news/2001, January 6, 2001, "One Third of UK hospitals are `Unhygienic'"
    34. The Sunday Times, "UK Hospital Study on CJD Dangers was `Stifled' and `Suppressed,'" November 12, 2001; The Independent (London) "British Health Minsters Bury Alarming CJD Infection Report," November 21, 2002.
    35. www.itn.uk/news/2001, January 6, 2001, "One Third of UK hospitals are `Unhygienic"
    36. London Observer series, October 20-26, 2000.
    37. Ibid.
    38. ABC News "News Blood of Irish CJD Victim Used in Making of 83,000 Doses of Polio Vaccine," January 19, 2000.
    39. London Observer series, October 20-26, 2000.
    40. The Times (London) "Two UK CJD Deaths Confirmed As Coming From Polio Vaccine," Valerie Elliott, December 18, 2001.
    41. Benjamin McRearden, "What is Coming Through That Needle? The Problem of Pathogenic Vaccine Contamination." This article has 116 footnotes which cite medical and scientific studies confirming universal vaccine contamination. It can be found at http://www.industryinet.com/~ruby/vac_coming_thru.html web site.
    42. Orange County Register, "Tainted 1950s Polio Vaccine Might Still Pose Cancer Risks," January 30, 1997. Also: Baylor College of Medicine, "SV-40 Confirmed found in Human Lymphoma Samples," Ogilsko Nosh, March 8, 2002. Also Benjamin McRearden, "What is Coming Through That Needle?" op. cit.
    43. Science, December 15, 1961.
    44. World Net Daily, December 4, 2001.
    45. Benjamin Rearden, op.cit. Also Egyed L. "Replication of Bovine Herpes Virus Type 4 in Human Cells in Vitro," Journal of Clinical Microbiology, July 1998, 36 (7):2109-11. PMID 9650976.
    46. Contreras G., Bather R,Furesz J., Elisberg BL., "Tumorigenicity of Vero Cells," J Biol Stand, October 1984; 12(4): 391-8. PMID 6526826. Also Kopelovich L. "Are All Normal Diploid Human Cell Strains Alike? Relevance to Carcinogenic Mechanism in Vitro," Exp Cell Biology 1982; 50 (5):266-70. PMID 7141068.
    47. Public of Vaccine Safety," July 11, 2002.
    48. Written testimony of Dr. Garth L. Nicolson for the Committee on Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Veterans' Affairs and International Relations, U.S. House of Representatives, January 24, 2002.
    49. The McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, "Germ Warfare Against America: The Desert Storm Plague and Cover-up," August 1996, p. 30.
    50. Nicolson, Written Testimony, op. cit.
    51. Reuters, New York, "U.S. Military Finds That Anthrax Shots May Cause Birth Defects," January 18, 2002.
    52. National Vaccine Information Center, Congressional Testimony, September 28, 1999 "Compensating Vaccine Injuries: Are Reforms Needed?"
    53. Nicolson, Written Testimony, op. cit.
    54. Centers For Disease Control and Prevention, MMWR Updated Smallpox Response Plan and Guidelines, September 23, 2002, p. 13.
    55. Red Flags Weekly, Meryl Nass, MD, "The Controversial Smallpox Vaccine: Eighteen Points You Should Consider, " October 10, 2002.
    56. Reuters, "Vaccine Renaissance Outpaces Sickly Drug Industry," December 5, 2002.
    57. Ibid.


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    Re: Avian Flu a hoax to sell more flu shots?

    20 Reasons Not To Take The Smallpox Vaccination
    by Amy Worthington

    1. George W. Bush has said of smallpox vaccination: "One of my concerns if we were to have universal vaccination, some might lose their life." - The Times (in London), November 09, 2001.

    2. For each million people vaccinated with the smallpox vaccine, as many as 250 could die, according to the American Medical Association. Multiply 250 times 285 (millions of Americans) and the possible deaths from universal smallpox vaccination could equal 71,250. - Journal of the American Medical Association, June 9, 1999, Vol. 281, No. 22, p. 2132.

    3. "The American Medical Association said on Tuesday it was not in favor of an immediate mass U.S.smallpox vaccination program, saying the potential threat of a bioterror attack did not warrant inoculating every American against the disease." - Reuters, December 12, 2001.

    4. "Right now the risk of getting the vaccine is higher than the benefit. You could get a secondary infection, a full-blown systemic infection." - Marie Rau, Panhandle Health District nurse, quoted by The Spokesman-Review, November 20, 2001.

    5. CDC director Jeffrey Koplan has admitted that universal smallpox vaccination could unleash a significant number of side-effects. He said that because many parts of our population do not have a "robust immune system," a fair number of people could have serious reactions. - Koplan speaking on the PBS special "Bioterror Propaganda" aired by WETA, November 14, 2001.

    6. If the entire nation were to receive a smallpox vaccine, several thousand people would likely develop encephalitis, an inflammation of the brain. - Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001.

    7. Roger J. Pomerantz, chief of the infectious disease department at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia, said that doctors have no idea what the smallpox vaccine might do to people at the extremes of life--less than 2 and older than 65. He said that an even greater concern would be its effect on people with weakened immune systems from HIV infection, chemotherapy or transplants. - Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001.

    8. "Researchers have been reluctant to recommend a new vaccination program which would use the smallpox vaccine for the local population because the vaccine can cause disease and death in persons with inadequate immune systems." - Science, Vol. 277, July 18, 1997, pp. 312-13.

    9. Routine smallpox vaccination in the United States ended in 1972. Officials are hesitant to resume the immunizations because the vaccine is the most reactive of all and has been linked to serious side effects, including death. - Reuters, November 29, 2001.

    10. Eight printed pages of medical studies documenting the many serious side effects of smallpox vaccination can be obtained at http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html. See "smallpox vaccine adverse reactions 66-76." [Note: go to the home page above and put "smallpox vaccine adverse reaction" in the search engine.] Repercussions include serious brain and heart diseases, autism, abnormal chromosomal changes, diabetes, various cancers and leukemias, plus demyelination of nerve tissue years after vaccination.

    11. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that vaccination must not be forced on persons whose physical condition would make such vaccination "cruel and inhuman." In other words, the state has no right to command that an individual sacrifice his life in the name of public health. - Jacobsen V. Massachusettes, 197 U.S. 11 (1905).

    12. By the 1920s, several British medical researchers documented that smallpox was not only more common among the VACCINATED, but that the DEATH RATE from smallpox was actually higher among those who had been vaccinated. This indicates that the vaccine was ineffective and predisposed vaccinated persons to more lethal disease. - Vaccination, Dr. Viera Scheibner, Australia, 1993, pp. 205-220.

    13. Getting a vaccination does not guarantee immunity. - CDC, January 28, 1994.

    14. By 1987, scientific evidence indicated that the World Health Organization's 13-year global smallpox vaccination campaign may have awakened dormant HIV infection in many vaccinees. - Times (in London) May 11, 1987.

    15. Vaccines made from animal substrate contain animal viruses that are impossible to filter out. By 1961, scientists discovered that animal viruses in vaccines, including smallpox, could act as a carcinogen when given to mice in combination with cancer-causing chemicals, even in amounts too small to induce tumors alone. They concluded that vaccine viruses function as a catalyst for tumor production. - Science, December 15, 1961.

    16. Some of the new smallpox vaccine doses will be created with animal substrate. Because the vaccine will incorporate vaccinia, the cowpox virus, many wonder about possible mad-cow contamination. Fifty-five million doses of the new vaccine will be created using a cell line dating back to 1966 and cultured from the lung tissues of an aborted human fetus. - World Net Daily, December 4, 2001.

    17. The new smallpox vaccine will be genetically engineered. Many scientists believe that genetically engineered vaccines may be responsible for the global epidemic of auto-immune disease and neurological dysfunction. - American College of Rheumatology, annual meeting, Nov. 8-12, 1998. Merck's genetically engineered hepatitis B vaccine, Recombivax HB, is a classic example. According to Dr. Bonnie Dunbar of Baylor College of Medicine, many thousands of reported adverse reactions to the hepatitis B vaccine include: chronic fatigue, neurological disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and MS-like disease. - Testimony of Dr. Dunbar to Texas Dept. of Health, March 12, 1999.

    Over 15,000 French citizens sued the French government to stop mandatory hepatitis B injections for school children because of resulting auto-immune diseases. - Science, July 31, 1998.

    Dr. John Classen has published voluminous data showing that the hepatitis B and other vaccines are closely linked to the development of insulin dependent diabetes. - Infectious Diseases in Clinical Practice, October 22, 1997.

    18. The British vaccine manufacturer Medeva has a horrendous record of contamination and blunders. In 2000, the FDA found that Medeva was making vaccines in conditions of filth, resulting in contaminated products. Medeva had been illegally using bovine medium to culture its polio vaccines, then lied about it. Medeva also used the blood of a Creutzfeldt-Jakob victim (mad cow) to manufacture 83,000 doses of polio vaccine used for {against?} Irish children. Nevertheless, the FDA allowed the USA to accept Medeva's flu vaccine (Fluvirin) for the year 2000. - London Observer series: October 20-26, 2000.

    19. In 2001, the British socialized health care system was reported to be in a state of collapse, with many hospitals and labs operating in abysmal filth. Five thousand people die each year from infections contracted in British hospitals; 10,000 become deathly ill from such infections. Sterilization procedures are barely adequate and said to be risking the spread of mad cow disease. Government ministers are reportedly trying to hush up the scandal. http://www.itn.co.uk/ Jan 06, 2001; The Sunday Times of London, November 12, 2001.

    20. The U.S. government apparently intends to conduct NO double blind studies on the safety and efficacy of the new smallpox vaccine. It has ordered 286 million doses, one for every man, woman and child in America at a cost of $428 million. At least half of this vaccine will be delivered by Acambis PLC of great Britain.

    Tip of the Week: Keep all vaccine needles away from your body!

    Vaccination Liberation - Idaho Chapter - Ingri Cassel, President
    P.O. Box 1444, Coeur d'Alene, ID 83816
    (208) 255-2307 / 765-8421 Email: [email protected]
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    Bird Flu is a HOAX, wake up already!

    Bush is going NUTS right now, he is going to order all these gloves and wants people to get the vaccines, he is predicting 1.5 million will die... he must be looking into his crystal ball and making ridiculous statements! This is a hoax, so them goons can make money and murder as many people as they can... anyone that has a weak respiratory system and immune system will obviously die for the Tamiflu, who knows what poisons that are in there, like LIVE bird flu, duck whatever and plus the toxic poisons, that erode the myelin shealth and damages the central nervous system, causes the disease of seizures... To bring in the new world order!!! Some person wrote under my Tamiflu is too weak, you people have to read all this, THIS IS SUCH A WICKED HOAX... http://www.nomorefakenews.com Jon is a famous writer, he has interviewed this man who knows all about how chickens are raised on these chicken farms, go down on your left side and click on to archives, starting from 2005-10-10 then after reading that go to 2005-10-13 that tells you EVERYTHING... read all the articles he has written pertaining to the Bird flu and read the last article dated April something.... now you can see how this is a HOAX, and you will see how CORRUPT the GOV is, the WHO the world health organization is, the FDA, the CC. Wake up, this is a hoax! Read this last article how they are doing the new test... this is insane! Bush, Rum-Dum, Dum-CHeney, and 34 senators and who knows who else has INVESTED thousands of dollars into the TAMIFLU... you know there is a NEW LAW, if anyone gets INJURED by TAMIFLU, or dies which thousands will that have a weak immune system, respiratory problems, babies, children the elderly, sick people in hospitals, people who have cancers. WILL ALL DIE! ANd the ones that do die and get nerve damages, WE CAN NOT SUE THE DRUG COMPANIES... that is a NEW LAW.... This is unconstitional and NO ONE CAN FORCE YOU TO TAKE A VACCINE.... OH but you people remember the PATRIOT ACT.... this will force us to take the vaccines... NOT ME... No one will force me to take CRAP POISON into my BLOOD STREAM... The more people who know this is a HOAX and we spread news that is A HOAX, they the SCUMBAGS THE BUSH COMPANY GOONS will LOSE MILLIONS... They don't care about US... BUsh is pushing for this, he is going NUTS he wants this to HAPPEN. BY the way, 1918 was not a FLU, I suggest you people to do your homework, do your searches, Put in your search, Eleanor McBean, she lived in that time, there was never a SPANISH FLU, it is what the doctors put in the vaccines, drs as you know, they like to put the blame on someone else all the time... they had to put the blame on SPAIN .. but they are the ones that put all types of toxins in the vaccines and killed MILLIONS and the ones that REFUSED the VACCINES never got SICK.... So read what she wrote she wrote a few books and read HOW DEADLY and DANGEROUS VACCINES ARE... FLu shot does not prevent one from a COLD/FLU, if you eat too many starches, it has to come out, there fore your body gets a fever to burn the junk in your system, this is the common cold or flu same thing! You do not get cold or flu from GERMS that is the greatest MYTH circulating for years and years, it is what you eat. So getting a flu shot, gives you a sickness and it DEPRESSES YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM, it is WORTHLESS, the drug companies know this, BUT it is such a GREAT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ MAKER, and the doctors know this too, they make a % from the drug companies! Your body is injected with TOXIC CHEMICALS... Read what is in those toxic vaccines. They induce cancers and all types of problems to the body. BIRD FLU IS A HOAX.... Get educated before the BUSH GOONS brainwash you. I hope he and cheney keep consuming their DIET SODAS....

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