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    Hello Everybody... I am looking for some help.

    I am looking to start my own home-based business and came acrossed a company called VMDIRECT (also..."helloworld?"). I think they are based out of Las Vegas? I guess they sell video communication capability over the computer....I have a couple of questions....

    1.) Does anyone know anything about the company? Its Leadership? Etc... What they have to offer? (I keep hearing about this Richard Kall fellow....supposedly a "Legend" ?????) I've never heard of him! :p

    2.) Is this technology a big deal? It seems like it is a service I can get for free via Yahoo, Microsoft, and soon Google....? Does anyone know about this "Video COnferencing" and if it really is as big of a deal as I am being told?

    And lastly...

    3.) Isn't this sort of the same thing as VOIP? My husband and I have a videophone and wonder if this is even something to look into marketing if it can even compete with what is going on now with VOIP?

    Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. The start-up costs for this business are pretty high (well, for me atleast....more than I was initially looking to spend), so I want to make sure its a good opportunity before I move forward...Thanks!
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    Re: VMDirect? HELP!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Looking4aBusiness
    Hello Everybody... I am looking for some help.

    I am looking to start my own home-based business and came acrossed a company called VMDIRECT (also..."helloworld?"). I think they are based out of Las Vegas? I guess they sell video communication capability over the computer....I have a couple of questions....

    1.) Does anyone know anything about the company? Its Leadership? Etc... What they have to offer? (I keep hearing about this Richard Kall fellow....supposedly a "Legend" ?????) I've never heard of him! :p

    2.) Is this technology a big deal? It seems like it is a service I can get for free via Yahoo, Microsoft, and soon Google....? Does anyone know about this "Video COnferencing" and if it really is as big of a deal as I am being told?

    And lastly...

    3.) Isn't this sort of the same thing as VOIP? My husband and I have a videophone and wonder if this is even something to look into marketing if it can even compete with what is going on now with VOIP?

    Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. The start-up costs for this business are pretty high (well, for me atleast....more than I was initially looking to spend), so I want to make sure its a good opportunity before I move forward...Thanks!
    Hi there, Look...

    I dont know a whole lot about the company, but i do have a friend that got involved this summer. It seems like a neat service, but there are free "equivalents" out there... all you need is a webcam and the internet and you can send live streaming video, so you really shouldnt have to pay for this service....i guess what differentiates this service from others is that you can send a "video-email"(???).... i know that the service is like $10 a month (on top of your normal email/internet provider) for the basic, and up to $40 a month for the unlimited plans... (sort of pricey to add on top of the monthly fee you are already paying for internet access, dont you think?)

    plus, i think you bring up a good point about the voip....if a customer has high speed internet access already, why would a customer get this service when they can just talk face-to-face via voip usage? (voip is WAY CHEAPER)...

    my concern is the cost of business.... to make any money, you need to "buy in" at the start-up fee of $2,000 then pay a monthly fee of something like $200!!!! that is HIGH! really HIGH!!! (if i am wrong on those numbers, somebody please correct me...)

    my friend is really excited about it, but i will say she seems to have gotten REALLY into it. she told me that all her friends think she is in a cult...she is moving in with her upline in vegas, etc.

    if anyone has ANY info on this company, i would appreciate it as well....for my friends sake. thanks!
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    Just wanted to clear up a few things about VMDirect and Helloworld. First, you DO NOT have to pay $2000 to sign up and $200 a month! They have affiliate programs for as little as $69 start up and $65 or less monthly membership. There is a $2000 package for confident beginners or you CAN upgrade to the more expensive levels once you achieve success. Second, VMDirect and Helloworld.com IS NOT the same as other "free" services. I challenge anyone who has "free" video email to get it working and use it over and over again with success. Chances are, you won't be able to, due to large video file sizes, software conflicts, slow IP servers, etc. Helloworld v-mail stores your mail on THEIR severs, so when you view it, you are viewing it from their server, just like a movie clip. You DON'T have to have high-speed, but it helps, and you are not consistently down loading and uploading huge video files to your PC. Others don't even have to have the service to view your video emails. You can even attach docs or links to your video mails, customize your V-mail/home page. Plus, Hellomail is a full service email client package to replace anything you're now using, including regular text messaging. In addition, you also recieve FREE live Instant Message video chat. It's that simple. Yes, live streaming clear video chat free with your Helloworld.com. It will take work to sell the product, but like it or not, Video mail is the next big thing as well as live video chat. If anyone is interested in the product, they simply click on links on your video mail page and their sale credit goes to you. Telephone service as we know will soon be obsolete with this technology. As far as a good opportunity for you, I think with hard work and a little luck you can make money from their system. The most important part is it can be RESIDUAL income. I just became a VMDirect Affiliate about a week ago so I don't have some incredible success story to share yet but their video mail is a really nice product that WORKS. Just do your research, don't just read my opinion or the previous post.
    I'll be glad to direct you to more information about VMDirect.
    Just give me a call @ 615-714-5484
    WES

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    IMHO. Video E-mail is not a "hot new trend" .

    Most people prefer to hide behind the anonimity of the screen.

    Video phone technology has been around for many years, why hasn't it taken off?

    As I said, most people prefer not being seen. Video email, a "Hot new trend"?

    I don't think so.

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    "I challenge anyone who has "free" video email to get it working and use it over and over again with success."

    Comcast has a free video email service that is just as easy to use as VMdirect's.

    Also, many of the top companies such as Microsoft and Yahoo have video enabled services where you can view video related content for free with great quality and a bigger selection of video related media.

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    It was being pushed massively in the UK along with the other one MVT. Seems to have gone a bit quiet of late. It appears there is no emphasis on customers rather it relies on it's own members to generate all the demand for the product.
    In the very near future with the advent of faster and faster bandwidth video streaming will be available to everyone for free.

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    you know what? i was afraid of this.....

    i got the feeling from my friend that it was simply a recruiting company instead of a customer acquisition company... she even told me that she thought that meeting with someone about the business and they only become a customer was a failure of a meeting and a waste of her time....at that point, there was a red flag going off in my head...

    from everyone that i have spoken with about the business...it seems like it is a totally front-loaded business....and the comp plan is structured so that it is possible for a new business partner to be brought into the business and the upline (the sponser of the person that just brought in the new business partner) gets the bonus money...that right there seemed odd to me...(and i know that this happened from my friend)

    plus, i agree that the long-term viability of the product itself is fleeting. simply put....who cares about sending video messages? think about it....cell phones now have video cameras on them....if you really wanted, you could send a video message using your cell phone!!! and the video conferencing has been around for years and you can get it all over the place for free (with GREAT quality and very reliable....the firm i work for uses it everyday!) you can get it through microsoft, yahoo, and soon....google (already announced)...

    that being said, i think that this is one of those companies that a few people who got in a 18 months to 2 years ago will do well....but any of the new guys will make squat and the company will definitey go under (or sell the technology...and all the reps will be left out in the cold!)....

    also, the leadership is questionable (at best)....my friend got roped into some very strange, scary, cult-like behavior.... she was talked into leaving her job to pursue this full-time (she isnt making enough money with it yet to rationally make that decision...she has been in it since the summertime)...and he talked her into moving in with him. he has told her who she should and shouldnt talk to....its just weird. i wish her all the luck in the world, but i just have a bad feeling about where this company is headed....hopefully i am wrong.

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    The competition for the new and emerging technologies is massive and quite complicated. Let them all squabble it out until the clear winner emerges allowing the consumer to make an educated choice. With so many millions of people online it will be one of the Industry giants not a two man operation from Utah who emerge triumphant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGfranky75
    he has told her who she should and shouldnt talk to
    Funny, but a friend of mine's upline did the same thing. The company was ACN. I guess he was one of the "bad ones."

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    Quote Originally Posted by openQuestion
    Funny, but a friend of mine's upline did the same thing. The company was ACN. I guess he was one of the "bad ones."
    oh yeah....no doubt about it. unfortunately, there are bad apples in every basket....in this industry its one of those unfortunate things you just cant escape. its the nature of the business, i guess...

    i mean, there is nothing wrong with "steering people clear" or warning them about the problems that result in negative influences....but trying to control somebody to the point of letting them know who they can or cant talk to is just way too much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGfranky75
    oh yeah....no doubt about it. unfortunately, there are bad apples in every basket....in this industry its one of those unfortunate things you just cant escape. its the nature of the business, i guess...

    i mean, there is nothing wrong with "steering people clear" or warning them about the problems that result in negative influences....but trying to control somebody to the point of letting them know who they can or cant talk to is just way too much...
    But isn't it amazing how many of the so-called "bad ones" are actually at the top of the heap, as this person was (and is)? Unfortunately, bad ethics in this business do NOT lead to failure. Just once I'd like to meet a "real" person who made it to the top in MLM and did not compromise his/her ethics. Maybe it's not possible.

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    I did join vm direct in the UK and did it for 3 months. I was told that the product will sell itself. I sent out hundreds of video emails and called people up to discuss their thoughts and subscribing to the service, but no one was interested. Most people did not even view the video emails.

    I think that things have been hyped up a bit. The glossey web site made it look such a great business opportunity.

    Any way Skype are bringing out a new video service soon and it will be free. The sound quality of Skype is far superior to any else out there on the market at the moment.

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    Good for you searching mlm an honest appraisal.

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    I am new to VMDirect and network marketing in general. I am not new to the power of video. I am a video systems engineeer for a large Las Vegas Casino. I have designed and engineered most of the infrastructure from the ground up. I believe if you look at any of the others that are claiming to "do" video, you will find a steep learning curve as well as a certain amount of built in failure. Helloworld has spent considerable money in the area of infrastructure to support a million online video clients today. That would be the first thing to consider. The HelloIM (Instant Messenger) application is easy and facilitates up to six simultaneous users with video chat. The HelloLive application has built in presentation slide and poll capabilities for as little as 9.95 a month. The product is reliable and comes supported by a very responsive technical support staff. There will be problems with any new technology, but you are hard pressed to find an equal today in the market place.

    Video teleconferencing has been around for many years, and yes they are reliable. They also cost thousands of dollalrs in upfront hardware and you typically communicate via a data line. If your company has a spare ISDN or T1 then your looking good. If not...look to spend a couple hundred to a thousand dollars per connection in monthly costs.

    As far as the "Cult Like" comment.....well I would have to agree. I have been to many many meetings and have found them to be glorifed "pep rallys". Although I haven't personally witnessed any animal sacrifices or people running around with underwear on their heads. It is a large gathering of highly motivated, highly positive people "networking". MLM isn't for everyone, yet there are many of you with plastic kitchen gadgets, candles, soaps, cosmetics and even herbal remedies that you wouldn't even know about if someone hadn't told you.

    I haven't been in MLM before. I haven't made a million dollars yet, but I am here and I am very enthusiastic about the product. It's also very interesting that one of the first threads happens to include a link to a corporate web conferencing company and a company that sells video teleconferencing stations. Thank you for your time.

    Ron Warren
    Independant Affiliate - VMDirect
    www.helloworld.com/rwarren
    http://www.vmdirect2.com/US/products.aspx?ID=rwarren
    Last edited by rwarren; 11-28-2005 at 10:23 PM. Reason: Spelling Errors & Context Errors

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    Well said Ron!

    I have been involved with VMDirect since the launch of their Network and I can testify that the founders behind VMDirect/Helloworld are as solid as they come. There is over 62 Million behind this technology, and the CEO & President have been streaming video online since 1996 and were two of the first to ever do it.

    There is more to streaming video than sitting behind a web cam and chatting with friends and family. Businesses will grasp this technology and already have been, as they can steam video online to a greater targeted audience for a lot less, and able to track views very effectively.

    Those of you reading this thread, I highly recommend doing further Due Diligence on this company and it's founders. Send me a text email, and with one click on my mouse I can reply to you in video.

    Leighton Thetford
    Ind. Affiliate
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    http://www.usevideo.com

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    Hi,

    I joined VMDirect in November 2005. I have 15 years IT experience. The company is really excellent in their support and compensation plans. Like all markets there is competition but feature for feature the products are well ahead of competitors. As for only selling to affiliates in the network this is not true.

    I have done just 2 small demonstrations and I have a major charity and holiday/hotel company very interested in using the products.

    Friends and family love it and are telling all their friends about it. Like everything some things are appealing to certain people.

    All networking businesses take time and hard work to build. It appeals to people who don't like 9-5 office jobs.

    Anyone who advises someone to give up their day job for a network marketing business is giving some very stupid advice. MLM's take time and can not give big incomes overnight.

    Video is the future of the internet.

    http://www.getworldpassport.com/multimedia-era

    Thanks

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