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    Great Article On MLM

    http://www.aitse.org/no-your-mlm-doesnt-work/

    Clearly the only logical conclusion is that selling a product via MLM bestows some magical properties allowing it to cure nearly anything or everything. Wait that isn’t logical, is it? Well I can’t think of another reason for the claims… or can I? What’s Behind All These MLM Health Claims There are a number of factors at play with these claims:

    The Placebo Effect – This provides the most obvious answer as to why people feel these products help them. The American Cancer Society says that placebos have an effect in 1 of 3 people.

    Spontaneous Improvement Regardless of Intervention – Sometimes things get better over time even without intervention. Many distributors are subject to drawing a causation between taking a product and the condition getting better when no such causation exists. The Latin for this fallacy is Post hoc ergo propter hoc, which means “after this, therefore because of this.” This is sometimes referred to as the “Rooster Syndrome”; “believing that the rooster’s crowing causes the sun to rise.”

    Observer-Expectancy Effect – Since the products are usually pitched with the health claims, one taking the product may have this expectation. Conscious Deception – Let’s call a spade a spade. It’s very difficult to convince people to buy $40 bottles of juice when they are used to spending $4 for juice. One of the easiest ways to close this gap is to pitch the product as an alternative to costlier medicines. I’m not saying that every MLM distributor is dishonest, but let’s agree that some are. What percentage? It’s impossible to say.

    Price-Placebo Effect – As the Washington Post reported, people who were able to buy identical energy drinks at different prices showed very significant differences in unscrambling words. Even though the researchers made clear that the drinks were identical, those paying more had better performance. The researchers concluded, “The price-placebo effect comes from the fact that you form this global belief that low price equals low quality.” The article also showed, “A wine connoisseur who pays extra feels different from someone who pays less for the same bottle of wine, because the larger financial investment increases the motivation to be satisfied.” So when I show that Youngevity products’ prices are 4 times Amazon’s for nearly equivalent nutrition, I get a response from distributors that they “feel” the difference.

    Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs – Belonging – Abraham Maslow put Belongingness amongst his 8 basic needs of humans. The MLM “business opportunity” is a group and when others in the group are making health claims, it would be reasonable for someone else to do the same in order to “belong” to the group. Social Proof From a Trusted Friend – Many of these products are introduced by a friend or family, who are often quite zealous about the product and the “business opportunity.” This enthusiasm coming from a trusted source creates an obvious motivation for wanting the product to “work.”

    Cognitive dissonance – Cognitive dissonance can be thought of a person altering reality to fit his/her perception. Specifically, the Wikipedia article claims, “After someone has performed dissonant behavior, they may find external consonant elements. A snake oil salesman may find a justification for promoting falsehoods (e.g. large personal gain), but may otherwise need to change his views about the falsehoods themselves.” This is the same kind of phenomenon that is found in those predicting the world is going to end, except at least with those people there is a clear expiration on their erroneous belief… when the world doesn’t end. Unfortunately, with MLM health products, there is no clear and obvious end-result that can be pointed to.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
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    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Great Article On MLM

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Its quite simple...do it properly, don't make health claims. You'll learn jokey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    Its quite simple...do it properly, don't make health claims. You'll learn jokey.
    Too bad so many MLM reps don't heed that advice. Take Herbalife for example.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Too bad so many MLM reps don't heed that advice. Take Herbalife for example.
    How many in Herbalife make illegal claims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    How many in Herbalife make illegal claims?
    Lots of them.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/investigati...ry?id=27811094

    A year-long investigation, in which ABC News sent two reporters undercover as Herbalife recruits, revealed in April a company that has struggled to prevent its distributors from embellishing the financial prospects of a sales career there and hyping the health benefits of its products.

    ABC News found that nearly 600 independent distributors of the diet and nutrition sales brand Herbalife had been disciplined in 2013 for making medical claims when selling the company’s weight-loss shakes and supplements, despite company policies aimed at preventing such tactics.
    Herbalife rep claiming Herbalife can cure brain cancer:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/caught...ry?id=23441488
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Lots of them.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/investigati...ry?id=27811094



    Herbalife rep claiming Herbalife can cure brain cancer:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/caught...ry?id=23441488
    600 out of 3 million + distributors.........''lots of them''. Okay jokey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    600 out of 3 million + distributors.........''lots of them''. Okay jokey.
    600 or more victims might disagree with you. Those are only the ones who got caught.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    600 or more victims might disagree with you. Those are only the ones who got caught.
    So, again, how many? You have all the answers jokey, tell us. At the moment its 600 out of 3 million + distributors, a miniscule number. Victims? Did these people die or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    So, again, how many? You have all the answers jokey, tell us. At the moment its 600 out of 3 million + distributors, a miniscule number. Victims? Did these people die or something?
    Watch the video.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Watch the video.
    I did, nothing to see, so you're sticking with 600 out of 3 million plus and calling it ''lots of them''? And you wonder why everyone thinks you're a clown :yelcutelaughA:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    I did, nothing to see, so you're sticking with 600 out of 3 million plus and calling it ''lots of them''? And you wonder why everyone thinks I'm a clown
    And you think that 600 cases of fraud isn't a problem?
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    And you think that 600 cases of fraud isn't a problem?
    FRAUD?? LMAO, they were disciplined by Herbalife for making over zealous claims! You plonker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    FRAUD?? LMAO, they were disciplined by Herbalife for making over zealous claims! You plonker.
    Overzealous claims = false = fraud.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Overzealous claims = false = fraud.
    Fraud is deliberate deception, not an overzealous testimonial given in what someone thinks is good faith. You plonker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    Fraud is deliberate deception, not an overzealous testimonial given in what someone thinks is good faith. You plonker.
    So how do you know it's just over zealous and not outright fraud?
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    So how do you know it's just over zealous and not outright fraud?
    How do you know its not? You're making the claims, you back them up.

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