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    China Scam Alert! Fake TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Fraud Targets ESL Teachers - Teach In China Jobs


    Okay this one is a bit complicated... There is no doubt that the same UK company with the same owners operate both companies. They sell the same "products" (overpriced TEFL courses with a certificate that is not recognized/accepted in most countries). The question is why such a big company that has been operating for over 10 years must use two companies and plenty of deception to target uni students, the elderly, and the unemployed with false promises of a "new career" as an ESL teacher? Here are the facts I learned after playing the role of an interested uni graduate who called in and was told someone would call me back in an hour, and they did. A young friendly girl called me back on Skype and we talked for almost 30 minutes. What she told was 30% truth and 70% lies as follows:

    1. TEFL certificates are absolutely required to teach in China and most other Asian countries (100% False - Over 90% of current foreign teachers in China do not have TEFL training nor a certificate) See: http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=107979

    2. TEFL certificates will get you a better-paying job (Yes, but NOT THEIR CERTIFICATE - Only a CELTA or TESOL certificate) BTW...the pay differential is only about $3,000 more a year IF you also hold a 4 year university degree.

    3. Their TEFL certificate is "internationally accredited and accepted" (FALSE - Their certificate is only recognized and accepted in third world countries like Guatemala, Haiti, Guyana, Indonesia, Uzbekistan, etc. and has "no accreditation by any global organization").

    4. All of the reviews rank them in the top 5 TEFL Trainers. (FALSE - the only positive reviews that put them anywhere in the top 10 are those self-created fake reviews on sites they own, or those they bought and paid for where anyone can buy praise by the word count for roughly $500 - $1,000 a month)

    5. If you sign up and pay "TODAY" you will get a guaranteed job placement (if you hold a 4 year degree) or a guaranteed teaching internship in China after you complete their course. (Bullshit! You can get either of these placements WITHOUT a TEFL certificate!)

    6. They suggest, imply, and even say that if you do not have a university degree their TEFL certificate will get you a teaching job in China. (100% False - Since 2013 you must hold a 4 year university degree to work in China - period. There is no mention in Chinese law about TEFL certificates). You can download a free copy of China's labor laws at this link here and read them for yourself: http://www.bjstuff.com/forum/topics/...ource=activity

    I can go on but why? Six lies was enough for me. Their pricing varies according to how much you are willing to pay. Of course they start high (as much as $2,999) for a comprehensive course and keep dropping until you think you have a real bargain. If you blow them off they will keep calling you twice a week until you block their number and then the endless spam begins.

    They do have a beautiful web site with almost-convincing fake testimonials and a highly-censored community "chalkboard" where any inconvenient question asked (like can you please list the countries where your TEFL certificate is "accredited and accepted"?) or negative comments (like "Why are you guys blacklisted at a lot of forums and with the CTA, China Scam Patrol, China Scam Busters, World Wolf Watch & CFTU?) will be deleted within one hour of you posting them. Some of the below complaints go back to 2007. See:

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...3170222AA7AW44
    http://www.scam.com/f8/warning-i-i-c...r-beware-2586/
    http://worldwolfwatch.wordpress.com
    http://www.abroadreviews.com/warning...om-clever-scam
    http://globalblacklist.org
    http://www.chinascambusters.com
    http://eslwatch.info/china-2/scams-o...-progress.html
    http://ChinaFraudPatrol.blogspot.co.uk.
    http://teflblacklist.blogspot.co.uk/...to-1-tefl.html
    http://internationalteflreviews.wordpress.com
    http://www.scam.com/f8/warning-i-i-c...r-beware-2586/

    There were also a great many complaints at fraudwatchers, scam detector, and rip-off report but it appears some hacker may have been paid to delete them because they just vanished recently.

    To be fair, I would concede that if this was not an online course, but an actual classroom situation, real TEFL training would actually help people become better teachers - than what they already are. HOWEVER... their hype about the "huge demand" for ESL & TEFL teachers is nonsense. Actually there are less and less expats teaching in Asia every year now and around the world as well. Locals in non-English speaking schools are now learning English in their own primary Schools. In China alone there are 6,000 less expat teachers than last year. See: http://www.eslwatch.info/china-2/new...ities-now.html But the facts are not convenient for OnlineTEFL.com sales reps.

    What irks me the most about this group is that they deliberately target the people who can least afford their almost useless product - the elderly, the unemployed, and uni graduates with the bait of earning a "tax-free fortune" overseas. This is a shameful ruse in my opinion. See: http://eslwatch.info/international-2...tefl-scam.html
    Last edited by Curious Carol; 08-11-2014 at 07:53 PM.

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    Re: OnlineTEFL.com & I-to-I.com - Same TEFL & ESL Scam

    Thanks for posting up that information on a scam.

    Making a scammer's scam googlable on every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find is a great way to slow that scammer down when a suspicious potential victim goes looking for information, finds your post containing the name the scammer is using, his email address, phone number and the emails themselves and then that potential victim does not become a scam victim because you took the time "get the word out".
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    China TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Scam Targets Foreign ESL Teachers - BEWARE!


    NOTE: Hackers from the multi-million dollar TEFL & TESOL companies have thrice deleted this post. I pledge to replace it as long as they keep deleting it. Please cut and paste the below and pass along to all your teacher friends, before it disappears again.

    This is the mother of all China scams that is claiming over a thousand victims every month to the tune of about $3 million per month. It is the most believable scam I have ever encountered because hundreds of sales agents and China job recruiters, and fake employment agents will post over a thousand ads every week that offer great, but fake jobs in China with a very clever lie inserted in every ad that says "TEFL Certificate Required" or "TESOL Certificate Required". After seeing so many of these ads online, these endless spam ads get us all to believe that we must have a TEFL or TESOL certificate to get a teaching job in China, which frankly is ABSOLUTELY FALSE! In reality, YOU DO NOT NEED A TEFL NOR TESOL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA!!!

    After a month of waiting for a reply from the Ministry of Education and SAFEA (the Chinese government agency that regulates the employment of foreigners in China), I finally got a reply from the SAFEA's director's office Friday. What did I inquire about? I asked him the following question...

    "Many TEFL & TESOL training companies as well as China job recruiters and agents are insisting that A FOREIGN TEACHER MUST HAVE A TESOL OR TEFL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA. Is this true and if so can you please cite the exact law for me?"

    His reply in part is as follows and I quote...

    "There has never been any legal or other requirement for foreign teachers to have neither a TEFL nor TESOL certificate to teach in China. Unfortunately a few unethical job recruiters and companies that sell TEFL & TESL training have been telling teachers otherwise".

    He also went on to confirm...

    "The current and only legal requirements for a foreigner to work in China are the
    following:


    1. Bachelor degree from any accredited university
    2. Minimum of 21 years of age
    3. Two years prior work experience
    4. Fluency in the English language
    5. Police certificate confirming no criminal record
    6. A valid passport and work visa (Z visa)"


    Based on this response it is now very clear that the below TEFL & TESOL companies and the HR agents and recruiters have been lying just to make more sales of expensive training courses that we don't need that range in price from $99 to $4,999! Do the math...

    Now there are two other deviations of this scam that are explained quite well at this link:
    http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/vie...p?f=34&t=88874

    If you doubt any of the above you can confirm directly with your own embassy, the Chinese consulate or visit the SAFEA websiite at http://SAFEA.gov.cn or http://www.chinascambusters.com. If YOU get solicited and told the above lie, please post the name of the party you spoke with and their company and their email here in this thread to help warn others. The CFTU already has a great blacklist of about 150 such offenders on their website.

    Someone tried to create a "China's Liar List" at Dave's ESLcafe.com but after about 30 companies/individuals were listed people realized that half of them bought paid advertising on that forum and admin locked the thread! This is proof that you can never fully trust what you read at ESL forums and message boards. Paid advertising takes priority over your welfare and scam safety! The same is true at echinacities.com


    Over the coming week I will collect the names of of the offenders from the various China Blacklists and post them here, so check back in a few days.
    Last edited by Curious Carol; 08-26-2014 at 07:11 PM.

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    Re: China TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Scam Targets Foreign ESL Teachers - BEWARE!

    As promised I did further research and the two biggest offenders are both caught in the act at this link lying to people about needing TEFL certs to teach in China:

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...3144215AArCA6N

    Spread the word to avoid ICAL and OnlineTEFL.com which also does business under another more famous name i-to-i

    You will note at the above link that both companies deliberate omit the fact that YOU MUST HAVE A BACHELOR DEGREE TO TEACH IN CHINA! Yet they suggest all you need is a TEFL certificate.

    There are many other such shysters but they are nowhere as large as the two mentioned above, and include:

    TEFLAcademy.com
    HappyTEFL.com
    ChinaTEFL.com
    ESLinsider.com
    JourneyEast.com & JourneysEast.com
    TEFLChina.com

    Feel free to add to this list if you deal with a company that lies to you about MUST having a TEFL, TESOL, or CELTA certificate to get a teaching job in China.
    Last edited by Curious Carol; 08-30-2014 at 06:54 PM.

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    Re: OnlineTEFL.com & I-to-I.com - Same TEFL & ESL Scam

    At this link they are caught in the act lying to people along with their major competitor ICAL.

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...3144215AArCA6N

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    China TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Scam Targets Newbie Foreign Teachers

    NOTE TO MODS: This is NOT the same OnlineTEFL.com or i-to-i.com scam although they are known to participate in this lying. OnlineTEFL.com and it sister company i-to-i.com are notorius for FAKE TEACHER INTERNSHIPS (Read other thread) The scam described below involves 19 different companies and hundreds of agents lying about the OFFICIAL TEACHER REQUIREMENTS OF CHINA and has nothing to do with the Fake Teacher Internships.



    This is the mother of all China scams that is claiming over a thousand victims every month to the tune of about $3 million per month. It is the most believable scam I have ever encountered because hundreds of sales agents and China job recruiters, and fake employment agents will post over a thousand ads every week that offer great, but fake jobs in China with a very clever lie inserted in every ad that says "TEFL Certificate Required" or "TESOL Certificate Required". After seeing so many of these ads online, these endless spam ads get us all to believe that we must have a TEFL or TESOL certificate to get a teaching job in China, which frankly is ABSOLUTELY FALSE! In reality, YOU DO NOT NEED A TEFL NOR TESOL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA!!!

    After a month of waiting for a reply from the Ministry of Education and SAFEA (the Chinese government agency that regulates the employment of foreigners in China), I finally got a reply from the SAFEA's director's office Friday. What did I inquire about? I asked him the following question...

    "Many TEFL & TESOL training companies as well as China job recruiters and agents are insisting that A FOREIGN TEACHER MUST HAVE A TESOL OR TEFL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA. Is this true and if so can you please cite the exact law for me?"

    His reply in part is as follows and I quote...

    "There has never been any legal or other requirement for foreign teachers to have neither a TEFL nor TESOL certificate to teach in China. Unfortunately a few unethical job recruiters and companies that sell TEFL & TESL training have been telling teachers otherwise".

    He also went on to confirm...

    "The current and only legal requirements for a foreigner to work in China are the
    following:


    1. Bachelor degree from any accredited university
    2. Minimum of 21 years of age
    3. Two years prior work experience
    4. Fluency in the English language
    5. Police certificate confirming no criminal record
    6. A valid passport and work visa (Z visa)"


    Based on this response it is now very clear that the below TEFL & TESOL companies and the HR agents and recruiters have been lying just to make more sales of expensive training courses that we don't need that range in price from $99 to $4,999! Do the math...

    Now there are two other deviations of this scam that are explained quite well at this link:
    http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/vie...p?f=34&t=88874

    If you doubt any of the above you can confirm directly with your own embassy, the Chinese consulate or visit the SAFEA websiite at http://SAFEA.gov.cn or http://www.chinascambusters.com. If YOU get solicited and told the above lie, please post the name of the party you spoke with and their company and their email here in this thread to help warn others. The CFTU already has a great blacklist of about 150 such offenders on their website.

    Someone tried to create a "China's Liar List" at Dave's ESLcafe.com but after about 30 companies/individuals were listed people realized that half of them bought paid advertising on that forum and admin locked the thread! This is proof that you can never fully trust what you read at ESL forums and message boards. Paid advertising takes priority over your welfare and scam safety! The same is true at echinacities.com

    By the way, China Scam Patrol caught and recorded sales people from ICAL and other TEFL training companies outright liying to prospects and yuo may want to visit their sites at http://ChinaScamPatrol.wordpress.com and http://www.ChinaScamPatrol.org


    Over the coming week I will collect the names of of the offenders from the various China Blacklists and post them here, so check back in a few days.
    Last edited by Curious Carol; 08-31-2014 at 06:52 PM.

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    China Scam Alert! Fake TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Fraud Targets ESL Teachers - Teach In China Jobs

    NOTE: Hackers from the multi-million dollar TEFL & TESOL companies have deleted this post five times in the last 10 days. I pledge to replace it as long as they keep deleting it. Please cut and paste the below and pass along to all your teacher friends, before it disappears again.


    This is the mother of all China scams that is claiming over a thousand victims every month to the tune of about $3 million per month. It is the most believable scam I have ever encountered because hundreds of sales agents and China job recruiters, and fake employment agents will post over a thousand ads every week that offer great, but fake jobs in China with a very clever lie inserted in every ad that says "TEFL Certificate Required" or "TESOL Certificate Required". After seeing so many of these ads online, these endless spam ads get us all to believe that we must have a TEFL or TESOL certificate to get a teaching job in China, which frankly is ABSOLUTELY FALSE! In reality, YOU DO NOT NEED A TEFL NOR TESOL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA!!!

    After a month of waiting for a reply from the Ministry of Education and SAFEA (the Chinese government agency that regulates the employment of foreigners in China), I finally got a reply from the SAFEA's director's office Friday. What did I inquire about? I asked him the following question...

    "Many TEFL & TESOL training companies as well as China job recruiters and agents are insisting that A FOREIGN TEACHER MUST HAVE A TESOL OR TEFL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA. Is this true and if so can you please cite the exact law for me?"

    His reply in part is as follows and I quote...

    "There has never been any legal or other requirement for foreign teachers to have neither a TEFL nor TESOL certificate to teach in China. Unfortunately a few unethical job recruiters and companies that sell TEFL & TESL training have been telling teachers otherwise".

    He also went on to confirm...

    "The current and only legal requirements for a foreigner to work in China are the
    following:

    1. Bachelor degree from any accredited university
    2. Minimum of 21 years of age
    3. Two years prior work experience
    4. Fluency in the English language
    5. Police certificate confirming no criminal record
    6. A valid passport and work visa (Z visa)"


    Based on this response it is now very clear that the below TEFL & TESOL companies and the HR agents and recruiters have been lying just to make more sales of expensive training courses that we don't need that range in price from $99 to $4,999! Do the math...

    Now there are two other deviations of this scam that are explained quite well at this link:
    http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/vie...p?f=34&t=88874

    If you doubt any of the above you can confirm directly with your own embassy, the Chinese consulate or visit the SAFEA website at http://SAFEA.gov.cn or http://www.chinascambusters.com. If YOU get solicited and told the above lie, please post the name of the party you spoke with and their company and their email here in this thread to help warn others. The CFTU already has a great blacklist of about 150 such offenders on their website.

    Someone tried to create a "China's Liar List" at Dave's ESLcafe.com but after about 30 companies/individuals were listed people realized that half of them bought paid advertising on that forum and admin locked the thread! This is proof that you can never fully trust what you read at ESL forums and message boards. Paid advertising takes priority over your welfare and scam safety! The same is true at echinacities.com

    Over the coming week I will collect the names of the offenders from the various China Blacklists and post them here, so check back in a few days.
    Last edited by Curious Carol; 09-01-2014 at 05:21 PM.

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    Re: China Scam Alert! Fake TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Fraud Targets ESL Teachers - Teach In China Jobs

    As promised I did further research and the two biggest offenders are both caught in the act at this link lying to people about needing TEFL certs to teach in China:

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...3144215AArCA6N

    You will note at the above link that both companies deliberately omit the fact that YOU MUST HAVE A BACHELOR DEGREE TO TEACH IN CHINA! Yet they suggest all you need is a TEFL certificate. And at this link you will find a TEFL sales agent posing as a teacher claiming the Chinese government insists on TEFL & TESOL training. In fact the Chinese government offers TEFL training for FREE 4 times a year - as an OPTION!

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...8175736AAOmSZF

    There are many other such shysters but they are nowhere as large as the two mentioned above, and include:

    TEFLAcademy.com
    HappyTEFL.com
    ICALweb.com
    ChinaTEFL.com
    OnlineTEFL.com
    i-to-i.com
    ESLinsider.com
    JourneyEast.com & JourneysEast.com
    TEFLChina.com

    There are 19 such TEFL/TESOL scam companies and as soon as China scam Patrol catches the rest of them on tape, I will add them to the above list.

    More about this fraud can be found at http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com

    Feel free to add to this list if you deal with a company that lies to you about MUST having a TEFL, TESOL, or CELTA certificate to get a teaching job in China.
    Last edited by Curious Carol; 09-01-2014 at 07:06 PM.

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    Re: OnlineTEFL.com & I-to-I.com - Same TEFL & ESL Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Meri Widow View Post
    Thanks for posting up that information on a scam.

    Making a scammer's scam googlable on every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find is a great way to slow that scammer down when a suspicious potential victim goes looking for information, finds your post containing the name the scammer is using, his email address, phone number and the emails themselves and then that potential victim does not become a scam victim because you took the time "get the word out".
    Chinese ESL & TEFL Teacher Job Recruiters Getting Foreign Teachers Wrongfully Deported...


    INTERESTING UPDATE: hhttp://www.bjstuff.com/profiles/blo...rted-forttp://

    I also received a PM at another forum (expat travel forum) from a young girl who was deported for working on an L visa 9 months ago, and she just got rejected for a visa to go to her sister's wedding in France! She was told she now has "a history of immigration regulatory problems" because of her China visa violation and deportation. She was also told that even when the 5 year reentry ban in China expires, she will still be flagged on the international ICE database!

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    Re: China Scam Alert! Fake TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Fraud Targets ESL Teachers - Teach In China Jobs

    I met a guy named Randy in Wudaokou last year who wanted me to run ads for him and offered to pay me $100 for every resume I could get him and to be used as a paid "reference" for him to tell people I worked in China for 3 years on an "L" visa with no problems. I did it for two weeks before I found out that L visa employees were breaking the law and then I quit after making some decent money. As I recall Randy had about a dozen people doing this for him. He was working for some foreign guy named Keith who I met one time. Judging by his accent he is probably from New York or New Jersey.
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    Re: China Scam Alert! Fake TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Fraud Targets ESL Teachers - Teach In China Jobs

    I came back to read the update and it is gone! Who is doing the deleting and why?

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    Re: China Scam Alert! Fake TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Fraud Targets ESL Teachers - Teach In China Jobs



    UPDATE
    (Reposted) On Septmber 16 the CHINA DAILY MAIL released this "announcement" which TEFL & TESOL peddlers immediately pounced on to use in their revised sales pitches.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_18602809.htm

    Unfortunately for them, if you read the release carefully, it does not quote any official sources nor even a government official. Also just by reading the title you should notice the word "may", which conversely also means "may not".

    So rather that speculate, I contacted the SAFEA Beijing office (the government agency responsible for making such regulations) and was told the following by a woman who said her name is Crystal

    "No official changes have been made, and that China Daily announcement did not come from our office. If and when there are any changes they will be officially posted on our website (http://safea.gov.cn)"


    So nothing has changed friends and even if the alleged "new requirements" were put in effect tomorrow, they would only affect Beijing which accounts for about 30% of all the foreign teachers in China. And... the TEFL/TESOL certificate requirement proposed, would only be for kindergarten teachers in Beijing, about 5% of all the foreign teachers now working in China.

    In closing, anyone who has lived or worked in China for a few years in marketing or journalism knows very well that for less than $3,000 you can get anything that is not political published in a Chinese newspaper. People buy articles here and you are not required to print "advertorial" on the page like we must in the West. This is exactly why there is no official ministry nor official named in the China Daily piece that was then announced verbatim at the CRI and China.org.cn web site. To see the current China foreign teacher requirements as they are today October 13, 2014 visit the following web sites and believe nothing else told to you:

    http://safea.gov.cn

    http://open.salon.com/blog/china_bus...nts_now_strict

    http://shenyang.usembassy-china.org.cn/teach.html

    The truth is sometimes not convenient for those trying to sell you training programs for foreign teacher jobs, and they really hoped you did not find this thread. Please share this information with your teacher colleagues and help STOP THE FOREIGN TEACHER JOB & TRAINING FRAUDS! Xie xie.


    UPDATE II:

    I found this at eslcafe.com and relay it to you in case recruiters persist spoon-feeding you misinformation about China Foreign Teacher Requirements.

    "P.S. For those who want to check for themselves you can do so 5 ways:

    1) Call 86-10-68948899 and ask for Education department

    2) Send an email to [email protected]

    3) Send a fax to "Crystal" at 86-10-68468006 (She speaks English well)

    4) Visit http://safea.gov.cn and read the requirements section

    5) Visit their office on the first floor of bldg. 6 at the Friendship Hotel in Haidian next to BIT University (Subway Line 4 - Renmin University Station) but bring your passport or you cannot get into the building

    If you choose the email route be prepared to wait 15-30 days for an answer. You can also call the American embassy in Beijing when you have 20 minutes to hold, listen to endless messages, be transferred, and then told "someone will call you back later" or "just check the website".
    Last edited by Curious Carol; 10-13-2014 at 08:24 PM.

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    Re: China Scam Alert! Fake TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Fraud Targets ESL Teachers - Teach In China Jobs

    Confusion is a great sales tool for the China job agents, recruiters, and the TEFL sales people. Here's some proof ------>

    http://chinascamalert.wordpress.com/...uncement-hoax/


    https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/vi...p?f=34&t=88874
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    2015 China Foreign Teacher Requirements - Same As 2014?


    Here you go friends... In preparation for all the new 2015 schemes the sly China job recruiters and agents will soon be peddling:

    http://open.salon.com/blog/china_bus...nts_now_strict

    THERE ARE NO NEW CHANGES FOR 2015! SO YOU DO NOT NEED A TEFL, TESOL, OR CELTA CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA UNLESS YOU WANT TO WORK FOR THE EF CHAIN.

    YOU MUST HAVE A BACHELOR DEGREE, VALID Z VISA, AND A REAL DIPLOMA!


    However, we have spotted 6 new scams going down in China that target teachers and you can read about them here at http://chinascamwatch.org.

    The good news is that as a China foreign teacher working in China, you have 15 employee rights that 70% of China expats never even knew existed. You can read them at http://www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.com
    Last edited by Curious Carol; 12-22-2014 at 08:54 PM.

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    Re: China Scam Alert! Fake TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Fraud Targets ESL Teachers - Teach In China Jobs

    SOLUTION: Lets all scam bait the China scammers! When you find a dishonest company pretend to be an interested and gullible mark and waste as much of their time as possible. See how long you can string them along and bombard them with emails and tie up their Skype lines. if you are local (in the same city with the scammer) set your phone or fax machine or both on "auto-redial" a few hundred times. And most importantly start a chain letter email and use a reddit post to make sure people are warned. The best defense is an overwhelming offense. Just devoting 30 minutes a day can put one of these fraudsters out if business if you pick one scam and stay in them like flies of shit. Let's start with this company here or pick your own scam from hundreds. Thanks and have fun. I will start a separate China Scam Baiter Club Thread to share any good stuff we learn I the process.
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    Re: China Scam Alert! Fake TEFL & TESOL Certificate Requirement Fraud Targets ESL Teachers - Teach In China Jobs

    It is indeed true that the EF chain will require you to have a TEFL certificate if you want to work with them. But having a teaching certificate (CELTA, TESOL, or TEFL) is not a mandatory teaching requirement in China, although in my personal opinion it should be. Some companies like Web offer their own TEFL program. I think the biggest problem with these courses is standardization. How much can you really learn from just a software based online course?
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