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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Jesus is likely nothing more than a fable...
    As long as it is acceptable for a person to beLIEve that he knows how god wants everyone on Earth to live, we will continue to murder one another on account of our myths. ~ Sam Harris, 'The End Of Faith'
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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Josephus says you're wrong

    But you can listen to some unknown named "Bart", 2000 years after the fact if it gives you comfort.

    Josephus
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    Titus Flavius Josephus, born Joseph ben Matityahu, was a first-century Romano-Jewish scholar, historian and hagiographer, who was born in Jerusalem—then part of Roman Judea—to a father of priestly descent and a mother who claimed royal ancestry. Wikipedia
    Born: 37 AD, Jerusalem, Israel
    Died: 100 AD

    Parents: Matthias
    Movies: Salomé
    Children: Flavius Justus, Flavius Hyrcanus

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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    Jesus is likely nothing more than a fable...
    You quote Bart Ehrman, but this is a part of what you left out fro Mr. Erhman's article as you mindlessly copy and paste things in this forum.

    Did Jesus Exist? is that there are so many Christian sources that can be used by historians that there is really no doubt at all that Jesus at least existed. Just to give an example (so as not to repeat my entire book here): by any credible dating, the apostle Paul must have converted to believe in Jesus within two or three years of the traditional date of Jesus’ death. And Paul knew some facts about Jesus’ life; he knew some of his teachings; he knew his closest disciple Peter; and he knew his brother James. Personally! If Jesus didn’t exist, you would think that his brother would know about it. The historian can not simply ignore what Paul has to say since he was a Christian. Taking his biases into account, we can use his letters for information about Jesus. And among other things, they show beyond a doubt that Jesus existed as a Jewish teacher in Palestine in the 20s CE. Otherwise we cannot explain Paul or his letters. That’s just one important piece of evidence for the existence of Jesus.

    Read more: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/biblean...#ixzz3A8XKmlKH
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    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv4ever View Post
    Josephus says you're wrong

    But you can listen to some unknown named "Bart", 2000 years after the fact if it gives you comfort.

    Josephus
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    Titus Flavius Josephus, born Joseph ben Matityahu, was a first-century Romano-Jewish scholar, historian and hagiographer, who was born in Jerusalem—then part of Roman Judea—to a father of priestly descent and a mother who claimed royal ancestry. Wikipedia
    Born: 37 AD, Jerusalem, Israel
    Died: 100 AD

    Parents: Matthias
    Movies: Salomé
    Children: Flavius Justus, Flavius Hyrcanus
    Guess you missed my exchange with Cnance...he had the same chump in his corner...
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    Josephus' references to Hercules...Josephus also seems happy to refer to the supernatural, retelling a story about how Onias prayed for rain, with his god positively responding. Josephus goes on to claim that he witnissed Eleazar drawing out a demon from a possession victims nostrils. In other words by modern reckoning, Josephus was not even a great historian.

    If critical historians are expected to accept Josephus without question when it comes to his questionable Jesus references, perhaps his witness to the existence of other gods and demons should also be accepted without question.
    Keep the faith, cause it's all you've got!:judges:
    As long as it is acceptable for a person to beLIEve that he knows how god wants everyone on Earth to live, we will continue to murder one another on account of our myths. ~ Sam Harris, 'The End Of Faith'
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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    You quote Bart Ehrman, but this is a part of what you left out fro Mr. Erhman's article as you mindlessly copy and paste things in this forum.
    Oh REALLY!!??....I am the one that "left it out", jokey?!

    That, is a lie...pure and simple...or just a stupid thing to say...take your pick.

    More on Mr Ehrman later...:king22:
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    ~ Susan Kierkegaard

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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Jesus would be loved and accepted. The right people would know it is him, the skeptics would miss out on eternal life.

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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tea Party View Post
    Jesus would be loved and accepted. The right people would know it is him, the skeptics would miss out on eternal life.
    Just HOW would the "right people" KNOW it's him, exactly?

    Welcome to the forum, I think...

    Are u a FauxNews fan too?
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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Thank you for the welcome. I am a video editor at a Fox syndicate ironically. It is a job, but I am definitely a conservative, yes.

    When people have faith it is a no brainer. People resist when being 'sold'. Jesus' love shouldn't be an infomercial like all the televangelists out there. I think people that already love God, would embrace a return of his Son. The skeptics...... who cares?

    You either get it or not.
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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tea Party View Post
    Thank you for the welcome. I am a video editor at a Fox syndicate ironically. It is a job, but I am definitely a conservative, yes.

    When people have faith it is a no brainer. People resist when being 'sold'. Jesus' love shouldn't be an infomercial like all the televangelists out there. I think people that already love God, would embrace a return of his Son. The skeptics...... who cares?

    You either get it or not.
    Again welcome to the fray...

    Also, u didn't answer my question(s)...

    Just HOW would the "right people" KNOW it's him, exactly?

    Also, are u a 'fan' of FauxSpews, or are u just a conservative that happens to be employed by them?
    As long as it is acceptable for a person to beLIEve that he knows how god wants everyone on Earth to live, we will continue to murder one another on account of our myths. ~ Sam Harris, 'The End Of Faith'
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    Christianity demands the crucifixion of the intellect.
    ~ Susan Kierkegaard

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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tea Party View Post
    Jesus would be loved and accepted. The right people would know it is him, the skeptics would miss out on eternal life.
    The tea party would call him a commie and a libtard.

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    Re: Would Jesus be killed if he were here today?

    Quote Originally Posted by tomInAustin View Post
    The tea party would call him a commie and a libtard.
    Abso-friggin-lutely!!

    Among other things...

    As long as it is acceptable for a person to beLIEve that he knows how god wants everyone on Earth to live, we will continue to murder one another on account of our myths. ~ Sam Harris, 'The End Of Faith'
    ~~~~~
    Christianity demands the crucifixion of the intellect.
    ~ Susan Kierkegaard

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