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    Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    The most controversial film of 2004, Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ was widely derided by critics and detractors as a two-hour anti-Semitic pornography/horror flick, complete with splattering blood and arduous torture. But among the Christian community (of which I consider myself a part) and open-minded people who actually saw the film, The Passion stands alone as the most eloquent expression of God's love for mankind ever to grace the big screen.

    The Passion certainly is violent, but not anymore violent than similarly rated films of the past ten years. But despite contentions by some evangelical Christians that everyone should see this film, I don't think young children should see it. This movie is for mature audiences only, and I think anyone under the age of sixteen should have a full understanding of the previous events underlying the main focus of the film before viewing it.

    The entire movie was filmed in the original Aramaic with English subtitles. This enhances, rather than detracts from, the film's enjoyment because it creates an emotional aura of mystery and sacredness to the subject. Since most people are at least vaguely familiar with the storyline, you won't find yourself distracted by reading subtitles as one might think. With just the opposite effect, you find yourself paying greater attention to the visual images displayed on the screen, and the power of the events unfolding before you is amplified several times over.

    The Passion of the Christ combines the four written accounts found in the New Testament Gospels to create a vivid and powerful portrayal of the arrest and crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

    The film opens in the Garden of Gethsemane, where Jesus of Nazareth (James Caviezel) is engaged in prayer, asking his Father to deliver him through the events soon to come. A satanic figure lurks in the shadows, dispensing a series of temptations and doubts. "No one man can bear the sin of the world. It's impossible. It's too much," the figure says. When Jesus refuses to give into Satan's temptations, his disciple Judas arrives to betray him to the Temple Guard.

    The Temple Guard leads Jesus away in chains to face the high priest. While Peter and John weave their way through the crowd of onlookers, Jesus is questioned by an assembly of leading priests and teachers of religious law. When Jesus responds to their questioning by affirming that he is indeed the Son of God, the leaders hit him, spit on him, and mock him. They then take him before Pilate, hoping to have him killed.

    Finding no fault with Jesus, Pilate nevertheless has Jesus flogged with a lead-tipped whip. This sequence is one of the most brutal in the film. James Caviezel is reported to have actually been hit by accident during the filming of this scene. The brutality and utter lack of empathy on behalf of the Roman soldiers is brilliantly illustrated. In my estimation, if you can make it through this scene, then the crucifixion scene should not be a problem.

    Furthermore, Gibson's cinematic genius is apparent by his measured and precise use of flashbacks which draws the audience away from the violence in brief intervals so as not to cause an emotional overload. Flashbacks include Jesus teaching to a crowd about his power to "lay down my life, and take it back up again," Jesus washing the feet his disciples at the last supper, and Jesus as a playful personality interacting with Mary. One particularly powerful scene traces back to Jesus as a toddler. When he falls down and injures himself, a panicked Mary runs to his rescue. This flashback correlates with the film's portrayal of Jesus stumbling under the weight of the cross.

    Overall, this ranks as one of the greatest films ever made. If you believe Jesus of Nazareth was the Biblical Messiah (which this film reviewer does), then The Passion illustrates the enormity of God's sacrifice. But even if you think Jesus was just a common man, this film serves a valuable purpose in that it underscores the barbarity of a human race that, more often than not, persecutes the innocent. Mel Gibson's greatest production to date is a film every student of history, philosophy, and human nature owe it to themselves to see

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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    Saw it... Very well done. IMO, a very accurate portray of the cruelty related in the gospels.
    Most certainly "violence-porn" and should only be viewed by mature audiences.

    I won't see it again. Once was enough.

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    Aside from the claims of anti-semitism, this is just a very gory and cruel film that's hard to watch.

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    The Romans were a tough bunch but had an odd method of deciding how the conquered were treated. If you just laid down when they showed up they would make you citizens, if you fought back they we tougher. The more you fought back the worse it got. The ones that fought the hardest became the slaves.

    There is a great podcast series called "The History of Rome". If you spend a lot of time in the car go for it. There are hundreds of shows so it's a commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomInAustin View Post
    The Romans were a tough bunch but had an odd method of deciding how the conquered were treated. If you just laid down when they showed up they would make you citizens, if you fought back they we tougher. The more you fought back the worse it got. The ones that fought the hardest became the slaves.

    There is a great podcast series called "The History of Rome". If you spend a lot of time in the car go for it. There are hundreds of shows so it's a commitment.

    Yet Jesus Christ presented Himself as a Lamb. They showed Him NO MERCY.

    HE had the power to call this whole thing off at ANY time during the process of being murdered by the Romans, but He CHOSE not to* -- so great was His love for sinful Man. THAT is what you should have gotten out of the movie.



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    Quote Originally Posted by conserv4ever View Post
    Yet Jesus Christ presented Himself as a Lamb. They showed Him NO MERCY.

    HE had the power to call this whole thing off at ANY time during the process of being murdered by the Romans, but He CHOSE not to* -- so great was His love for sinful Man. THAT is what you should have gotten out of the movie.



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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    we GET it you sure do SUFFER alot around here.........what if we were to hold a WHIPPING party and if you submit we will vote for the candidtate of your CHOICE!? you got OBAMACARE!? :errr: : :freak3:
    would you even post if I wasn't here, lexx? Apperars that way.

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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

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    The most controversial film of 2004, Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ was widely derided by critics and detractors as a two-hour anti-Semitic pornography/horror flick, complete with splattering blood and arduous torture. But among the Christian community (of which I consider myself a part) and open-minded people who actually saw the film, The Passion stands alone as the most eloquent expression of God's love for mankind ever to grace the big screen.

    The Passion certainly is violent, but not anymore violent than similarly rated films of the past ten years. But despite contentions by some evangelical Christians that everyone should see this film, I don't think young children should see it. This movie is for mature audiences only, and I think anyone under the age of sixteen should have a full understanding of the previous events underlying the main focus of the film before viewing it.

    The entire movie was filmed in the original Aramaic with English subtitles. This enhances, rather than detracts from, the film's enjoyment because it creates an emotional aura of mystery and sacredness to the subject. Since most people are at least vaguely familiar with the storyline, you won't find yourself distracted by reading subtitles as one might think. With just the opposite effect, you find yourself paying greater attention to the visual images displayed on the screen, and the power of the events unfolding before you is amplified several times over.

    The Passion of the Christ combines the four written accounts found in the New Testament Gospels to create a vivid and powerful portrayal of the arrest and crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

    The film opens in the Garden of Gethsemane, where Jesus of Nazareth (James Caviezel) is engaged in prayer, asking his Father to deliver him through the events soon to come. A satanic figure lurks in the shadows, dispensing a series of temptations and doubts. "No one man can bear the sin of the world. It's impossible. It's too much," the figure says. When Jesus refuses to give into Satan's temptations, his disciple Judas arrives to betray him to the Temple Guard.

    The Temple Guard leads Jesus away in chains to face the high priest. While Peter and John weave their way through the crowd of onlookers, Jesus is questioned by an assembly of leading priests and teachers of religious law. When Jesus responds to their questioning by affirming that he is indeed the Son of God, the leaders hit him, spit on him, and mock him. They then take him before Pilate, hoping to have him killed.

    Finding no fault with Jesus, Pilate nevertheless has Jesus flogged with a lead-tipped whip. This sequence is one of the most brutal in the film. James Caviezel is reported to have actually been hit by accident during the filming of this scene. The brutality and utter lack of empathy on behalf of the Roman soldiers is brilliantly illustrated. In my estimation, if you can make it through this scene, then the crucifixion scene should not be a problem.

    Furthermore, Gibson's cinematic genius is apparent by his measured and precise use of flashbacks which draws the audience away from the violence in brief intervals so as not to cause an emotional overload. Flashbacks include Jesus teaching to a crowd about his power to "lay down my life, and take it back up again," Jesus washing the feet his disciples at the last supper, and Jesus as a playful personality interacting with Mary. One particularly powerful scene traces back to Jesus as a toddler. When he falls down and injures himself, a panicked Mary runs to his rescue. This flashback correlates with the film's portrayal of Jesus stumbling under the weight of the cross.

    Overall, this ranks as one of the greatest films ever made. If you believe Jesus of Nazareth was the Biblical Messiah (which this film reviewer does), then The Passion illustrates the enormity of God's sacrifice. But even if you think Jesus was just a common man, this film serves a valuable purpose in that it underscores the barbarity of a human race that, more often than not, persecutes the innocent. Mel Gibson's greatest production to date is a film every student of history, philosophy, and human nature owe it to themselves to seeƖ
    Won't watch it, ever....

    It's an homage to the christian death cult. I'll pass, definitely!!

    There's some fun for you Passion fans in the following link (From the movie "The God Who Wasn't There"), re: "The Passion", starts at 24:55 minutes....and ends it's Passion focus on 29:20.

    WARNING, it's a brutal couple of "Passionate" minutes though....not for the squeamish ing1:

    Click here!!

    The odd fact that it's sooo popular with 'christians' helps my firm resolve towards Atheism.

    If there is a God (there is NOT!), he loves us...dead.

    Onward christian soldiers...



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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv4ever View Post
    Yet Jesus Christ presented Himself as a Lamb. They showed Him NO MERCY.

    HE had the power to call this whole thing off at ANY time during the process of being murdered by the Romans, but He CHOSE not to* -- so great was His love for sinful Man. THAT is what you should have gotten out of the movie.

    For someone who ignores my posts you sure stalk me. Maybe you don't read them since in this case you posted some blather instead of any insightful commentary.

    And why do you blame the Romans? It was the Jews that made it happen according to your fairy tale.

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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv4ever View Post
    would you even post if I wasn't here, lexx? Apperars that way.
    ...what!? tooo funny!?

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv4ever
    ...you really don't want to be seen making 3rd grade mistakes. You lose all credibility.

    It's the old glass house thing.
    ...does this mean you're going to get off your high horse & stop promoting yourself as "educated and enlightened" now!?
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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    ...what!? tooo funny!?


    ...does this mean you're going to get off your high horse & stop promoting yourself as "educated and enlightened" now!?
    Grammar Nazi:
    Definition one: Somebody whose either losing an argument and needs to create a diversion.

    Definition Two: Somebody who has the analytical and decrypting skills of an autistic 6 year old who cannot recognize a routinely based word if it even has a little typo or misplacement that anybody with a brain would so easily recognize. This person is often impossible to communicate with due to the need to spell every single thing perfectly or else they will get confused due to their poor description and analytical skills. Everything taught to them after grade 1 fades out of their mind in no more than 2 minutes. Talking to them is like talking to a wall.
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    People who forget that it's the comments section of a website on the Internet and not a school exam, Job application letter, or other type of formal document.

    An attempt to gain back some ground when one is losing face on a forum.
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    The Grammar Nazi: a fat basement-dwelling faggot that "corrects" people. Is not even a nazi and Is obsessed with making everything english class. usually the grammar nazi is known for starting flame wars because of minor things. can be obsessed to the point that they end up trolling themselves.
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    It makes me smile when I see how easy it is to get under the skin of these two. :yelcutelaughA:

    Btw, I often type on a virtual keyboard measuring exactly 1" x 2" and type with a finger about 1/2" dia. I'd say I'm doing pretty good. Not quite the same as those 3rd grade mistakes you continually make while you lecture us backward, uneducated "Bible thumpers" you elitist snob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Grammar Nazi:
    Definition one: Somebody whose either losing an argument and needs to create a diversion.

    Definition Two: Somebody who has the analytical and decrypting skills of an autistic 6 year old who cannot recognize a routinely based word if it even has a little typo or misplacement that anybody with a brain would so easily recognize. This person is often impossible to communicate with due to the need to spell every single thing perfectly or else they will get confused due to their poor description and analytical skills. Everything taught to them after grade 1 fades out of their mind in no more than 2 minutes. Talking to them is like talking to a wall.
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    Grammar Nazi:

    People who forget that it's the comments section of a website on the Internet and not a school exam, Job application letter, or other type of formal document.

    An attempt to gain back some ground when one is losing face on a forum.
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    The Grammar Nazi: a fat basement-dwelling faggot that "corrects" people. Is not even a nazi and Is obsessed with making everything english class. usually the grammar nazi is known for starting flame wars because of minor things. can be obsessed to the point that they end up trolling themselves.
    OMG...only you would try and call me a grammar nazi from the post above!

    What an absolute idiot you are...conserv4ever IS THE "grammar nazi", & yet he misspells words himself! oh nooo!!

    I was simply rubbing his nazi grammar shit in his own face with that post.

    Something you're used to as well by now? I rub your own shit in your face frequently.

    My post above was a reflection of that FACT. Glad you enjoyed my grammar nazi post though! Nice work, huh?

    Idiot.

    Now, run along before I taunt you further...u boob!
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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv4ever View Post
    It makes me smile when I see how easy it is to get under the skin of these two. :yelcutelaughA:
    Listen to you...the king of Delusion himself, paling around with the prince of delusion jokey!

    Quote Originally Posted by conserv4ever View Post
    Btw, I often type on a virtual keyboard measuring exactly 1" x 2" and type with a finger about 1/2" dia. I'd say I'm doing pretty good. Not quite the same as those 3rd grade mistakes you continually make while you lecture us backward, uneducated "Bible thumpers" you elitist snob
    Oh yes, when you make a spelling mistake you have a perfectly good explanation for the error....when someone else makes a spelling mistake it means they're "uneducated and unenlightened"...riiiight...

    Oh, you're excuse is such a good one...not...it is what it is.


    conserve4ever = another anal know-it all, self righteous bible thumper that can't make a mistake...:judges:

    Hope u enjoy your delusions of grandeur.

    What a load...

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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    OMG...only you would try and call me a grammar nazi from the post above!

    What an absolute idiot you are...conserv4ever IS THE "grammar nazi", & yet he misspells words himself! oh nooo!!
    Hypocritical are you?

    http://scam.com/showpost.php?p=1770298&postcount=10
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Did you like Passion of the Christ movie?

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    OMG...only you would try and call me a grammar nazi from the post above!

    What an absolute idiot you are...conserv4ever IS THE "grammar nazi", & yet he misspells words himself! oh nooo!!

    I was simply rubbing his nazi grammar shit in his own face with that post.

    Something you're used to as well by now? I rub your own shit in your face frequently.

    My post above was a reflection of that FACT. Glad you enjoyed my grammar nazi post though! Nice work, huh?

    Idiot.

    Now, run along before I taunt you further...u boob!
    I MISSPELL words often. The key here is MISSPELL, meaning legitimate MISTAKES, meaning, I know the correct spelling. That's what makes them MISTAKES. What an idiot. Like I said, if you can't get these simple things right, how can we backward country bumpkins ever respect your superior intellect???

    You should drop this subject. You're making a fool out of yourself with each attempt to save face.

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