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    Lies ... Lies ... Lies from Wake Up Now

    Classic:

    1) 100,000 clients - WRONG
    2) Massive IBO success - WRONG
    3) Company on the rise -WRONG
    4) A+ rating with the BBB - WRONG

    If nothing else ... they are consistent !!

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    Re: Lies ... Lies ... Lies from Wake Up Now

    Quote Originally Posted by rodney walker II View Post
    Classic:

    1) 100,000 clients - WRONG
    2) Massive IBO success - WRONG
    3) Company on the rise -WRONG
    4) A+ rating with the BBB - WRONG

    If nothing else ... they are consistent !!
    Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous.

    1. They're trying to claim 100,000 customers, but they're most likely referring to individual purchases, not unique customers. This undoubtedly includes their distributors who have likely made multiple purchases to satisfy their own CV quotas (internal consumption) to try to qualify for "bonuses."
    2. Yeah, that's not happening; their growth rate is stagnating. They've supposedly been "on the rise" for over a year, yet their financials don't reflect this and their recent flurry of blog posts addressing criticisms and fraudulent claims by their members shows they're running out of steam and engaging in damage control.
    3. Indeed. Their stock price dropped 35.53% in a single day on Tuesday and it's continuing its downward slide. Pump-and-dump definitely in progress.
    4. Hehehe. That one's been debunked so often I'm surprised WUN's members are still trying to claim it.

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    Part of Len ****** review:

    Although WUN broke out “Distributor Compensation” in their 2009 and 2010 annual financial disclosures (43.2% and 60% of sales respectively), they lumped this expense into “Sales and Marketing” in the three years following. If we consider the entire Cost of Sales (which can’t all be commissions considering this number exceeded sales in 2011) their payout must be significantly less than 71.5% and 91.7% in 2012 and 2013. Even if they are paying out anything close to these amounts, this compensation model clearly isn’t working. In late 2013, CEO Kirby Cochran stated WUN’s profit margin was about 20%. Based on their most recent financials, it’s closer to 8%. Based on the growing pains WUN has weathered over the past year, and their claims of expansion, the last thing they need to do is cut overhead. So, when you’re losing millions of dollars a year, and you’re operating at an 8% margin with the majority of your expenses being commissions, it seems obvious where WUN is going to have to cut to achieve profitability.

    MLM companies live and die based on the confidence of their distributor base, and MLM distributors tend to be a fickle, flighty bunch who spook easily. Every bump in the road is Mount Everest and every puff of smoke is a mushroom cloud. That’s why it is never more evident why MLM companies should think twice about going public, and why WUN is so ill-suited to be a public company, than when they are compelled to make public disclosures such as this:
    Going Concern – The accompanying consolidated financial statements have been prepared assuming that the Company will continue as a going concern. The Company incurred losses of $4,548,504 and $3,302,858 during the years end December 31, 2013 and 2012, respectively. The Company also used significant cash in its operating activities during the years ended December 31, 2012 and 2012. Through December 31, 2013, the Company has accumulated a deficit of $10,401,439 and has a stockholders’ deficit of $4,646,260. At December 31, 2013, the Company has a significant working capital deficit. These conditions raise substantial doubt about the Company’s ability to continue as a going concern. (emphasis added)
    The WUN website contains several typos and grammatical or punctuation errors. For example, the subtitle of the “On Demand” section of the Product Suites page, where one may select a few products a la carte, reads, “Get even more value with these something here for placement only and one more thing.” That’s verbatim. Their address on their home page displays a four-digit zip code, and all of the “View Details” links related to their energy products returned a “Page Not Found” error for at least the first four weeks I worked on this review (they’re working now).

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    http://www.bbb.org/utah/business-rev...vo-ut-22245038

    Rating of C .... "just a tad bit" short of the A+ mark the IBO's advertise

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodney walker II View Post
    http://www.bbb.org/utah/business-rev...vo-ut-22245038

    Rating of C .... "just a tad bit" short of the A+ mark the IBO's advertise
    I don't think you quite know how the BBB works do you?
    "People are not interested in your product or your business; they are interested in solving their own problems." -- James Dillehay, Entrepreneur and Author

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    I know how lies work Einsteinless

    sorry ... Miss "Lifestyle Coach" who searches for "Like Minded Individuals"

    So Doyle approves of WUN folks lying??

    Sure sounds that way ... then again as a "Lifestyle Coach" that would be a skill set I am sure
    that you have perfected during your Hall of Fame career

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodney walker II View Post
    I know how lies work Einsteinless

    sorry ... Miss "Lifestyle Coach" who searches for "Like Minded Individuals"

    So Doyle approves of WUN folks lying??

    Sure sounds that way ... then again as a "Lifestyle Coach" that would be a skill set I am sure
    that you have perfected during your Hall of Fame career
    I don't approve of anyone lying, please link to where I said that I did.

    The BBB works like this: pay them money and you get a high rating; don't pay them money and you get a low one. I thought that an ''expert scambuster'' like you would know basics information like that.
    "People are not interested in your product or your business; they are interested in solving their own problems." -- James Dillehay, Entrepreneur and Author

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    you're one clueless assclown

    you have NO CLUE about the Wake up Now setup

    then again being a "Lifestyle Coach" lying is what you do best [email protected]!

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    MFers don't know their own comp plan:

    WakeUpNow has created a simple video explanation of the compensation plan. With three people that get three, WakeUpNow pays out up $1250 per month.

    WRONG: PAYS $600 PER MONTH ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-r0keY1lOw

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    Re: Lies ... Lies ... Lies from Wake Up Now

    Quote Originally Posted by rodney walker II View Post
    you're one clueless assclown

    you have NO CLUE about the Wake up Now setup

    then again being a "Lifestyle Coach" lying is what you do best [email protected]!
    You don't have a clue about the BBB....that's obvious.
    "People are not interested in your product or your business; they are interested in solving their own problems." -- James Dillehay, Entrepreneur and Author

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    sure do

    that ain't the topic ...

    WUN folks are flat ass lying !~

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodney walker II View Post
    sure do

    that ain't the topic ...

    WUN folks are flat ass lying !~
    Stop lying, you didn't know that the BBB only gives a high rating if you pay them! rofl

    Hell, you didn't know that I live in the UK and am not the Chris Doyle you were reporting about being in court case......you're absolutely useless at this game!
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    Dumbass ... I owned a magazine so familiar with the BBB

    Dumbass ... the point is WUN folks flat ass lying refc alleged BBB rating

    BOTTOM LINE: MISS "LIFESTYLE COACH" SUPPORTS WUN FOLKS LYING !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDoyle View Post
    The BBB works like this: pay them money and you get a high rating; don't pay them money and you get a low one. I thought that an ''expert scambuster'' like you would know basics information like that.

    Hahahahha

    That's actually not at all how the BBB works. Funny you should mention...

    You pay them a fee for them to give you "Accreditation." You don't pay them to rate you highly.


    Here's some businesses with an A- with no accreditation:

    http://www.bbb.org/chattanooga/busin...ah-tn-40074327
    http://www.bbb.org/chattanooga/busin...on-tn-40071076


    Here's a business that IS accredited, but no rating:

    http://www.bbb.org/chattanooga/busin...on-ga-40008168



    Since you don't know how the rating system works, I'll let the BBB explain it to you:

    http://www.bbb.org/council/overview-of-bbb-grade/

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    tread lightly ....

    Doyle is a "Lifestyle Coach" and like Barney Fife an expert on all topics

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoktorParks View Post
    Hahahahha

    That's actually not at all how the BBB works. Funny you should mention...

    You pay them a fee for them to give you "Accreditation." You don't pay them to rate you highly.


    Here's some businesses with an A- with no accreditation:

    http://www.bbb.org/chattanooga/busin...ah-tn-40074327
    http://www.bbb.org/chattanooga/busin...on-tn-40071076


    Here's a business that IS accredited, but no rating:

    http://www.bbb.org/chattanooga/busin...on-ga-40008168



    Since you don't know how the rating system works, I'll let the BBB explain it to you:

    http://www.bbb.org/council/overview-of-bbb-grade/
    Hahaha carry on believing that. It's okay we were all naive when we were kids.
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