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    Our Ignorance is no Accident

    Our Ignorance is no Accident

    One technique used to maintain the slave economy in the Antebellum South was to outlaw any form of behavior that allowed the slave to become learned. It was necessary that the slave not only be illiterate but that s/he be isolated as much as possible from the world around them; if they knew little of the outside world they were more easily confined, constrained, and controlled.

    Ignorance in the free white community and the black slave community in Antebellum South was no accident. I suspect the depth of ignorance within the American population today is, likewise, no accident.

    Potlatch was a common characteristic of primitive cultural practice and ritual. Potlatch ceremonies were a common practice in the winter months because the summer months were busy times for gathering wealth for the family and community.

    Quickie from wiki:
    “Sponsors of a potlatch give away many useful items such as food, blankets, worked ornamental mediums of exchange called "coppers", and many other various items. In return, they earned prestige. To give a potlatch enhanced one’s reputation and validated social rank, the rank and requisite potlatch being proportional, both for the host and for the recipients by the gifts exchanged. Prestige increased with the lavishness of the potlatch, the value of the goods given away in it…The status of any given family is raised not by who has the most resources, but by who distributes the most resources. The hosts demonstrate their wealth and prominence through giving away goods.”

    In primitive communities social life was a continuous dialogue of gift giving and reciprocation. When there was food there was food for all when there was scarcity all shared in this scarcity. The successful hunter kept the least desirable parts of the kill for himself and gave the most desirable to the community. “This was the core truth in the myth of primitive communism.”

    Primitive man was judged not by the magnitude of his accumulated wealth but by the magnitude of his shared wealth.


    Present day economic theories are of a self-regulating system of markets. Such a social theory did not come from history. We are taught that this practice of private property and gain are the natural order of human social evolution; such is not the case. “Gain and profit made in exchange never before played an important part in human economy.”

    Adam Smith theorized that the division of labor results from man’s “propensity to barter, truck, and exchange one thing for another…This phrase was later to yield the concept of the Economic Man.” This observation represents a misreading of the past and a great fallacy that has led us into today’s culture of human social behavior becoming dominated by economic ideology.

    We must discard some 19th century prejudices underlying the hypothesis of primitive man’s predilection for gainful employment. The bias that caused Smith and his generation to incorrectly view primitive man induced succeeding generations to lose interest in early man.

    “The tradition of the classical economics, who attempted to base the law of the market on the alleged propensities of man in the state of nature, was replaced by an abandonment of all interest in the cultures of “uncivilized” man as irrelevant to an understanding of the problems of our age.”

    Anthropologists inform us today that there has been a remarkable sameness for all societies throughout earlier history and that sameness is “that man’s economy, as a rule, is submerged in his social relationships. He does not act so as to safeguard his individual interest in the possession of material goods; he acts so as to safeguard his social standing, his social assets…the economic system will be run on noneconomic motives…All social obligations are reciprocal.”

    Our present economic system of acquisition with little or no regard for the rest of society is not our naturally evolved culture. This is a totally artificial system that we have been raised to recognize as a natural phenomenon. Our ignorance of many things is maintained by those who manage to control social policy and especially our educational systems.

    We are maintained in a semi sophisticated state of ignorance in order to prevent us from critically evaluating our institutions and changing them in a manner that is less alienating to our nature.

    Quotes from “The Great Transformation: The Political and Economic Origins of Our Time” by Karl Polanyi

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    mumbles!!get your arse over here and read this!?: :crazy1: :freak3: heheh!!......just askn....
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    CA (Corporate America) has developed a well-honed expertise in motivating the population to behave in a desired manner. Citizens as consumers are ample manifestation of that expertise. CA has accomplished this ability by careful study and implementation of the knowledge of the ways of human behavior. I suspect this same structure applies to most Western democracies.

    A democratic form of government is one wherein the citizens have some voice in some policy decisions. The greater the voice of the citizens the better the democracy.

    In America we have policy makers, decision makers, and citizens. The decision makers are our elected representatives and are, thus, under some control by the voting citizen. The policy makers are the leaders of CA; less than ten thousand individuals, according to those who study such matters. Policy makers exercise significant control of decision makers by controlling the financing of elections.

    Policy makers customize and maintain the dominant ideology in order to control the political behavior of the citizens. This dominant ideology exercises the political control of the citizens in the same fashion as the consuming citizen is controlled by the same dominant ideology.

    An enlightened citizen is the only means to gain more voice in more policy decisions. An enlightened citizen is much more than an informed citizen. Critical thinking is the only practical means to develop a more enlightened citizen. If, however, we wait until our CT trained grade-schoolers become adults I suspect all will be lost. This is why I think a massive effort must be made to convince today’s adults that they must train themselves in CT.


    “Thomas R. Dye, Professor of Political Science at Florida State University, has published a series of books examining who and what institutions actually control and run America. to understand who is making the decisions that affect our lives, we also have to understand how societies structure themselves in general. Why the few always tend to share more power than the many and what this means in terms of both a society's evolution and our daily lives. they examined the other 11 institutions that exert just as powerful a shaping influence, although somewhat more subtle: The Industrial, Corporations, Utilities and Communications, Banking, Insurance Investment, Mass Media, Law, Education Foundation, Civic and Cultural Organizations, Government, and the Military.”
    http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/12-dye.html

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    consumption is just 1 feature of the human existence!?but if it is overstimulated/catered to it can override other critical functions!?most likely in an atmosphere of fear and insecurity!?this due to a breakdown of mutual trust!?which is in essence a loss of "other" confidence and an emphasis on self confidence!?which is what religion would call a loss of faith!?or a test of faith!?the "free ride" days are over!?the predicament for man is,the full fruits of the sacrifices he makes against the grain to the eternal promise can not be realized while he lives!?this prevents cheating!?or encourages it!?that's the test!?and all mankind hangs on the balance sheet!?which is why a doomsday is seen as a pretty good bet!?: :crazy1: :spin2: hehe!!.....just askn...
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    Right on brothers. I wish more people would read this thread. I am going to email it to everyone I know.

    You should spread the word to other forums and blogs.
    If you can't sign your name to it - don't say it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmmmmm! View Post
    Right on brothers. I wish more people would read this thread. I am going to email it to everyone I know.

    You should spread the word to other forums and blogs.
    hello......i am so glad you DUG this up!? i needed to read it as i had long forgotten it!? THANKS!! :judges: :freak3: :spin2: :
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    in primitive society, there wasn't any wealth. nobody built a university, library, hospital, the sick just died. the chief wasn't the brainy guy, he was just the guy that won the fight. he was usually the firstborn son. (yes, i could beat my little brother and would, if he insisted on it)

    he shared because all the women were his wives and sisters and all the children were his, too. when he was older, somebody clubbed him to death to take over the tribe.

    we aren't ignorant now. we all have google and talk radio.

    it is true that what a man can afford to share or give away is more important than what he has. if a man is poor, he can't give me anything - if a man is rich but a miser, he can't give me anything.

    christmas is coming, mr. scrooge. do as i do and find somebody to share you wealth, even if only for that day, or a few days.
    Last edited by mumbles; 09-15-2011 at 09:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    consumption is just 1 feature of the human existence!?but if it is overstimulated/catered to it can override other critical functions!?most likely in an atmosphere of fear and insecurity!?this due to a breakdown of mutual trust!?which is in essence a loss of "other" confidence and an emphasis on self confidence!?which is what religion would call a loss of faith!?or a test of faith!?the "free ride" days are over!?the predicament for man is,the full fruits of the sacrifices he makes against the grain to the eternal promise can not be realized while he lives!?this prevents cheating!?or encourages it!?that's the test!?and all mankind hangs on the balance sheet!?which is why a doomsday is seen as a pretty good bet!?: :crazy1: :spin2: hehe!!.....just askn...
    DANG!! i was SMART back then.........i am reading this and thinking......that guy nailed it!? :cwm2: : :judges: :
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