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    What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    The idea of perfection.
    The idea of a once upon a time story mumbled by a bearded
    om—newscaster by day—
    The idea of non-conflict.
    The idea of only love.
    Now here it is, you bearded, blond bitch.
    You can't return to something that never was.
    This simple but horrid fact puts an end to all experts who are
    lculating formulas to create a perfect world.. .instead of sleeping.
    All politicians, social "scientists" and whining blond bitches—aret of work.
    What is the truth?
    Perfection never existed.
    Therefore, there is nothing to return to—nothing.
    Nothing to fix.
    Nothing to repair.
    No socks to mend.
    The internet is the last light of truth and hope...it is truly of the people, by the people and for the people. We must not let it be subverted for any purpose other than the truth. And that truth shall spread to every man woman and child across the globe. No longer will those in power carry the sole means to decide for us, yet we now shall have the power to decide to tune them out.

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    Why do you feel this way, and even, that this is so?

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    Quote Originally Posted by muarader64 View Post
    Why do you feel this way, and even, that this is so?
    I am not even going to talk about it.
    and i will do nothing



    The New Dignity

    The New Dignity
    Stuart Wilde


    In a world that is degrading in its moral standards, decency, and in the treatment of others, we seek to discover a new dignity, not a pomposity, or a grand, vain glorious stance, but a silent composure that speaks of one that is well-versed in his or her understanding of the eternal Tao and the way energy ebbs and flows; a person who's life is drawn in the parameters of an unspoken elegance of being.

    I spoke in the recent article on the absence of malice on how if one seeks to achieve real composure one has to detach from the insidious nature of the mind that protests every little setback and takes up the cudgel of indignation for every injustice, while simultaneously seeing humanity as inferior beings, steeped in evil. That White Knight syndrome is part of the white shadow I speak of in the Visions event. Your white shadow is hard to see as it looks pure and worthwhile but often it is nothing more than our fake Mr. Nice Guy, Mrs. Trying-To-Be-Perfect, saviour-of-humanity pretence.

    We can't save the world, we don't have the spiritual purity, and "yes" humanity is often evil and we have to allow that to be as it is. To fight evil is to wrestle in the dimensions where evil exists, locked in there so as to never leave. I have a PhD in tussling with the ghouls, and while it was a useful lesson, in the end you must let them have their world and we'll keep to the mystical Tao and our world.

    To arrive in the transdimensional world of the misty lake of Avalon, you have to be finished with the affairs of man and the struggles of light and dark, blame and recrimination; you have to step instead into the magical world of the Aluna animals that can think and act in magical ways that react to love and soft emotions; animals that work tirelessly to bring about the Renewal that awaits up ahead.

    It is a fairytale dimension of mythical beings except it is not a myth, it is real, and it is here right now, in our solid reality for you to stumble upon. Theirs is a real world just as our world is real, and the lake is at a real location, just a mile so up and over the little green hill that stands in the lands behind the pub, and the Camelot arches that are placed in the forests, and in other places (some are in cities), are also real to see. The multi-dimensional celestial world has gradually threaded its way into our world like the fingers of God interlocking with the fingers of our frail human hand, weaving the speckled ambience of the Aluna through our soul.

    To arrive implies a journey that anyone can take, like a taxi ride from the railway station, but to understand it properly you have to substitute the words "the same as"instead of the verb to arrive. So to arrive at the Camelot arches you have to be "the same as" the arches. To see a hundred stags from the Aluna shoulder-to-shoulder on the shores of a moonlit lake, you have to be "the same as" a hundred stags with the same silent majesty, the same power and profound dignity and serenity. To see the Lion of Judah face-face-face inches from your nose so you can even feel its breath on your skin, you have to have the same courage and bravery, the same agility, the same endurance as the lion.

    With a new dignity you shift your mind from travelling towards where you might want to go and striving endlessly to get there, to becoming instead, "the same as" the place you would like to find yourself in. It is an ambient resonance in your heart not a "residence" that is established by arriving someplace. It is very subtle.

    The bearing of decorum and serenity we hope for takes a while to achieve but we have time, and the grace I speak of is an outcropping of a silent, spiritual nobility that seeks little for itself, that is settled and neutral towards all things, towards all matters as they arise; it is the settled heart that so few possess. The human that does not rush about hither and thither, or raise their voice, or act coarsely; he or she that does not need to exert them self in the company of others, they are the one that can listen without speaking that is happy to take the last place, happy to wait through all eternity if needs be. It's the heart that beats in time with all the collective hearts of multi-dimensional hyper-space, both human and non-human, rather than the solitary human heart that beats only to its desires.

    The settled heart spreads out far and wide for it has few needs that it can not provide for itself, so that gives it a selfless decency, an intrinsic width that you could describe as the breadth of the person's etheric field (its sideways motion) and that width carries it naturally outwards towards the celestial, which you already know follows the same sideways path or direction of the transverse wave of light that is placed at 90° sideways to the normal path of light. The narrow mind installs a constrained, tight energy around a human that travels nowhere, in fact, it attempts to sucks energy from others to sustain itself. To radiate silently is dignified, to pillage is not so.

    Certainly, we have to pay rent, raise children, arrive at work on time, but we must learn to do all these things without falling off balance and losing ourselves and our dignity in the struggle; walking slowly and deliberately through life in a calm and centered way with as much grace and dignity as possible, we arrive without moving very far, if at all.

    It is undignified to lean into people demanding things, or to struggle to win their affection and acceptance, or to fight to get them to act in certain ways that they are often incapable of doing. Struggling will drag you down. So you smile on them and their weaknesses and you laud their every success while praying for their good fortune and wellbeing. That is why it is important to walk by the banks of the rivers of the Tao as the sages of old would say, and to be sustained and taught by that, and to have all your desires tempered, so in your clarity and simplicity you lack for nothing, as there is nothing much you want.

    The dignity I speak of is not hard to achieve but you have to let go. You fought the good fight and you marched under the blood-red banners of your emotions and indignations, and you shunned evil often reacting to it, not realizing perhaps that you were only ever looking at an outer manifestation of yourself and your darkness.

    What justice do we really seek? What pleasure will a hollow victory or vengeance over evil really offer? To struggle to be better than the hopelessly weak, or the indolent, or to be more handsome than the gnarly, narcissistic face of humanity, is of no great achievement. Squeaky-clean is irritating, like fingernails grating on a blackboard, and anyway the pretence of it serves no purpose for none of us is spiritually ever much more than various shades of dull grey, and anyway the 'squeak-squeak' of squeaky-clean are like hungry mice scurrying along the skirting boards of your sentiments and aspirations, keeping you awake at night judging yourself and worrying.

    Let the banner of your protest drop from your blistered hand so you will have two arms free with which to embrace humanity, and allow the new dignity to carry you beyond the world of the mundane, justice and injustice, and the vicissitudes of a poorly understood karma. For in the end the only triumph is to return home, and the animals and the eternal Tao are the points of the compass we use to guide us to the resonance of that safe return, for the Tao is woven into the souls of the animals, and without the souls of animals to guide us one cannot arrive at the celestial for they are the keepers of the kingdom of God.

    Sincerely, Stuart

    © Stuart Wilde 2007
    www.stuartwilde.com
    The internet is the last light of truth and hope...it is truly of the people, by the people and for the people. We must not let it be subverted for any purpose other than the truth. And that truth shall spread to every man woman and child across the globe. No longer will those in power carry the sole means to decide for us, yet we now shall have the power to decide to tune them out.

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    In your quote, what stuart wilde wrote, is that what you believe? specifically this statement: "souls of animals to guide us one cannot arrive at the celestial for they are the keepers of the kingdom of God." Is this what you believe?

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    Said they "weren't going to talk about it". Can't you read?:rasta:

    p.s. play that record again!:judges:
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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    It is about as good as any scenario... WHo really knows. I know what you've read, heard... but prove it!:rasta:
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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    paladine -I doubt you understand the meaning of the author you quote. Even I can cut and paste "verbage" from any source. If you're fishing for a confrontation - my guess is - you will not attract much response. Too bad - the subject sounded promising.......

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    She is a female Galaxy.

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    terry - Why the comparison?
    Sorry Paladine - this is drawing your thread off topic. My apologies - I will 'view only" from now on. :
    Last edited by linda49; 04-03-2008 at 02:56 AM.

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    Quote Originally Posted by linda49 View Post
    terry - Why the comparison?
    Sorry Paladine - this is drawing your thread off topic. My apologies - I will 'view only" from now on. :
    Because there is a comparison to draw, both take pages of cut and paste material.

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    Quote Originally Posted by terry05_99 View Post
    She is a female Galaxy.
    Is Paladine a female...posts sound masculine to me or is that an out of body experience..lol
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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    Quote Originally Posted by peregrine View Post
    Is Paladine a female...posts sound masculine to me or is that an out of body experience..lol
    Yeah, I agree Peregrine, judging by past posts, Paladine, is a guy, either that or simply a fake person lying for fun and profit on an anonamous web site:spin2:
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    opps....insert foot in mouth! lol

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    Quote Originally Posted by terry05_99 View Post
    opps....insert foot in mouth! lol
    check again terry - I'm sure you'll find your entire ass end is there..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by linda49 View Post
    check again terry - I'm sure you'll find your entire ass end is there..........
    wow linda, your quite funny. You know, what you said doesn't even make sence? But its ok, it so funny Iam going crazy here. Did you think this up by yourself?

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    Re: What is the fallacy of the Garden of Eden?

    Terry - you total waste of a brain..... I'm sure what you meant to say was -----

    Salutations Linda (lovely lady),
    I am quite impressed by your careful, yet skillful, use of sarcasm.
    You make perfect (sence is not a word - sense - cents - scents - PICK ONE YOU MORON!!!!...too late the word is...) sense.
    By the by -
    "sence" - is slovenian for temple (as in the side of your forehead - where your brain is supposed to be). Odd that this conversation would end this way.........

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