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    Escrow scam on Craigslist

    I almost got scammed...thank god I kept digging...here's how it worked:

    I found this ad on Craigslist:
    ************************************************** ******
    2003 03 HONDA CIVIC LX 5SPD MANUAL 4D SEDAN LIKE NEW CA - $5200
    Reply to: sale-125629558@craigslist.org
    Date: 2006-01-15, 7:38PM PST


    This Civic is in great condition all around and like-new. Please take a look at all the photos including any showing particular exterior dents or scratches (if any).A free carfax report is also available, please click on carfax link under reports. Also, additional high resolution photos can be sent to serious buyers, just provide us with your email address. Become the second owner of this well-kept automobile. All available records show the odometer reading on this vehicle to be accurate. All mechanical parts including transmission are in working order.


    Year: 2003
    Make: Honda
    Model: Civic
    VIN: 2HGES15573H506193
    Mileage: 48,405
    Transmission: Manual
    Engine: 4 - Cyl. 1.7 L
    Exterior Color: Silver
    Interior Color: Gray
    Body Style: 4 Dr Sedan
    Title Status: Clear


    FREE CARFAX REPORT FOR MY CAR : http://www.carfax.com/cfm/ccc_Displa...ES15573H506193

    * This item has been posted by-owner.
    * yes -- it's ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

    125629558
    ************************************************** *****

    Then we had these e-mails (I took my name out):


    When i working there i work by self. All my friennd and my family are in UK. Im very sorry. I will wait your email me back. Thank You Again.

    wrote:


    Don't you have any family here or friends that you trust?? I would feel so
    much better conducting this transaction through a person.

    K

    >From: Mark Bailey
    >To: K
    >Subject: Re: 2003 03 HONDA CIVIC LX 5SPD MANUAL 4D SEDAN LIKE NEW CA -
    >$5200
    >Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:09:59 -0800 (PST)
    >
    >With all my pleasure. Here you have them email :
    >customers@escrow-support.us Email them and tell the to open a case with
    >our transaction .. Send them your informations , the cars price and your
    >questions. I will wait for them to contact me them . Or you shold keep me
    >in touch. Thank You
    >
    > PS: I understand you very much with this .. I see this life is become
    >very DARK. I work very hard night and day to keep my kids alife.
    >
    >
    >K wrote:
    > Can I contact the escrow company directly first and give my information
    >through them? This way I will know that you are definately connected to
    >them. Forgive my suspicions, but this is a lot of money still and your idea
    >on how to sell your car in extraordinary and if I lost this much money with
    >no car in the end, life as I know it would become very, very DARK!!
    >
    >K
    >
    > >From: Mark Bailey
    > >To: K
    > >Subject: Re: 2003 03 HONDA CIVIC LX 5SPD MANUAL 4D SEDAN LIKE NEW CA -
    > >$5200
    > >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:44:02 -0800 (PST)
    > >
    > >Ofcourse you can. All Escrow agency have a REFUND REQUEST. The escrow
    > >company name is Escrow Support ( www.escrow-support.us ). If you are
    >still
    > >interested in the car please email me back with your full name and your
    > >full shipping address and i will open a case immediatly with our
    > >transaction, after i will do that, they will contact you with more
    > >informations about refunding and how to make the payment. I know that
    >they
    > >shall give you a term of 14 days to inspect the car after you will make
    >the
    > >payment and receive the car . So if you are still interested in the car i
    > >will wait your email back with your full name and your full shipping
    > >address. Thank you so very much for understanding me and for the
    >attention
    > >that you give me.
    > >
    > > Best Regards, Mark Bailey
    > >
    > >
    > >K wrote:
    > > Which escrow company is it? If the car gets here and it is not in the
    > >condition you say it is in, can I get my money back?
    > >
    > >K
    > >
    > > >From: Mark Bailey
    > > >To: K
    > > >Subject: Re: 2003 03 HONDA CIVIC LX 5SPD MANUAL 4D SEDAN LIKE NEW CA -
    > > >$5200
    > > >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:25:29 -0800 (PST)
    > > >
    > > >Hello
    > > >
    > > > 5 months ago i ustu work in US,now i have returned back home and i
    > > >realised that i need to sell the car that i bought in US , the car is
    > > >registered in US ,and it's a left hand drive, and it is very hard to
    > >drive
    > > >a car in a country where all steerings are on the right side . The
    > >shipping
    > > >is free and the car is so cheap because i have to find a client very
    >fast
    > > >because i had a decease in my family and i need the money. This whole
    > > >transaction will take 5 working days ,we shall use a escrow agency,one
    > >with
    > > >whom i've been working for 4 years and i have a great trust in them. If
    > >you
    > > >will come up with an ideea to use another escrow agency i shall deny
    >your
    > > >request . If you are still interested please do not hesitate to e-mail
    >me
    > > >back. Thank you
    > > >
    > > >K
    > > > I am so confused!! Yes, I would still be interested, but what's the
    > > >story??
    > > >
    > > >K > > >
    > > >
    > > > >From: Mark Bailey
    > > > >To: K
    > > > >Subject: Re: 2003 03 HONDA CIVIC LX 5SPD MANUAL 4D SEDAN LIKE NEW CA
    >-
    > > > >$5200 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:34:58 -0800 (PST)
    > > > >
    > > > >If i shall tell you that the car is located in UK and the SHIPPING is
    > > >FREE
    > > > >OF CHARGES would you still be interested ? Thank you and i am waiting
    > > >with
    > > > >all my pleasure your email back.
    ************************************************** *******

    The website address that he gives is: http://www.escrow-support.us/

    This website LOOKS very legit. If you look under contacts however, there is no phone number. There is a license number though - # 9631865 which seems to come from "The European Chamber of E-Commerce East Lancashire," however, this group says on their website that they do not give out such licenses to escrow companies - http://www.chamberelancs.co.uk/index...tion=show_news

    Also, if you look on the Chamber's website and look up any of the several names that are mentioned on the scammer's site, (and there are four names mind you that you will come across if you continues looking at everything - Global Security One, Better Business Support, Escrow Support, and International Escrow) - only one comes up on the Chamber's website: Global Security One. If you follow the link to that companies website, it goes somewhere totally different than to the scammer sight. I was thinking that I could be looking at another branch of the same business, but I remembered that the addresses were the same so I got confused. I decided to look closer at the addresses and sure enough - there was something wrong. The addresses were almost exactly the same, but the town was different and the zip code was off by one digit.

    When I went to Whois, the site looked further bunk. An escrow company should be some type of corporation, but the website was regitstered to some guy named Phillip.

    Overall, from the very beginning, nothing was adding up, but I couldn't pass up what looked like a good deal without being sure it wasn't real. The first words in the ad "this civic" made me wonder immediately - it sounded like a dealership posting the ad rather than an individual who would say "MY car." THen he goes on to talk about his car as though he doesn't really know much about it - not knowing if there are any scratches on it or not. Another thing that was catching my attention is that the person said he was from England and that this was where all his friends and family lived, but his english was horrible. One other catch was the name of the company he gave in his e-mail - he said the name was "Escrow Support." That name isn't mentioned anywhere on the website and who the hell would name their company that??? Oh yah, and there was another one - the pictures of the car! His pictures were taken here in the US - I'm almost sure. Behind the car was a parking lot full of SUV's and a long row of tall healthy Palm Trees - don't even try and tell me these things exist in England...

    Just to mess with this guy I've been keeping up on the e-mails - I asked him when the pictures were taken. He hasn't replied yet. Damn, I should have tried to get a phone number after all so I could call him in "England" when I know he's here in Cali somewhere....I hope he writes me back...

  2. #2
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    Aug 2005
    Posts
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    Re: Escrow scam on Craigslist

    good thorough research, but to add so that we know that these are scammers

    whois:
    Domain Name: ESCROW-SUPPORT.US
    Domain ID: D9046742-US
    Sponsoring Registrar: MELBOURNE IT LTD
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Registrant ID: H113293479731670
    Registrant Name: Phillip Joujon-roche
    Registrant Organization: Phillip Joujon-roche
    Registrant Address1: 25742 Nellie Gail Rd
    Registrant City: Laguna Hills
    Registrant State/Province: CA
    Registrant Postal Code: 92653
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Country Code: US
    Registrant Phone Number: +1.6148332342
    Registrant Email: asoau2001@yahoo.com
    Registrant Application Purpose: P3
    Registrant Nexus Category: C11
    Administrative Contact ID: F113293477140181
    Administrative Contact Name: Phillip Joujon-roche
    Administrative Contact Organization: Phillip Joujon-roche
    Administrative Contact Address1: 25742 Nellie Gail Rd
    Administrative Contact City: Laguna Hills
    Administrative Contact State/Province: CA
    Administrative Contact Postal Code: 92653
    Administrative Contact Country: United States
    Administrative Contact Country Code: US
    Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.6148332342
    Administrative Contact Email: asoau2001@yahoo.com
    Billing Contact ID: H113293479731669
    Billing Contact Name: YahooDomains BillingContact
    Billing Contact Organization: Yahoo! Inc
    Billing Contact Address1: 701 First Ave.
    Billing Contact City: Sunnyvale
    Billing Contact State/Province: CA
    Billing Contact Postal Code: 94089
    Billing Contact Country: United States
    Billing Contact Country Code: US
    Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.6198813096
    Billing Contact Email: asoau2001@yahoo.com
    Technical Contact ID: F113293477140182
    Technical Contact Name: YahooDomains TechContact
    Technical Contact Organization: Yahoo! Inc
    Technical Contact Address1: 701 First Ave.
    Technical Contact City: Sunnyvale
    Technical Contact State/Province: CA
    Technical Contact Postal Code: 94089
    Technical Contact Country: United States
    Technical Contact Country Code: US
    Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.6198813096
    Technical Contact Email: asoau2001@yahoo.com
    Name Server: YNS1.YAHOO.COM
    Name Server: YNS2.YAHOO.COM
    Created by Registrar: MELBOURNE IT LTD
    Last Updated by Registrar: MELBOURNE IT LTD
    Domain Registration Date: Fri Nov 25 16:09:26 GMT 2005
    Domain Expiration Date: Fri Nov 24 23:59:59 GMT 2006
    Domain Last Updated Date: Fri Nov 25 16:09:28 GMT 2005
    Registered with a Yahoo email account ( red flag #1)
    Registered via Yahoo Domain registration (red flag #2)
    Melbourne IT Ips with a US registered domain (red flag #3)
    Site is now "under construction" (red flag #4)
    According Google Maps - the registered address is to a residential house in the middle of the suburbs (red flag #5 - fake address)
    The phone number registered with the domain is to a:
    http://www.google.com/search?sa=X&oi...q=614-833-2342
    R D Locklear - (614) 833-2342 - 653 W Columbus St, Pickerington, OH 43147
    Hmm. california address with an OH phone number ( red flag #6)

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    2

    Re: Escrow scam on Craigslist- Trans Export/Global Security One

    Hi - thanks for this info guys. We did get scammed by this company - for 400!!

    I was trying to buy a Reconditoned Rainbow cleaner and my parents subbed me the money -. it was a contact I made through Ebay although the transaction took place outside Ebay. (my fault entirely).

    The seller re-directed me to a website called Trans-Export.com and told us to pay a Western Union transfer through to Spain. Needless to say we never heard another word after my parents made the payment.

    I found out the discrepancies on the webiste with a day or so of the payment being made. The phony global Security one address and the info on the chamber of commerce East Lancs website!

    And now the police say the have exhausted all leads and the case is closed. what should we do now - is there anything we can do - are the people using this escrow company all linked into one big scam.

    Here below is one of the emails I got from this guy - Sidney Rogers:
    Hello again,

    No no no. The price for one Rainbow is 600 Euro. The shipping taxes are includes in the price. We will close the deal through a very safe service and very well knowed in Europe. Please visit their website : www.trans-export.com and check it out.
    This service offers total security and it is used worldwide for this kind of business because it offers 100% security both for the seller and the buyer. Trans-export mission is to build trust in transactions and to create a better online trading experience. Trans-export 's services aim to help buyers identify trustworthy sellers they can buy from safely, as well as help good sellers show buyers that they can be trusted.
    In a few words i will explain you how this deal will be closed:

    The shipping transportation will take less time, and the package will arrive to you in max. 3 working days. After you will register at shipping company you will be contacted by their stuff explaining you the terms and conditions and the way the deal will be concluded..
    After you will receive all the details about this business, you will have to present a guarantee, more precisely: you will make the payment to one of their agents and then sit back and relax and wait for the package to arrive directly to your home address.
    If upon your inspection you found something that wasn't right or if the package isn't what you have desired, you will send it imediatelly to the company (transport taxes will be covered by me) and receive your money back guaranteed. I will receive the payment ONLY AFTER you will confirm the company that you like the package and keep it.

    If you agree the terms and conditions to close this deal through this company, please go to : www.trans-export.com and register yourself.

    Have a nice day.

    And then one from Trans Export - I have removed my address!

    Dear Liz Morgam,

    We want to inform you that you have a shipping registration on your name
    from Mr. Sidney Rogers.


    He registered on your name one brand new 2006 RAINBOW E2 SERIES Vacuum


    Payment Requests
    Our Company require the payment to be done through Western Union money
    transfer service.

    If you are not familiarized with the Western Union money transfer services
    please visit: www.westernunion.com. If you want to locate the nearest
    Western Union Office in your area please visit this site. You have to pay
    with cash at any Western Union Office.



    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Item Information


    Item Title: 2006 RAINBOW E2 SERIES Vacuum


    Item Description: 2006 RAINBOW E2 SERIES Vacuum


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Payment Details


    Buyer: Liz Morgam

    Subject: 2006 RAINBOW E2 SERIES Vacuum

    Amount: 600.00 EUR

    Down Payment: 0.00 EUR

    Shipping: 0.00 EUR

    Total: 600.00 EUR



    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Delivery Information


    Address:
    Portugal

    Phone Number:


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Seller Details


    First Name: Sidney

    Last Name: Rogers

    Street: 43 Otterbourne Walk

    City: London

    Zip code: RG27 0SE

    Country: United Kingdom



    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Important notice




    The payment details are confidential and will not be released under any
    circumstances. Our customer chose this payment method in order to speed up
    the transaction.

    Trans-Export security measures are constantly reviewed and modified given
    evolving circumstances globally, drawing on both internal assessments and
    the support of government agencies.

    Our constant priority is for the safety of our people, our customers, and
    the general public. Trans-Export always tries to fulfill its customers
    needs.


    For your safety , you`ll not send the payment directly to the seller.
    You`ll have to send the payment to one of our company authorised
    representants.
    These are our representant details where you must send the money using
    Western Union Money Transfer:

    First Name: Robert
    Last Name: Milton
    Street: Conde de Aranda 48
    City: Zaragoza
    Zip code: 50003
    Country: Spain

    How to make payment?

    1. Locate the nearest Western Union Office
    2. Make the payment with cash using our representant details
    3. E-mail us the following details from the payment receipt:
    - MTCN - 10 digits number from the payment receipt
    - Sender Name and Address
    - Receiver Name
    - Amount

    - Scaned paper from Western Union

    Once we receive the payment confirmation, we will start the shipping
    process. We will hold the payment details until you send us your
    confirmation that you are satisfied with the product you received. As soon
    as we receive your confirmation we will release the payment details to the
    seller.

    Sincerly,
    Trans-Export Financial Department

    What about this guy in Spain ???- any help would be greatfully received

    Liz

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    2

    Re: Escrow scam on Craigslist

    PS I forgot - their registered address was a rip off of a genuine company called Global Security One - but they are based in manchester not London as the address on the Website gave. It was exactly the same but stated London instead of Manchester. See http://www.gsec1.com/contacts/contact.php

  5. #5
    umdkook Guest

    Re: Escrow scam on Craigslist

    Nigerians nigerians Nigerians.

    How do people not see the numerous spelling and grammar mistakes. clear cut signs of Nigerian scam...

  6. #6
    umdkook Guest

    Re: Escrow scam on Craigslist- Trans Export/Global Security One

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadzia
    Hi - thanks for this info guys. We did get scammed by this company - for 400!!

    I was trying to buy a Reconditoned Rainbow cleaner and my parents subbed me the money -. it was a contact I made through Ebay although the transaction took place outside Ebay. (my fault entirely).

    The seller re-directed me to a website called Trans-Export.com and told us to pay a Western Union transfer through to Spain. Needless to say we never heard another word after my parents made the payment.

    I found out the discrepancies on the webiste with a day or so of the payment being made. The phony global Security one address and the info on the chamber of commerce East Lancs website!

    And now the police say the have exhausted all leads and the case is closed. what should we do now - is there anything we can do - are the people using this escrow company all linked into one big scam.

    Here below is one of the emails I got from this guy - Sidney Rogers:
    Hello again,

    No no no. The price for one Rainbow is 600 Euro. The shipping taxes are includes in the price. We will close the deal through a very safe service and very well knowed in Europe. Please visit their website : www.trans-export.com and check it out.
    This service offers total security and it is used worldwide for this kind of business because it offers 100% security both for the seller and the buyer. Trans-export mission is to build trust in transactions and to create a better online trading experience. Trans-export 's services aim to help buyers identify trustworthy sellers they can buy from safely, as well as help good sellers show buyers that they can be trusted.
    In a few words i will explain you how this deal will be closed:

    The shipping transportation will take less time, and the package will arrive to you in max. 3 working days. After you will register at shipping company you will be contacted by their stuff explaining you the terms and conditions and the way the deal will be concluded..
    After you will receive all the details about this business, you will have to present a guarantee, more precisely: you will make the payment to one of their agents and then sit back and relax and wait for the package to arrive directly to your home address.
    If upon your inspection you found something that wasn't right or if the package isn't what you have desired, you will send it imediatelly to the company (transport taxes will be covered by me) and receive your money back guaranteed. I will receive the payment ONLY AFTER you will confirm the company that you like the package and keep it.

    If you agree the terms and conditions to close this deal through this company, please go to : www.trans-export.com and register yourself.

    Have a nice day.

    And then one from Trans Export - I have removed my address!

    Dear Liz Morgam,

    We want to inform you that you have a shipping registration on your name
    from Mr. Sidney Rogers.


    He registered on your name one brand new 2006 RAINBOW E2 SERIES Vacuum


    Payment Requests
    Our Company require the payment to be done through Western Union money
    transfer service.

    If you are not familiarized with the Western Union money transfer services
    please visit: www.westernunion.com. If you want to locate the nearest
    Western Union Office in your area please visit this site. You have to pay
    with cash at any Western Union Office.



    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Item Information


    Item Title: 2006 RAINBOW E2 SERIES Vacuum


    Item Description: 2006 RAINBOW E2 SERIES Vacuum


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Payment Details


    Buyer: Liz Morgam

    Subject: 2006 RAINBOW E2 SERIES Vacuum

    Amount: 600.00 EUR

    Down Payment: 0.00 EUR

    Shipping: 0.00 EUR

    Total: 600.00 EUR



    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Delivery Information


    Address:
    Portugal

    Phone Number:


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Seller Details


    First Name: Sidney

    Last Name: Rogers

    Street: 43 Otterbourne Walk

    City: London

    Zip code: RG27 0SE

    Country: United Kingdom



    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Important notice




    The payment details are confidential and will not be released under any
    circumstances. Our customer chose this payment method in order to speed up
    the transaction.

    Trans-Export security measures are constantly reviewed and modified given
    evolving circumstances globally, drawing on both internal assessments and
    the support of government agencies.

    Our constant priority is for the safety of our people, our customers, and
    the general public. Trans-Export always tries to fulfill its customers
    needs.


    For your safety , you`ll not send the payment directly to the seller.
    You`ll have to send the payment to one of our company authorised
    representants.
    These are our representant details where you must send the money using
    Western Union Money Transfer:

    First Name: Robert
    Last Name: Milton
    Street: Conde de Aranda 48
    City: Zaragoza
    Zip code: 50003
    Country: Spain

    How to make payment?

    1. Locate the nearest Western Union Office
    2. Make the payment with cash using our representant details
    3. E-mail us the following details from the payment receipt:
    - MTCN - 10 digits number from the payment receipt
    - Sender Name and Address
    - Receiver Name
    - Amount

    - Scaned paper from Western Union

    Once we receive the payment confirmation, we will start the shipping
    process. We will hold the payment details until you send us your
    confirmation that you are satisfied with the product you received. As soon
    as we receive your confirmation we will release the payment details to the
    seller.

    Sincerly,
    Trans-Export Financial Department

    What about this guy in Spain ???- any help would be greatfully received

    Liz
    can i just ask why you thought buying a product from a company would entail Western Unioning money to Spain???

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
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    Re: Escrow scam on Craigslist

    can i ask you why YOU must quote the entire post without editing it for only a one sentence reply?

  8. #8

    This guy doesn't give up...car scam on craiglist.com

    This was just sent to me by a blessedjohnson1@yahoo. I've noticed this same form letter on this site with different pastor's name used. Just wanted to give a heads up.


    GOOD NEWS,

    I'm happy to inform you that I have concluded with my client, Pastor DANIEL JONES and he has asked me to proceed with the transaction. He has further asked me to inform you that the buying of your car is being sponsored by the church committee members of the Church Of God Mission inc. Box 144, Station D Etobicoke, on M9A 4X1 Canada on behalf of him and his wife Mrs Carolyn Jones in commemoration of their golden jubilee anniversary celebrations.He was surpose to be present inorder to view the car, but due to his tight Evangelical conference meeting he couldn't be present now.In other to experdiate this transaction and due to our time frame,we are running out of time so we dont have enough time to negotiate the price but i believe is alittle beat better than buying it locally,cause of this reason my client has accepted your price/offer.
    Already, a cashier's check of $14,000USD has been mapped by the church committee members to cover the total expenses which includes the purchase of your car,the pick up of the car from its present location and the shipping charges/other necessary shipping arrangements. I have therefore been mandated by my client to forward your payment information to the church for them to make out this payment in your name so that he will be sure that you will consider your car sold to him.
    My client explained to me that why you are to receive this payment in this amount is because the money being used for the payment was a donation made to the church by a christain organisation in support of his car and the cost and so the church has decided to forward your payment information directly to the sponsors so that they can see where their money is going into.

    PLS NOTE; when you receive check payment, you are expected to deduct the cost of your car which is $5,000 and send down the remaining balance of $9,000 to the pick-up agent via western union money transfer to enable him offset shipping charges/arrangements.once the transaction is concluded, our shipper agent will be coming for the pick up of the car from its present location.so you don't have to bother yourself about the pick up and shipping arrangements,while title papers and other necessary documents will be sent by you via service courier to us.

    Please confirm the above and provide your payment information for your payment to be delivered to you via courier service.
    Please provide the following:

    1-LEGAL NAME IN FULL..............
    2.CONTACT ADDRESS.....................
    3.PHONE NUMBER(S)...........................

    I will be expecting your mail with full payment information so that we can proceed.

    Also You can contact my client if you whish to....

    Name...... Pastor DANIEL JONES
    Adderss...Church Of God Mission inc. Box 144,
    Station D Etobicoke, on M9A 4X1 Canada.
    Email....dj1441dj@yahoo.ca

    Thanks.

    Blessed.

  9. #9
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    Posts
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    Re: This guy doesn't give up...car scam on craiglist.com

    make sure you use the "links" in the top right corner of the craigslist.com listing to report it for fraud to them.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
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    Re: This guy doesn't give up...car scam on craiglist.com

    If that was real then that must be either a super rich church to pay that amount of money for a car, or the church members are silently unaware that money coming in to the church are spent on expensive items.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
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    Re: This guy doesn't give up...car scam on craiglist.com

    My car was on autotrader and cars.com and I received the similar scam....I almost fell for it except when he offered to send me $16K and to send the balance to the shipper! I called autotrader and was told not to give them any info as the scammers may want to steal the car, too!
    here were the emails...the weird use of English shoud have been a dead give-away! 2nd giveaway: I should have read closer, I am not listed on AUto Extra.com!!!

    Long story short: this is a total scam, and I am mad at myself for letting it go for as many emails as it did!

    first email:

    =======================================
    A u t o E x t r a . c o m L E A D
    =======================================

    Date/Time: September 6, 2006, 1:27 am

    Please contact richard walles regarding the
    vehicle you are advertising on AutoExtra.com:

    Email wallechard@yahoo.com
    Zip Code
    Day Phone --
    Evening Phone --
    Year 1997
    Make LEXUS
    Model ES300
    Price 8795
    To see the specific vehicle richard walles is interested in,
    go to http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-42642351 for more details.

    Best time to contact: Day
    Comments: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR VEHICLE.THANKS.

    I replied with this:
    feel free to give me a call: 360-339-5402 at home I am here for the next three weeks recovering from ankle surgery- which is why I wanted to sell my car in the first place. I'd be happy to send you the carfax:

    To view the CARFAX Vehicle History Report, please click the link below:
    1997 LEXUS ES 300 (JT8BF22G5V0047124)
    *This link will expire on 09/09/2006

    thanks for your interest.
    Anne Koglin (I AM AN IDIOT! I SENT CARFAX INFO!)


    John Graw,
    Department of Motor Vehicles
    CPD Information Services Branch
    PO Box 942890
    Sacramento , CA 94393
    Thanks for the email. Please I have a client who is very much interested in buying your Vehicle. He happened to budget for a Vehicle last time and unfortunately it was sold. I have discussed with him and he has agreed that he will be willing to have the Vehicle shipped to Canada upon reaching an agreement with you.
    Please I have Some Questions to Ask:
    1) Is the engine in perfect condition?
    2) How often do you service the Vehicle?
    3) send pictures for my client viewing.
    4) Are you the owner?
    5) If yes, for how long did you use Vehicle?
    6)Finally At what price are you willing to sell this
    Vehicle to Us ...Bottom price.
    Below is my client's information
    Maj.Schneider Daves,
    454 2nd RD E ,
    Stoney Creek ,
    ontario L8J 2X9.
    Phone Number (206)3331252

    I replied like this:
    see below: If your client is interested, have him contact me...I have answered your questions inside your message...I won't go lower---car is worth more than $8995 to me as it stands, I just was looking to upgrade to a newer Lexus, but I don't need to sell her, she is in immaculate condition, and an awesome car that will easily run for another 200,000 miles. I was just trying to save a few months car payments since i can't drive..what are you...a broker?


    Hello,
    Thanks for your mail. I am very sorry for not getting back to you as expected, i was trying to conclude issue of payment with my client. I am delighted to tell you that my client appreciates and commends your vehicle, with full interest, he is willing to carry on with this transaction. I have finalized with my client on the price of ($8,995) which is the last asking price for your vehicle and its ok by him, I have forwarded your vehicle information including your last mail to him for his proper records.
    He also instructed me to inform you that payment will get to you in a US certified cashier check of ($16,000) which is a refund payment of a cancelled order earlier made by my client .Due to company policy this check has to be made out in this amount to you,Because company policy only allows a refund payment on one cashier cheque.So you are required to deduct the cost of your vehicle ($8,995) and send the balance of($7,005)to the Agent ( our shipper ) for him to be able to offset shipping & tax charges, and other cosmetic repair costs.
    After payment has reached you and balance sent back to my agent,he will then proceed with his mechanics for the inspection, pick up(of vehicle & signing of title papers), make some cosmetic touches and drive to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer,while title papers and other necessary documets will be handed over to my agent at the time of pick up.
    Please confirm this and forward the following informations;
    Names:.......
    Address:.......
    Phone#:.......
    For payment to be made and send to you as soon as possible.I decided to mail it now for urgent purposes.Thanks for your undestanding and co-operation
    Best regards
    John Graw.

  12. #12

    Craigslist.com CAR SCAMS

    There are a TON of car scams listed on Craigslist. I have flagged many of them for deletion, but they pop up the next day. I thought I would share my findings with you all. Let's start with the conclusions:

    1) NEVER buy a craigslist vehicle that is not in your city! The only real postings are from people who are local - anyone advertising a car wanting to ship it to you is a scammer.

    2) NEVER pay by money gram or wire transfer.

    3) If it is claimed that "you are protected by the E-bay guarantee"... or Worldpay guarantee... or any other guarantee, it's a scam. Test this by trying to find the vehicle on e-bay or other site - it won't be there. Never send money to an "agent" directly! Guarantees only work when the transaction STARTS with a legitimate web site hosting the guarantee.


    This letter has been sent to me under two names so far - Greg Lambert, and Peter Todoric.

    Hi there,
    Thank you for contacting me regarding my car. First of all I want to tell you that the car is in perfect condition, and the price includes all the shipping costs and insurance so you will not have to pay any extra charges if you can't come to Utah to make the deal.

    Here is the VIN Number:1j4ff48s21l568573 check the carfax report.
    Miles: 78000 .

    Year 2001 The car has a Clean Tittle
    which will come along with it.I am at my son here in Utah , Ephraim.
    The car is with me here and is in a perfect condition.
    It's a great car, I am devastated that I have to sell it but i really need money for my son because he is in the hospital,so I decided to sell it. Tell me if there is anything else you would like to know about the car. If u want to see more pictures of the car please ask me that !

    Thank you for the interest you have shown in purchasing the car.
    Please reply,
    Regards,
    After following up and saying YES I want this awesome vehicle at such an attractive price (2000 jeep, 2001 Nissan Xterra all with just under 100,000 miles, etc), I receive a FAKE e-mail from E-bay or Worldpay. It looks very legitimate! Except it says to money gram or wire transfer money to the AGENT. E-bay would NEVER request this. It is 100% forgery.

    So then the good part... I asked both for a phone number. I RECEIVED a number, to my surprise:

    "Greg Lambert" - #801-386-9706 - selling 2001 Jeep
    "Peter Torodic" - #801-783-3308 - selling 2001 Nissan Xterra

    If you ignore them for a day, you will get a follow up tugging on the heart strings:

    "i need to know your final decision, please understand me , i have a son in hospital ! "

    So they have REAL phone numbers, but the 801 extension must be in a foreign country, running through some sort of switchboard. I suggest everyone gives them a call!

    Ha for all I know - the 801 number will charge you $500 for calling it, too, so be leery. JEEZ the internet has become a dangerous place. I hope this helps a few people avoid getting bamboozled, and more importantly I hope we can catch some of these scumballers.

    Stay safe, BUY LOCAL!

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    2

    Craigslist/Online/Ebay Offer

    For some reason, my Spidey sense is going off on this one. I found this van on craigslist:

    http://denver.craigslist.org/car/569972873.html)

    I sent him an email and here is what I got. One of the things that set me off was the long explanation, etc. And the fact that he's in another country. What do you guys think?

    ---
    Hello,
    My name is _______ and I'm glad to see your interest in purchasing my car.
    What can I tell you in a few words is that I am an individual seller, I am not a dealer and this is my first type of auction on Craigslist. The car that I have for selling is mine, it is personal property and I am going to sell it because I was promoted to my work and in the same time they gave me a new car for work and moving for my needs. In conclusion, I don't need two good cars for the moment and I decided, after a discussion with my wife (sometimes is very difficult to be persuasive, you know what I mean) about selling my car, because it is senselessly to keep the car only to occupy the garage.
    In the above I told you I was promoted at work (extraordinary thing) but I had to move with my family in another location (we must do sacrifices all the time) and now I live in Edmonton Canada.
    The car is in mint condition, never been down or abused and it has 52,000 miles on it. It hasn't been involved in any accident or anything of this type. My final price on it is
    US 4,500 $.
    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only
    through eBay's Buyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected. You
    will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the
    car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 15 days) eBay will
    release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected.
    I know you need a bill of sale and the original title and it will be no problem, once you receive the car, you will receive them as well so you can register the car on your name.
    You will have along with the papers that you need for the registration a bill on your name with the price and short description to confirm that you have already bought the car.
    Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
    Best Regards,
    ____________

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
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    2

    Re: Craigslist/Online/Ebay Offer

    I just answered my own question when I found this thread:

    http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=9754

    What a tool! I almost fell for this. God, I am glad I did internet research. Thank GOD for this message board and the WWW.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    7,767

    Re: Craigslist/Online/Ebay Offer

    yeah, its nonsense. Ebay is not an escrow and does not hold money till you are satified. you will be told to send your money to an agent (ebay does not have agents) by western union. your money will just be gone.


    http://denver.craigslist.org/car/569972873.html
    This posting has been flagged for removal

  16. #16
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    Mar 2006
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    Re: Craigslist/Online/Ebay Offer

    Interesting,

    Forget any deal that involves Western Union or any so called excrow service, they are sure tip offs of a scam.

    Good luck,

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