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    Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Tempurature of Heaven
    The temperature of heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26 reads, "Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days."
    Thus, heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (49) times as much as the earth does from the sun, or fifty times in all. The light we receive from the moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature of heaven: The radiation falling on heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation. In other words, heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation:
    (H/E)4 = 50
    where E is the absolute temperature of the earth, 300K (273+27). This gives H the absolute temperature of heaven, as 798K (525C or 977F).

    Tempurature of Hell
    The exact temperature of hell cannot be computed but it must be less than 444.6C, the temperature at which brimstone or sulfur changes from a liquid to a gas. As stated in Revelations 21:8: "But the fearful and unbelieving... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, which is 444.6C. (Above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake.)
    We have then, temperature of heaven, 525C (977F) and the temperature of hell, less than or equal to (=>) 444.6C (>=832.28F). Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.

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    Re: Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    Tempurature of Heaven
    The temperature of heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26 reads, "Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days."
    Thus, heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (49) times as much as the earth does from the sun, or fifty times in all. The light we receive from the moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature of heaven: The radiation falling on heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation. In other words, heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation:
    (H/E)4 = 50
    where E is the absolute temperature of the earth, 300K (273+27). This gives H the absolute temperature of heaven, as 798K (525C or 977F).

    Tempurature of Hell
    The exact temperature of hell cannot be computed but it must be less than 444.6C, the temperature at which brimstone or sulfur changes from a liquid to a gas. As stated in Revelations 21:8: "But the fearful and unbelieving... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, which is 444.6C. (Above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake.)
    We have then, temperature of heaven, 525C (977F) and the temperature of hell, less than or equal to (=>) 444.6C (>=832.28F). Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.
    Talk about a skin cancer risk! Don't forget the sunblock! ! !

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    Re: Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    We have then, temperature of heaven, 525C (977F) and the temperature of hell, less than or equal to (=>) 444.6C (>=832.28F). Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.
    But telling someone to go "Burn in Heaven" doesn't have quite the impact.

    ;)


    And it may have the bright light but that doesn't mean it has the heat. Some lightbulbs burn brighter but cooler than regular lightbulbs.

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    "Go get blind in Heaven" :cool: (don't forget your shades)
    "Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true."

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    Re: Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    Tempurature of Heaven
    The temperature of heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26 reads, "Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days."
    Thus, heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (49) times as much as the earth does from the sun, or fifty times in all. The light we receive from the moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature of heaven: The radiation falling on heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation. In other words, heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation:
    (H/E)4 = 50
    where E is the absolute temperature of the earth, 300K (273+27). This gives H the absolute temperature of heaven, as 798K (525C or 977F).

    Tempurature of Hell
    The exact temperature of hell cannot be computed but it must be less than 444.6C, the temperature at which brimstone or sulfur changes from a liquid to a gas. As stated in Revelations 21:8: "But the fearful and unbelieving... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, which is 444.6C. (Above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake.)
    We have then, temperature of heaven, 525C (977F) and the temperature of hell, less than or equal to (=>) 444.6C (>=832.28F). Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.
    I've got to give it up for you. Your "Heaven Hotter Than Hell" post is very COOL.

    Of course, readers of your post (not to imply any of our current participants) who are not as intelligent as you, might miss the facetious nature of your post (assuming you intended it this way), and get the idea that Isaiah 30.26 is to be taken literally. Of course it is symbolic anf figurative, as similar language is also in Isaiah 24.23 and Revelation 21.23.

    As C.S. Lewis observed, if we take all Biblical reference literally, then Christ directed his followers to be like doves in order that they go out and lay eggs.

    And of course, the prophet Malachi, writing in Malachi chapter 3, really was thinking of the Messiah as a cosmic bar of soap.

    But thankfully all the participants in this forum are capable of thinking like adults, and can recognize the presence of figurative literature. But as a facetious construction, your post was brilliantlly done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    Tempurature of Heaven
    The temperature of heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26 reads, "Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days."
    Thus, heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (49) times as much as the earth does from the sun, or fifty times in all. The light we receive from the moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature of heaven: The radiation falling on heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation. In other words, heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation:
    (H/E)4 = 50
    where E is the absolute temperature of the earth, 300K (273+27). This gives H the absolute temperature of heaven, as 798K (525C or 977F).

    Tempurature of Hell
    The exact temperature of hell cannot be computed but it must be less than 444.6C, the temperature at which brimstone or sulfur changes from a liquid to a gas. As stated in Revelations 21:8: "But the fearful and unbelieving... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, which is 444.6C. (Above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake.)
    We have then, temperature of heaven, 525C (977F) and the temperature of hell, less than or equal to (=>) 444.6C (>=832.28F). Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.

    There's one flaw, though, Sub.

    I'm actually amazed you missed it, considering your scientific mind.



    You're making the presumption that the burning sulfure stays at 444.6C and no higher.

    Why so?

    That the melting point of sulfure is 444.6C doesn't mean that the said temperaurate can't get hotter.


    Ever hear of super-saturated steam? Is it a little hotter, or a lot hotter, than boiling water?


    :D :D :D

    Dude! Waiting for your answer on this one.

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    Haha to be honest I kindof just skimmed it, I stumbled upon a page with this and just copy/pasted it :)

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    Re: Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    Tempurature of Heaven
    The temperature of heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26 reads, "Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days."
    Thus, heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (49) times as much as the earth does from the sun, or fifty times in all. The light we receive from the moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature of heaven: The radiation falling on heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation. In other words, heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation:
    (H/E)4 = 50
    where E is the absolute temperature of the earth, 300K (273+27). This gives H the absolute temperature of heaven, as 798K (525C or 977F).

    Tempurature of Hell
    The exact temperature of hell cannot be computed but it must be less than 444.6C, the temperature at which brimstone or sulfur changes from a liquid to a gas. As stated in Revelations 21:8: "But the fearful and unbelieving... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, which is 444.6C. (Above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake.)
    We have then, temperature of heaven, 525C (977F) and the temperature of hell, less than or equal to (=>) 444.6C (>=832.28F). Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.

    Wait a minute! Do you suppose that they are BOTH one and the same? :eek:
    On the other hand, do you suppose there is trickery at work in the competition between Satan and God. Do you suppose that what id deemed as "heavenly" all along is the MOST Hellish place? :confused:
    For that matter, since God is supposed to be the "Master controller" of ALL, then how is it that he puts up with this nuisance Satan, who after all is accused of spoiling creation. And, instead of destroying him, we get destroyed. For one thing, being denied immortality in Eden by not being permitted from indulging in the "Tree of Life"? :rolleyes: SO supposedl, if we don't behave as we are supposed to :confused: we get handed over to this arch-nemesis. What is wrong with this picture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rp3miler
    I've got to give it up for you. Your "Heaven Hotter Than Hell" post is very COOL.

    Of course, readers of your post (not to imply any of our current participants) who are not as intelligent as you, might miss the facetious nature of your post (assuming you intended it this way), and get the idea that Isaiah 30.26 is to be taken literally. Of course it is symbolic anf figurative, as similar language is also in Isaiah 24.23 and Revelation 21.23.

    As C.S. Lewis observed, if we take all Biblical reference literally, then Christ directed his followers to be like doves in order that they go out and lay eggs.

    And of course, the prophet Malachi, writing in Malachi chapter 3, really was thinking of the Messiah as a cosmic bar of soap.

    But thankfully all the participants in this forum are capable of thinking like adults, and can recognize the presence of figurative literature. But as a facetious construction, your post was brilliantlly done.
    Did he provide this item as an intentional "facetious construction" or are you just assuming that, in order to fit into your personal agenda? :rolleyes:
    It seems a goodly objective exercise. When I commence to read it one of my intial thoughts was: "Sun", "Moon". Wait a minute, we are talking planet Earth yet. SO what's changed? if this Earth is the 'heaven to come' it will be one crowded place, considering all those that have gone before us, we now and those yet to come. Unless you are one that smugly believes that there will be very few "saved" that will be there, you of course being one of them! :rolleyes:

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    Re: Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by sojustask
    But telling someone to go "Burn in Heaven" doesn't have quite the impact.

    ;)


    And it may have the bright light but that doesn't mean it has the heat. Some lightbulbs burn brighter but cooler than regular lightbulbs.

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    Hmmmm... burning is burning isn't it? For that matter, I prefer to remain here and chant over a bonfire occasionally! :D

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    Re: Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by EveryKnee
    There's one flaw, though, Sub.

    I'm actually amazed you missed it, considering your scientific mind.



    You're making the presumption that the burning sulfure stays at 444.6C and no higher.

    Why so?

    That the melting point of sulfure is 444.6C doesn't mean that the said temperaurate can't get hotter.


    Ever hear of super-saturated steam? Is it a little hotter, or a lot hotter, than boiling water?




    Dude! Waiting for your answer on this one.

    Why "get hotter than 446 degress". That is enough to do the job. Why get carried away? :rolleyes: :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by coontie
    Wait a minute! Do you suppose that they are BOTH one and the same? :eek:
    On the other hand, do you suppose there is trickery at work in the competition between Satan and God. Do you suppose that what id deemed as "heavenly" all along is the MOST Hellish place? :confused:
    For that matter, since God is supposed to be the "Master controller" of ALL, then how is it that he puts up with this nuisance Satan, who after all is accused of spoiling creation. And, instead of destroying him, we get destroyed. For one thing, being denied immortality in Eden by not being permitted from indulging in the "Tree of Life"? :rolleyes: SO supposedl, if we don't behave as we are supposed to :confused: we get handed over to this arch-nemesis. What is wrong with this picture?
    God's plan, whether you understand it or not.

    And you excluded the Redeemer.

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    Re: Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by coontie
    Why "get hotter than 446 degress". That is enough to do the job. Why get carried away? :rolleyes: :D
    ......Why not?

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    [QUOTE=EveryKnee]God's plan, whether you understand it or not.


    Shoooo! go away pest. Who called you out of your coffin in Transalavania? :rolleyes:

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    Re: Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by EveryKnee
    ......Why not?
    yeah, like you're accustomed to...

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    Re: Heaven is hotter than Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by coontie
    Wait a minute! Do you suppose that they are BOTH one and the same? :eek:
    Well either way I think I like Earth better than either of them. I don't want Hell because I don't want eternal suffering but I don't want Heaven because it would be boring to exist without goals or wants. Maybe if I get to Heaven I'll just request reincarnation ;)

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