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  1. #1
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    ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Has anyone else received (or responded ) to this ad?
    I've received it from 2 different people/companies...this one is B&G Publishing in Clifton Park, NY.
    Instructions are to mail one letter (which they will provide) to "Business A".
    Then they will send back to me a very specific type of information. Put the material that ....blah blah....add some blah blah,,, and then mail that to "Business B".

    Has anyone tried this before? Does anyone know what this business is?

    Curious,
    Starlighter

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    This is scam business.

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    It's pretty obvious it's a scam.

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Hi every one dont send your money to this guy it is a scam .I to would like to get rich ,we all would !! the only one that is going to make eny money from this is Dickson !No one in there right is going to give you something for nothing .it will cost you your $32.00 +the cost of your mailing list, + post & you might get 5 to 10 . Also if you get cought. If you Want to make money come up with your own scam then make your own sells pitch buy your mailing list pay your postage send out your own letters kick back clect your own checks and count your money have a good day all the way to the bank
    Last edited by broncosfan49; 08-28-2007 at 10:06 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    This is a scam. Anything that sounds too good to be true, usually is. If it was so easy to make $15,000 dollars a month, wouldn't we all be doing it? Now it's not impossible to make a great income from home, it just takes some research to find an honest company, that doesn't make false promises. When I was searching for a home business, I did alot of research and went through alot of trial and error. There are alot of scams and companies that give you false hope, however eventually I was able to find a company that doubled my income and gave me alot of free time to spend with my family. When searching for a home based business, look for one that has a great product, excellent support and training. Good luck in your search!
    Kerry-Ann Crawford
    Home Business Consultant
    www.excellentincomeonline.com
    "Abundance is a choice.. . Do what is necessary...And Life by Design is Attainable"

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Is this the same company or

    affiliate company called Vanderbilt

    Enterprises out of Minneapolis, MN:1crysad:

  7. #7

    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by computergirl View Post
    Is this the same company or

    affiliate company called Vanderbilt

    Enterprises out of Minneapolis, MN:1crysad:
    Vanderbilt Enterprises
    Paul Vanderbilt
    7040 Lakeland Ave. N.
    Suite 200
    Minneapolis, MN. 55428-5616

    I have dealt with this company recently and I will say that I was not impressed. For $25.00 you get a booklet entitled "Who wants to become a millionaire". In the initial advertisement letter that you receive, it states "Proof will be sent with order". However, no proof is provided with order. The booklet is just an outline of a money making plan that explains how it is supposed to work. That is all. Paul Vanderbilt also does not provide any testimonials to back up any claims about his system.

    In his advertisment letter, Paul Vanderbilt refers to his method as the unique GG-1 technique. However, in the booklet "Who wants to become a millionaire" he refers to his technique as the G2-22 method. Also, in his advertisement letter he makes it sound like he put together a money making plan. However, in the booklet "Who wants to become a millionaire" Paul Vanderbilt's name is not mentioned once. He did not write the booklet, he is just marketing it.

    I did write Paul Vanderbilt and asked him about these concerns, as well as a refund. I also asked Paul Vanderbilt if he and his company (Vanderbilt Enterprises) were affiliated with (Victor Dickson and Double Action Formula). I asked that because both Vanderbilt Enterprises and Double Action Formula material is about 95% identical.

    I did get a reponse back and a refund from Paul Vanderbilt. The only concern that Paul Vanderbilt addressed was that in no way was Vanderbilt Enterprises affiliated with Victor Dickson and Double Action Formula. Paul Vanderbilt goes on to say that Victor Dickson and Double Action Formula is a disgrace and is giving mail order businesses a bad name. Paul Vanderbilt did not address the lack of proof or the inconsistencies from the advertisement letter to the booklet.

    Despite the fact that Vanderbilt Enterprises is not affilated with Double Action Formula, I still do not recommend this company to anyone.
    "The mind bends and twists in order to deal with the horrors of life...
    ...sometimes the mind bends so much it snaps in two".

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    ok i just received this in the mail today but the address is mail dispatch release in new york and the guys name is victor not too much info and he is offering a double your money back gurantee. lol yea right

  9. #9

    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by Knight-mare View Post
    Vanderbilt Enterprises
    Paul Vanderbilt
    7040 Lakeland Ave. N.
    Suite 200
    Minneapolis, MN. 55428-5616

    I have dealt with this company recently and I will say that I was not impressed. For $25.00 you get a booklet entitled "Who wants to become a millionaire". In the initial advertisement letter that you receive, it states "Proof will be sent with order". However, no proof is provided with order. The booklet is just an outline of a money making plan that explains how it is supposed to work. That is all. Paul Vanderbilt also does not provide any testimonials to back up any claims about his system.

    In his advertisment letter, Paul Vanderbilt refers to his method as the unique GG-1 technique...
    I would like to add that yet another 'version' is alive today, May of 2009.

    We have a strikingly similar letter ...same price, still working on that "GG-1 formula..." by the way! Also, "proof will be sent with order" etc. all just as described by Knight-mare :spin2:

    However, there is NO NAME associated with this latest incarnation. It's all "I this ..." and "I that ..." with no name in any of the advertising material, period.

    You remit only to some entity called "Unitor" ...at the following address:
    2409 N Rice Street - Suite 240
    Saint Paul, MN 55113.

    The original sales letter was in an envelope with large printing: "AIR MAIL JET-LETTER" rofl
    but stamped single 44c in Minneapolis, MN.

    Forever ...round and round, I guess!

    -ScreamingEagle
    Last edited by ScreamingEagle; 06-02-2009 at 07:18 AM.
    "To scam or not to scam" - the great Internet challenge.

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by starlighter View Post
    Has anyone else received (or responded ) to this ad?
    I've received it from 2 different people/companies...this one is B&G Publishing in Clifton Park, NY.
    Instructions are to mail one letter (which they will provide) to "Business A".
    Then they will send back to me a very specific type of information. Put the material that ....blah blah....add some blah blah,,, and then mail that to "Business B".

    Has anyone tried this before? Does anyone know what this business is?

    Curious,
    Starlighter

    I got the same kind of letter today (10-27-20090 from a Rick Nelson. He wants $25 and to send it to Unitor, 2499 N. Rice Street, Suite 240, Saint Paul, Minnesota 55113. I haven't decided whether this guy is legit or not and I can't find anything about him or his company on the intenet so far. It does sound rather ineesting. I just don't know if I want to gamble $25 on something that may or not be a scam.

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by lee233 View Post
    I got the same kind of letter today (10-27-20090 from a Rick Nelson. He wants $25 and to send it to Unitor, 2499 N. Rice Street, Suite 240, Saint Paul, Minnesota 55113. I haven't decided whether this guy is legit or not and I can't find anything about him or his company on the intenet so far. It does sound rather ineesting. I just don't know if I want to gamble $25 on something that may or not be a scam.

    Sorry for my errors above, but my "r" key doesn't work too well

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    I don't know if this is legit or not, I get ai least 4 or more of these similar offers and each one offers to be the only one that works and of course they all want $25 or more. So does anyone have any info out there? :spin2:

  13. #13

    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Unfortunately, these like all similar (and they seem to be growing yearly) are pure scams. After I researched these ("Unitor" and similar) earlier this year, I found that most just received no further contact after sending their money. Others said they did get a piece of paper giving them worthless info about setting up one of these "$15,000 per month" scams yourself. The "Proof" that it works, which is supposed to be mailed to you after sending in the $25, is never again mentioned by the scammer and follow-up inquiries are ignored.

    Dump these in the trash, please!

    -Screaming Eagle
    Last edited by ScreamingEagle; 11-02-2009 at 02:03 AM.
    "To scam or not to scam" - the great Internet challenge.

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by ScreamingEagle View Post
    Unfortunately, these like all similar (and they seem to be growing yearly) are pure scams. After I researched these ("Unitor" and similar) earlier this year, I found that most just received no further contact after sending their money. Others said they did get a piece of paper giving them worthless info about setting up one of these "$15,000 per month" scams yourself. The "Proof" that it works, which is supposed to be mailed to you after sending in the $25, is never again mentioned by the scammer and follow-up inquiries are ignored.

    Dump these in the trash, please!

    -Screaming Eagle
    I just received one of these from a 'Jane & Charles McCarthy' under the company heading of 'A.C.I. West Division Headquarters' based in San Francisco :judges:

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by The Daredevil View Post
    I just received one of these from a 'Jane & Charles McCarthy' under the company heading of 'A.C.I. West Division Headquarters' based in San Francisco
    Also received the mail from 'Jane & Charles McCarthy' of 'A.C.I.'...

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by ScreamingEagle View Post
    I would like to add that yet another 'version' is alive today, May of 2009.

    We have a strikingly similar letter ...same price, still working on that "GG-1 formula..." by the way! Also, "proof will be sent with order" etc. all just as described by Knight-mare :spin2:

    However, there is NO NAME associated with this latest incarnation. It's all "I this ..." and "I that ..." with no name in any of the advertising material, period.

    You remit only to some entity called "Unitor" ...at the following address:
    2409 N Rice Street - Suite 240
    Saint Paul, MN 55113.

    The original sales letter was in an envelope with large printing: "AIR MAIL JET-LETTER" rofl
    but stamped single 44c in Minneapolis, MN.

    Forever ...round and round, I guess!

    -ScreamingEagle

    I actually got the "Unitor" letter in the mail yesterday. I always get stuff like this in the mail, and always check into them, but they're scams. I mean really? Mail two letters and make $15,000.00 in one month, I laughed when I read it. It was also a "Jet-Letter" with no return address.

    The address on my "payment envelope" is 1970 Oakcrest Ave, Suite 118, Roseville, MN 55113.

    May see what else I can find out about them :)

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    I clicked this post thinking it would be another check scam ... apparently not.
    :2gunsfiring_v1:419:judges:

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteKamikaze View Post
    I actually got the "Unitor" letter in the mail yesterday. I always get stuff like this in the mail, and always check into them, but they're scams. I mean really? Mail two letters and make $15,000.00 in one month, I laughed when I read it. It was also a "Jet-Letter" with no return address.

    The address on my "payment envelope" is 1970 Oakcrest Ave, Suite 118, Roseville, MN 55113.

    May see what else I can find out about them :)

    Awful lot of businesses listed for that one suite, aren't there?
    I used the phone number and found a supposed "notary" and accounting service. Hmm. I don't think so.

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    I got a letter from Unitor at 1970 Oakcrest Ave
    Suite 118 Saint Paul MN 55113
    I used his reply envelope but instead of sending him $25 I put a note in there that said
    "why don't you get a job instead of trying to
    steal from me"

    That is the reply I send to all mail and internet
    scams yb:

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by The Daredevil View Post
    I just received one of these from a 'Jane & Charles McCarthy' under the company heading of 'A.C.I. West Division Headquarters' based in San Francisco :judges:
    THEY SHOULD LOCKKKKKKKKKKKKK ALL THEM SKUMMMMMMMMMMMMM BAGS UP CAUSE THEY NEED TO GET OFF THERE LAZY ASS AN GET A REAL JOBBBBBBBB INSTEAD OF STEALING FROM POOR PEOPLEEEEEEEEEEEE

  22. #21

    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    Quote Originally Posted by starlighter View Post
    Has anyone else received (or responded ) to this ad?
    I've received it from 2 different people/companies...this one is B&G Publishing in Clifton Park, NY.
    Instructions are to mail one letter (which they will provide) to "Business A".
    Then they will send back to me a very specific type of information. Put the material that ....blah blah....add some blah blah,,, and then mail that to "Business B".

    Has anyone tried this before? Does anyone know what this business is?

    Curious,
    Starlighter
    YES I ALSO GOT ONE OF THESE LETTERS BUT I WAS STUPID ENOUGH I SENT IN THE 25.00 BUT I PROMISE U IF I DO NOT HEAR NOTING REAL SOON NOW I AM FIXING TO FILE A LAW SUITE AGAIST THEM CAUSE THERE IS A AN EXCLUSIVE NO RISK 5 YEAR /5000 GUARANTEE WITH MINE AN I PROMISE U THAT WILL STAND UP IN COURT IN TEXAS:zx11pissed:::judges::spin2::

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    On Tuesday, May 8th, 2018, I put a letter in the mail with a $30 money order made out to Vanderbilt Enterprises, 14607 Felton Court,(suite 116), Apple Valley, MN 55124. I had been receiving this program for 2 years. I finally decided to send for it. Yesterday, May 21, I received a letter in the mail from this company. There was a short note that said: Dear Friend, unfortunately this program is no longer available due to circumstances beyond our control. Enclosed was my $30 money order, un-cashed. I was a little disappointed. Now you may think I am a little na´ve. I have always been a "dreamer"; but you see, I just turned 78. Just celebrated 51 years of marriage, only by the grace of GOD. Have 5 children (3 are in Heaven) 6 grandchildren. We have been on S.S. for the past 15 years. The LORD has called us to a ministry Of Prayer & Healing. The LORD is allowing us to support 5 ministries each month that feed the hungry, drill water wells and preach the Gospel to the poor. The LORD is preparing me to go "Home" soon. I have started several companies in the last 50 years. some were only partially successful. Have been involved in several multi-Million dollar deals ...etc. And yes, I still attend seminars, and send for stuff in the mail. I don't think Paul Vanderbilt was to trying to "scam" anyone. I know several other programs that are similar that are legitimate and work. But they are more expensive. $1,000 or more. They do consulting for businesses. I think this program is similar; but I could be wrong. None of his will matter once we cross over to the other side. All that will matter is what we did for the LORD. GOD is not dead. Jesus is Alive! And He Loves you more than you will ever be able to understand. He died for us; shed His precious Blood for us. had to take upon His Shoulders the whole massed sin of the human race; became an Ugly thing. So ugly GOD the Father had to turn His Face away from His Beautiful Son for the first time in all Eternity. Had to go down to the depths of Hell to be tortured, tormented. GOD the Father had to break His Own Heart; and punish His Innocent Son for our sin. (Please read "Destined for the Throne" by Paul Billheimer) When His Wrath was satisfied, He raised Him up to sit at His Right Hand. There is a Man sitting on the right side Throne of GOD, representing us before the Father and the courts of Heaven Who has paid for all of our sin; past, present and future. Have you received Him as Your LORD and Savior? If not, please do that ASAP. "For all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of GOD." Rom:3:23
    "That if you confess with your mouth "Jesus is LORD", and you believe GOD the Father raised Him from the dead you will be saved. For it is with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation. Rom: 10:9,10. If you would like us to pray for you, please send request to our e-mail address. WorldWay5000@gmail.com Justin

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    On Tuesday, May 8th, 2018, I sent a $30 money order to Vanderbilt Enterprises for their program. On Monday, may 21, 2018, I received a letter in the mail from that company saying: Dear Friend, Unfortunately this program is no longer available due to circumstances beyond our control. Enclosed was my un-cashed money order. I was a little disappointed. I had been receiving their mail for 2 years. I finally decided to send for the program. You may think I am a little na´ve; I have always been a "dreamer". In the past 50 years, I have started several businesses. Some were partially successful; some not so. I just turned 78. Wife and I have been married 51 years, only by the Grace of GOD. We have 5 beautiful children. (3 are in Heaven). We have 6 grandchildren, 3 dogs & 2 cats. And yes, I still go to the seminars; belong to several R.E. groups. And I still send for stuff in the mail. We have been on S.S. for over 12 years now trying to get all the bills paid on time each month. But the LORD has allowed us to support 5 ministries each month that are feeding the hungry and poor, drilling water wells, saving children from "trafficking" and preaching the Gospel. The LORD is preparing me to go "Home". Once we cross over to the other side, the only things that will matter are the things we did for Him. GOD is not dead; Jesus is Alive! And when He went to the Cross, He paid for all of our Sin, past, present & future. He cried out "my GOD, my GOD, why hast thou forsaken Me?" For the first time in all Eternity, GOD the Father had to turn His Face away from His Beautiful Son; He had to take upon His Shoulders the whole massed Sin of the Human Race; He became an Ugly thing; so Ugly, GOD the Father had to turn His Face away. Then our LORD had to go down to the depths of Hell and be tortured. Then GOD the Father had to punish His Innocent Son for our sin. He had to "tear out His broken Heart to pour out His Wrath upon His Innocent Son. Only GOD the Father and GOD the Son know the Extreme Pain and suffering that He went through for us. When His Wrath was satisfied, He raised Him up and seated Him at His Right Hand. There is a Man, GOD Incarnate sitting at the Right hand of GOD the Father who is our Attorney, representing us before GOD the Father and the Supreme Court of Heaven. Who has all Power in Heaven and Earth. GOD Loves us and wants to have a Love Relationship with us. The Word of GOD tells us that: "all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of GOD." Rom: 3:23. All our sin is paid for; but we must receive the "free" Gift of Salvation by first confessing our sin and acknowledging our need of a Savior. Then ask Him to come into our heart to be our LORD and Savior. If you are sincere, you will be "Saved'. that if you confess with your mouth "Jesus is LORD", and you believe in your heart that GOD the Father has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Rom: 10:9. for with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation. Rom: 10:10. For by Grace you have been saved through Faith, and that not of yourselves; it the Gift of GOD. Ephesians: 2:8. The LORD has called us to a ministry of Prayer and Healing. If you would like us to pray for you, please contact our e-mail: WorldWay5000@gmail.com I don't think Paul Vanderbilt was trying to "scam" people. In fact I think I know what this program is about. There are a couple of other programs I know about that do consulting work for businesses. But they are about $1,000 buy in. May the LORD Bless and Guide you this year. In Jesus' Name. Please get into the Word of GOD and Please read the book: "Destined for the Throne" by Paul Billheimer. Justin

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    Re: ???$15,000 a month just mail 2 letters???

    15,000 a month just mail 2 letters

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