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    Iran’s President Speaks Out

    IRAN’S PRESIDENT SPEAKS OUT
    AHMADINEJAD CHALLENGES NEW WORLD ORDER HEAD ON


    By Michael Collins Piper

    Even as The New York Sun—a fanatically pro-Israel daily—was editorially demanding his arrest “as a material witness or even as a suspect” in terrorism, outspoken Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was arriving in New York for a whirlwind visit last week. Speaking to the United Nations and visiting privately with different groups, journalists and scholars were anxious to hear what the ex-university professorturned-Mayor of Tehran-turned Iranian president had to say.

    This comes at a time when the Islamic republic of Iran is at the center of the global spotlight, the focus of provocative, warlike rhetoric by Israel and its ally, George W. Bush.

    Even Ahmadinejad’s invitation to speak at the Manhattan headquarters of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), meeting place of the American foreign policy elite, created a stir. Led by Holocaust industry figure Elie Wiesel, Jewish members of the CFR threatened mass resignation if the Iranian leader was permitted to speak, although the revolt never materialized.

    Wiesel—whose own credibility is questionable—told anyone who would listen that he believed Ahmadinejad should be declared persona non grata in the United States and that Iran itself should be expelled from the UN while Ahmadinejad is president.

    In the end, the proposed formal dinner with Ahmadinejad at the CFR was nixed since Jewish members of the CFR said that they could not abide the thought of sitting down to dinner with the Iranian leader. Instead, Ahmadinejad met with a small number of CFR members in a less formal gathering.

    As pro-Israel groups organized boisterous mass anti-Ahmadinejad demonstrations outside the United Nations and the hotel where Ahmadinejad was headquartered, there were some sane folks who did agree to speak with the Iranian president and listen to what he had to say, without interruption. This contrasted with the treatment often accorded Ahmadinejad by biased American media personalities and by the American president who refuses to speak to the Iranian leader.

    Speaking at the gathering of the bellicose rhetoric of Bush and his Israeli allies, Ahmadinejad insisted U.S. policy makers are “too smart” to think seriously about war with Iran. In fact, he said, the threats and tough talk by the United States are being used by the White House to apply what he called “psychological pressure” on the European countries to support sanctions against Iraq.

    Ahmadinejad predicted any military moves against Iran “will not favor the United States government or the American people.” He pointed out that, even now, “All of the people of our region are beginning to hate the United States because of the policies of the Bush administration.”

    And it should be noted, that fully 118 countries recently aligned themselves with Iran’s drive to secure nuclear energy for peaceful purposes—and against the Israel-U.S. axis—at the recent summit of nonaligned nations in Cuba.

    The Iranian president expressed dismay that his recent extended letter to President Bush asking for an opening of dialogue, followed by an offer to publicly debate the American leader before the United Nations, has gone unanswered.

    “I hoped President Bush would respond to my letter to him. My letter was a human act, not a political act. I meet and dialogue with many people on a daily basis.”

    He noted: “There is no better way than holding dialogue. It can be across the spectrum. Any condition for dialogue is helpful to remove tensions. We’ve announced on numerous occasions that we are open for dialogue, but under conditions of mutual respect. Relations can be friendly, balanced and fair.”

    Expressing his personal interest and his nation’s interest in, at the very least, opening up exchanges of scientists and academics between the United States and Iran, Ahmadinejad said: “We’ve been urging the institution of a direct flight between Tehran and New York for a long time. We will provide facilities for such exchanges.”

    The Iranian president added: “We were very sorry when the United States refused our offer of humanitarian support for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.”

    Reflecting upon the possibility that the Bush administration and Israel not only seek to stop Iran from expanding its current nuclear program—which has been the publicly expressed reason for the campaign being waged against Iran—but also have the intention of toppling the Ahmadinejad government and forcing a complete change in the Iranian system of government, the Iranian leader remarked:

    Of course, we oppose this type of thinking by the U.S. administration. But they will never be able to impose regime change on Iran. Iran doesn’t need a guardian. This thinking is part of the past.


    Why does Mr. Bush believe that he can think better than the Iranian people and choose their leadership? Imagine me—as the president of Iran—saying to the American people: “I want to save the American people.” Think of how the Iranian people respond to President Bush’s rhetoric of that type. What is it that Mr. Bush wants to hand to Iran?
    Iran has always been Iran, but we have now become independent of the West. Iran is stronger than ever. Iran is a nation of families, friends and neighbors who live like one family, and there will be reactions from the people of Iran to any interference in our nation’s affairs.

    As far as Iran’s alleged desire to assemble nuclear weapons, Ahmadinejad noted that Iran’s nuclear program is being supervised by the International Atomic Energy Agency. “It’s round the clock, with cameras,” he pointed out. In addition, he noted, Iran has signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty.

    Ahmadinejad didn’t mention it, but the truth is that Israel, which has one of the world’s largest nuclear weapons arsenals, has never signed that treaty, nor does it even officially admit that it has nuclear capabilities.

    In addition, although it is not widely reported by the American media—which portrays Iran feverishly working to build “the Islamic bomb”—the fact is, as noted by Ahmadinejad, Iran’s supreme Muslim religious leader actually issued an edict, known as a “fatwa,” prohibiting Iran’s building of a nuclear weapon. “In light of that,” said Ahmadinejad, “it can be said that, religiously speaking, we are against nuclear weapons. We are fundamentally against nuclear weapons. They are for killing.”

    What’s more, he pointed out: “The Iranian people don’t need a nuclear weapon. For eight years, during the Iran-Iraq war, we had a voluntary army—including Christians—that rallied to the defense of the nation. Iranians have a love affair with their country.”

    Yet, Ahmadinejad asked this: “How can those nations that have nuclear arsenals object to those nations that are trying to produce nuclear fuel for peaceful purposes? The nuclear arena should not be monopolized by a select group of countries.”

    Responding to allegations that his country suppresses the media, Ahmadinejad noted, with a smile, that:




    continued....
    franKg - "Since God was ok with Moses, Joshua and David burning cities to the ground and killing all the civilians I think he would be ok with us splashing a little water on some terrorists."

    Dr poormouth - "Exackly;
    It's not "waterboarding", it's "extraordinary baptism""

    Quote Originally Posted by carlbenator
    As discussed in a previous thread, this IRRATIONAL HATRED for the Jews and their RIGHT to SURVIVE is one of the many PROOFS of a God, AND a Devil.

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    If you look at the volume of criticism of the Iranian government and my administration in the media and in academia in Iran, it is substantial. In fact, one of our own government newspapers was recently shut down because it insulted a tribe within our country and that was in violation of the law.
    So our own government newspaper was punished for violating the law. Iranian journalists accompanying me to the United States were denied visas by the United States government. These journalists are not allowed to travel beyond the confines of the United Nations building.
    But after I was elected president of Iran, some 200 journalists from all over the world visited a small village where I lived for a very brief period as a small child and interviewed everybody they could find: the baker, the man who tended the fruit stand, all of the neighbors.

    As far as political freedom in Iran is concerned, Ahmadinejad noted that in the presidential race in which he was elected, “there were eight different candidates from very different backgrounds, representing very diverse platforms.”

    He pointed out that “Our 290-member consultative assembly is wide-open to a variety of ideas and opinions. It is not run along party lines as you find in the United States, for example.” He added:

    “Anyone can come to Iran and see that young people, old people—all people—are very politicized and have wideranging opinions. They are cognizant of what is happening in the news about the world today and are very much interested in what’s happening. Americans are not fingerprinted when they come to Iran, but people from other lands are fingerprinted when they come to America.”

    Of the efforts by the Christian and Muslim peoples of Palestine to win a homeland, Ahmadinejad reiterated his longtime concerns that reflect the thinking of millions of people around the globe:

    “The fate of humanity is connected to what happens in Palestine. The time for occupation in Palestine has long ended. For a thousand years or more, Palestine was Palestine and nothing else. However, for the last 60 years we have seen nothing but hostility and bloodshed and tragedy there. Small babies being killed. Homes destroyed. For what? What is the root cause? The Palestinian people should be able to return to their homeland and choose their own leadership there.”

    Addressing hysterical charges that he is a “Holocaust denier,” as has been repeatedly mentioned in American media reports about him, Ahmadinejad said:

    I have been criticized in the media for asking for scientific evidence relating to events that were said to have happened during World War II. During that war, some 60 million people died. Yet one small group has gained prominence as victims as if other lives don’t matter.
    In our society today, God and democracy can be freely researched and questioned. There are many books and papers and commentaries published on these topics, but the question of events in World War II cannot be discussed.

    I believe, in the spirit of understanding, that we need to do further research in this realm, for the more we understand what really happened, the more we can do to alleviate problems in our society.

    In the end, after all, if these things happened, they happened in Europe. They did not happen in Palestine. So therefore, why did the Palestinians have to pay the price? There are five million displaced Palestinians in the world today.

    Reflecting in general on the world situation, the Iranian president concluded:

    “In our world today there are small groups that seek power and wealth. But most societies seek freedom, peace and justice. We have said we are against the imposition of a unilateral position upon the world. The United Nations must be independent of any single power.”

    It is not for nothing that Ahmadinejad personally impresses even hostile journalists who meet him. He is witty, whip-smart, deeply spiritual and intellectual and as even Fareed Zakaria, editor of Newsweek International, admitted in The Washington Post: “I was struck by how little he conformed to the picture of a madman . . . always calm and intelligent.”

    Ahmadinejad has established himself as a firm voice against the forces that demand submission to a New World Order.



    A journalist specializing in media critique, Michael Collins Piper is the author of Final Judgment, the controversial “underground bestseller” documenting the collaboration of Israeli intelligence in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. He is also the author of The High Priests of War and The New Jerusalem. all available from FIRST AMENDMENT BOOKS.He has lectured on these topics in places as diverse as Malaysia, Japan, Canada, Moscow and Abu Dhabi.

    (Issue #41, October 9, 2006)

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    franKg - "Since God was ok with Moses, Joshua and David burning cities to the ground and killing all the civilians I think he would be ok with us splashing a little water on some terrorists."

    Dr poormouth - "Exackly;
    It's not "waterboarding", it's "extraordinary baptism""

    Quote Originally Posted by carlbenator
    As discussed in a previous thread, this IRRATIONAL HATRED for the Jews and their RIGHT to SURVIVE is one of the many PROOFS of a God, AND a Devil.

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    Re: Iran’s President Speaks Out

    I understand your anti-Israeli stance, but what's your angle here with regard to Ahmadinejad? He's a great guy, just a little misunderstood?

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    But most societies seek freedom, peace and justice.
    LOL. And this is from Ahmadi-nutjob. He built such a free society for his people. Women do not have rights. Opposition is in jail. And head of the government constantly announces that he will erase whole countries from the face of the world. And despite widespread poverty all money are diverted in to nuclear weapons projects. Nice guy all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yossarian
    I understand your anti-Israeli stance, but what's your angle here with regard to Ahmadinejad? He's a great guy, just a little misunderstood?
    Once one understands the position of the western media, it isn't too difficult to observe them at work when twisting his words. Indeed, as it appears thus far, he isn't interested in waging war, rather than to garner attention to shed light on certain sacred cows. Consider the following:

    - Iran is a member of the NPT, Israel isn't. Who possesses nuclear weapons presently?

    - The last war Iran was involved in ?

    - The quote that really riled up certain people was his supposed quote vowing to wipe Israel off the map. The following is his actual quote:
    "the Zionist regime will be wiped out soon, the same way the Soviet Union was, and humanity will achieve freedom."

    (excerpt)
    Just as the Soviet Union was not wiped out in a hail of nuclear weapons, Ahmadinejad does not suggest using force to bring about the demise of Israel. Nor would this be remotely realistic since Israel is believed to enjoy an overwhelming military superiority over any combination of Arab and Muslim states.



    http://eatthestate.org/11-12/AhmadinejadTaleTwo.htm

    excerpt:
    - The BBC has quoted Ahmadinejad as saying: "If European countries claim that they have killed Jews in World War II ... why don't they provide the Zionist regime with a piece of Europe." While the "if" is obviously provocative and even indecent, neither this nor numerous other quotes suggest that Ahmadinejad is a Holocaust denier. Rather, he objects to Israel's invocations of the Nazi genocide as its raison d'etre and makes his own political use of its memory: He seeks to test the limits of freedom of speech in the West and to highlight the plight of the Palestinians.



    Essentially, under the Zionist media apparatus, they will ensure that Ahmadinejad appears hell bent on destroying Israel with nuclear weapons. Ultimately, to assume his position is based upon the western media convolution of words, rather than read his actual quote in its entirety, is to put ourselves in the danger of relying on "faulty intelligence" yet once again.

    Judge for yourself based on the actual quotes compared to the regurgitated fabrications put out in some of the major media.
    franKg - "Since God was ok with Moses, Joshua and David burning cities to the ground and killing all the civilians I think he would be ok with us splashing a little water on some terrorists."

    Dr poormouth - "Exackly;
    It's not "waterboarding", it's "extraordinary baptism""

    Quote Originally Posted by carlbenator
    As discussed in a previous thread, this IRRATIONAL HATRED for the Jews and their RIGHT to SURVIVE is one of the many PROOFS of a God, AND a Devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borisf96
    LOL. And this is from Ahmadi-nutjob. He built such a free society for his people. Women do not have rights. Opposition is in jail. And head of the government constantly announces that he will erase whole countries from the face of the world. And despite widespread poverty all money are diverted in to nuclear weapons projects. Nice guy all around.
    Where did you get your information, the western media? LOL....
    franKg - "Since God was ok with Moses, Joshua and David burning cities to the ground and killing all the civilians I think he would be ok with us splashing a little water on some terrorists."

    Dr poormouth - "Exackly;
    It's not "waterboarding", it's "extraordinary baptism""

    Quote Originally Posted by carlbenator
    As discussed in a previous thread, this IRRATIONAL HATRED for the Jews and their RIGHT to SURVIVE is one of the many PROOFS of a God, AND a Devil.

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    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1139395563055


    A delegation from the anti-Zionist Neturei Karta sect is currently visiting Teheran to meet with senior officials and express their support for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his calls to eliminate Israel.

    In a statement to Iran's official IRIB radio, the group called for "the disintegration of the Zionist regime" and defended the Iranian president, saying that it "is a dangerous deviation to pretend that the Iranian president is an anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic personality."

    They added that they were "upset about the recent ploys, propaganda and tensions which have been created by the West regarding the statements of the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about a world free of Zionism, since this is nothing more than wishing for a better world dominated by peace and calm."

    On Sunday, members of the delegation, headed by Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, met with Iranian Vice-President Ahmad Moussavi, who also chairs the Iranian Committee in Support of the Palestinian Revolution.

    At the meeting, according to the Iranian news agency IRNA, Weiss "praised the 'enlightening' statements of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about the Holocaust and said the establishment of a Zionist government and occupation of Palestine are contrary to the injunctions of Judaism."

    The doctrine of Neturei Karta says Jews cannot use human force to establish a Jewish state before the coming of the universally accepted messiah.

    The group supports close ties with Arabs, particularly Palestinians, and rejects Zionism.

    Ahmadinejad has been widely condemned in the West for asserting that the Holocaust is a myth.

    This is not the first time that Neturei Karta has come to the defense of the Iranian regime. On October 28 of last year, the group issued a statement denying that Ahmadinejad was anti-Semitic after he called for the State of Israel to be dismantled.

    Neturei Karta's leader, Rabbi Moshe Hirsh, considers himself a Palestinian Jew. The group has frequently participated in pro-Palestinian activities, including a visit to the grave of Palestinian Authority chairman Yasser Arafat in Ramallah in November.
    franKg - "Since God was ok with Moses, Joshua and David burning cities to the ground and killing all the civilians I think he would be ok with us splashing a little water on some terrorists."

    Dr poormouth - "Exackly;
    It's not "waterboarding", it's "extraordinary baptism""

    Quote Originally Posted by carlbenator
    As discussed in a previous thread, this IRRATIONAL HATRED for the Jews and their RIGHT to SURVIVE is one of the many PROOFS of a God, AND a Devil.

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    Israel has Neturei Karta , we have Liberals, I guess every country has wack jobs that are hell bent on supporting their countries enemies , maybe ASS -CAN has found his calling as a member of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard rather than posting year old hate articles
    Originally posted by Americanadian
    Palin: Omit the "i" and you're left with "Pain".

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    Fvcking Iranians. Why do they have to be so irrational? Why couldn’t they just sit down and write us a nice note, promising to allow inspections of their nuclear facilities and end their support for Lebanese and Palestinian militants. Life would be so much easier if they’d just act like they did four years ago when they wrote that exact fvcking letter . They even threw in helping us stabilize Iraq - like we’d ever need help with that.:rolleyes:

    Didn’t hear about that little bit of correspondence the Iranians sent to Cheney, did you? The one that’s pretty much exactly what we’re asking for now? What else was Cheney holding out for? An offer to host Yom Kippur services next year?

    Note to Lynne Cheney: if Dick ever tells you your hair looks nice, double check to make sure its not on fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franKg
    Israel has Neturei Karta , we have Liberals, I guess every country has wack jobs that are hell bent on supporting their countries enemies , maybe ASS -CAN has found his calling as a member of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard rather than posting year old hate articles
    Go crawl back up your ass from whence you came, tapeworm. We're aware of your preference for Zionist media stool samples with absolutely no truth or facts for support, therefore, no substance. In fact, the amount of truth in their propagandistic obfuscations resemble the amount of brain cells you presently have laboring in your cranium; zero.
    franKg - "Since God was ok with Moses, Joshua and David burning cities to the ground and killing all the civilians I think he would be ok with us splashing a little water on some terrorists."

    Dr poormouth - "Exackly;
    It's not "waterboarding", it's "extraordinary baptism""

    Quote Originally Posted by carlbenator
    As discussed in a previous thread, this IRRATIONAL HATRED for the Jews and their RIGHT to SURVIVE is one of the many PROOFS of a God, AND a Devil.

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    A-CAN


    I think this would be an excellent avitar for you to use
    Originally posted by Americanadian
    Palin: Omit the "i" and you're left with "Pain".

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    wow you sure do love Iran dont ya AmeriC? or is it just anyone who is anti-israel?

    im curious how this Piper guy, who admits Israel has never divulged its nuclear arsenal, knows they have "one of the biggest nuclear arsenals on the planet"? how would he know something like that?
    i'm also curious how Elie Wiesel's "credibility is questionable"?

    oh, its so nice to hear the iranians are against killing and thats why they wouldnt be bulding nukes. meanwhile someone draws a cartoon or some brits supposedly sail into their waters and iranians call for the death sentence...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralTsoGood
    meanwhile someone draws a cartoon or some brits supposedly sail into their waters and iranians call for the death sentence...
    I guess you didn't notice how berserk our own insane christain fundamentalist went when he mistakenly ascertained someone had maligned christainity. And I guess you hadn't noticed that Israel has called today for the assassination of the exiled Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal. They are all the same. One is no better than the other, and the sooner religion is purged from existance, the better.

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    " Assassinating" those who have victimized you, and vowed to keep doing so, is just applied justice or preemption. Either way, good for them.

    This giggling, simpering support for the most maniacal and dangerous world leader is predictable, coming from our America-hating idiots on the left. Business as usual...
    Last edited by pwrone; 05-22-2007 at 01:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UserName
    I guess you didn't notice how berserk our own insane christain fundamentalist went when he mistakenly ascertained someone had maligned christainity. And I guess you hadn't noticed that Israel has called today for the assassination of the exiled Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal. They are all the same. One is no better than the other, and the sooner religion is purged from existance, the better.
    a cartoon artist is not the same as a man who plans terrorist attacks on innocent civilians. one is "better" than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    " Assassinating" those who have victimized you, and vowed to keep doing so, is just applied justice or preemption. Either way, good for them.

    This giggling, simpering support for the most maniacal and dangerous world leader is predictable, coming from our America-hating idiots on the left. Business as usual...

    This is a "conservative" folks. Someone who not only condones assassination, he also applauds those who threaten assassination. Could someone who calls himself "American" be a willing participant to terrorism? Who else but a raving idiot could praise such atrocious behavior?

    "Assassination is prohibited at Executive Order 12333 of the United States (December 4 1981) which stipulates, at Part 2, paragraph 2.11: "No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination." Prohibition of assassination is also the "supreme law of the land" because of its prior criminalization under international law. As we shall now see, international law is included in the law of the United States."

    I know conservative scum have never let the law stand in their way, and have actually gone out of their way to destroy many of our laws, but even a moron like pwrone can't believe assassination is a "good" thing.

    Assassination:
    Assassination is the murder of a political figure or another important individual. An added distinction between assassination and other forms of killing is that an assassin usually has an ideological or political motivation, though many assassins (especially those who are not part of an organized movement) also show elements of insanity".

    But perhaps if we look at where the word "assassin" came from, we can discover why these conservative extremists are so dangerous to America. Some dullards have even condoned it as a military operation.... Ida Amin did.

    "The term 'Assassin' is thought to be derived from its connections to the Hashshashin, a militant religious sect of Ismaili Muslims, thought to be active in the Middle East in the 8th to 14th centuries. This mystic secret society killed members of the Abbasid elite for political or religious reasons".

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