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    Re: Freedom Cult USA

    This is obviously as scammy as it gets... $5700 for $100,000? Give me a break. Anyone that falls for that is kind of asking for it no offense..
    Get paid to chat! :) Diskussable

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    Re: Freedom Cult USA

    Quote Originally Posted by pr0xx1d View Post
    This is obviously as scammy as it gets... $5700 for $100,000? Give me a break. Anyone that falls for that is kind of asking for it no offense..

    The $100,000 is just a "booster". That's on top of the $100,000-$375,000 per process they've been promising for 9 years. Yes it is quite obviously an overinflated scam for idiots.

    One marvels at the number of morons who mail this guy thousands of dollars after he tells them fairy tales about "galactics", magical world monetary changes, utopian futures and public officials ("baddies") being replaced by holograms and placed in our society.

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    Re: Freedom Cult USA

    This is so crazy, they had their deadline for 1/13/2014, but their countdown says 9 more hours. That's weird because yesterday I checked and I vaguely recall it saying 15 hours. There's no doubt they're probably going to just put up a new deadline and a new countdown, as they always do.

    Seriously, HAS ANYONE HERE (former FCUSA members) filed a complaint?
    @Holio, have you filed a complaint? I'd probably file one, but I was never a member.
    http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx

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    Re: Freedom Cult USA

    Quote Originally Posted by truthinquirer View Post
    This is so crazy, they had their deadline for 1/13/2014, but their countdown says 9 more hours. That's weird because yesterday I checked and I vaguely recall it saying 15 hours. There's no doubt they're probably going to just put up a new deadline and a new countdown, as they always do.

    Seriously, HAS ANYONE HERE (former FCUSA members) filed a complaint?
    @Holio, have you filed a complaint? I'd probably file one, but I was never a member.
    http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx

    I'm not a member. I just know someone who was screwed over. I would if I was.

    I'm absolutely flabergasted that this is still going on two years after I started following it. You hear Tom on these calls making these outlandish threats that he's going to have law enforcement and judges brought up to the World Court and statements on the website like:

    Make NO references to GSA, FCUSA, FFUSA or Freedom Club USA on your check: These errors will disqualify you and your funds will be returned.

    and

    PROSPERITY SOLUTIONS FOR ALL
    • Our AR program provides substantial cash awards for consumers ($100,000 - $250,000+/claim).
    • The consumer enjoys a healthy cash balance to bank where they choose



    Isn't it obvious to anyone in law enforcement or the fraud division of the FBI that this is a giant scam?

    Nope, time marches on. More idiots join.

    There's even a section on the FBI site about this type of scam. And they do NOTHING.

    Redemption / Strawman / Bond Fraud

    Proponents of this scheme claim that the U.S. government or the Treasury Department control bank accounts—often referred to as “U.S. Treasury Direct Accounts”—for all U.S. citizens that can be accessed by submitting paperwork with state and federal authorities. Individuals promoting this scam frequently cite various discredited legal theories and may refer to the scheme as “Redemption,” “Strawman,” or “Acceptance for Value.” Trainers and websites will often charge large fees for “kits” that teach individuals how to perpetrate this scheme. They will often imply that others have had great success in discharging debt and purchasing merchandise such as cars and homes. Failures to implement the scheme successfully are attributed to individuals not following instructions in a specific order or not filing paperwork at correct times.

    This scheme predominately uses fraudulent financial documents that appear to be legitimate. These documents are frequently referred to as “bills of exchange,” “promissory bonds,” “indemnity bonds,” “offset bonds,” “sight drafts,” or “comptrollers warrants.” In addition, other official documents are used outside of their intended purpose, like IRS forms 1099, 1099-OID, and 8300. This scheme frequently intermingles legal and pseudo legal terminology in order to appear lawful. Notaries may be used in an attempt to make the fraud appear legitimate. Often, victims of the scheme are instructed to address their paperwork to the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury.

    Tips for Avoiding Redemption/Strawman/Bond Fraud:

    Be wary of individuals or groups selling kits that they claim will inform you on to access secret bank accounts.
    Be wary of individuals or groups proclaiming that paying federal and/or state income tax is not necessary.
    Do not believe that the U.S. Treasury controls bank accounts for all citizens.
    Be skeptical of individuals advocating that speeding tickets, summons, bills, tax notifications, or similar documents can be resolved by writing “acceptance for value” on them.
    If you know of anyone advocating the use of property liens to coerce acceptance of this scheme, contact your local FBI office.

    For more information:
    - Sovereign Citizen Movement
    - Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration: Fact Sheet on Sovereign Citizen Movement

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    Here's the latest Crazy News from Tom. Seems like the club's going even more off the deep end. A message from Lady Portia, The Creator (koo koo) followed by Tom's usual money grab,. FCUSA Update 1-20-14 FCUSA Readers, Who can say better than Prime Creator what to look forward to beginning with the First Day of the New Golden Age... read on. "I am Creator. I have asked Lady Portia to take this message to give to the world. It is my great pleasure to make an important announcement. All important changes in the Universe require a special event to anchor them, to serve as the official beginning or end of an era. I wish to declare that today, Monday, January 20, 2014 of the current Gregorian Earth Calendar will henceforth be known as the First Day of The New Golden Age. It will usher in the beginning of new prosperity, peace, mutual cooperation and joy throughout all the Kingdoms of the Earth and beyond. It is a time of change, a time of awakenings. You will be learning things you could not have even imagined a day or a week ago. You are all being raised up into the Light, given glimpses, a bit here, a hint there, of what you will be learning when you walk across the imaginary boundary which has held you in your 3 dimensional world. You will emerge at the culmination of your meditations into the higher dimensions. These messages have brought you along, increasing the challenge you were given, to open your hearts and your minds to feel your way toward the Truth of One. Often you were puzzled or frustrated or confused. The information you have been given seemed contradictory, and therefore not true. You were forced to either choose from amongst two or three "Truths" or open your minds to the possibility that there might be a whole other possibility - a greater Truth which might lead to further levels of unknown regions of the Heart. It will come as a great surprise to you that We in the higher dimensions sometimes tell you half-truths. We do not lie to you; there would be no point in that. We are not untruthful in our dealings, ever. However, there are frequent occasions in which we can see that you are not at all ready for the whole truth - it would make you angry and turn you away, or it might pass right on by your understanding because you didn't have the background to understand it. This is why we have led you, day by day, month by month, toward greater knowledge and wisdom. It is not a simple endeavor, to lead an entire civilization which has been immersed in a rigid, intellectualized society of argumentative, quarreling and combative individuals, to bring all of them together toward a true meeting of the minds - which can only be accomplished by opening their hearts. Yes, you have all been affected by the thousands of years of mind-over-heart and mind-over-matter arguments. The last 600 years or so have been the worst, especially since Descartes proclaimed the mind superior to human emotion. Of course, there is nothing wrong with using the scientific method to identify trends and small facts about the things you wish to study. In some ways, it has moved you ahead, especially where some of your technologies are concerned, but it has done more to stifle originality than to expand it. The most brilliant scientists do their best work during their sleep hours, when they collaborate with highly advanced galactic societies who share their findings with those who are open to it. Of course, this has sometimes ended very badly, as in the premature development of nuclear fission, which was then immediately used to develop monstrously uncontrollable weapons and equally dangerous domestic technologies. The use of nuclear power to generate electricity is a ridiculously reckless and inefficient method. Were it not for the enormous profits it has generated for a few investors, at the cost of the health of your entire planet, it would not have even been given a second glance. It is only thanks to the enormous subsidies of numerous governments that the plants have even been built. We are preparing to see all these unnecessarily dangerous methods completely replaced with the simple, efficient and clean technologies which will be given to you by your galactic Brothers and Sisters. The technologies you will be given are far superior to anything currently in development. You will be amazed at the efficiency and ease with which all your homes, office buildings, civic buildings and even stadiums can be cooled, heated and softly lit, without a single drop of fossil fuels, and without producing a single carbon atom's worth of pollution. This is just a small example of the momentous changes that will take place, to literally rescue and reward all the wonderful beings who reside on Gaia, your Mother Earth as you know her. You, Beloved Earth Ones, have hewn to the path of Ascension, carrying the Light and the message of Love. It is you who have created this glorious moment - you who have lifted your eyes to the Heavens in Faith. You have envisioned the New World. It is thus of your making. We have taught you that your thoughts, combined with the energy of your hearts, create Reality. You have learned to manifest those thoughts with great clarity. When you focus on the vision of your hearts, powered by your great will, you are able to make wonderful things happen. This is what you have done. Together, you have focused on Abundance. You have envisioned new housing for those who have lived in poverty, clean water for the people of the Earth who need it, food for the hungry, schools and loving teachers for the children who are starving for real knowledge, healing for the sick, and above all, peace on Earth. So it shall be. It is an auspicious time on Earth. It is the first day of the zodiac sign of Aquarius, the celebration of Martin Luther King Day in the United States, and as the Chinese New Year approaches, the Year of the Horse becomes the new symbol - that of strength, exuberance and compassion. It will be a year of enormous spiritual growth, expansion and Ascension for the entire planet. Everyone on the planet - absolutely everyone - will experience the good fortune which will now fill all cups to overflowing. Joy will replace fear as the predominant emotion. Random acts of kindness will become the norm rather than newsworthy exceptions. Open your hearts, Beloved Ones. There are no more questions that need to be answered about when and how these changes will take place. They have already begun. You have been blessed with a program of prosperity that will be completely inexplicable to the rational thinkers, the practical managers and the unbelievers. We are here, your Guides and Ascended Masters, and we are bringing to Planet Earth the most powerful force in the Universe: Love. Awaken to the Truth that you will never again be made to suffer by forces outside your control. Now, as you read this, humane political and social systems are being instituted across the globe. We now await the proper timing for the further announcements to be made, which you have called Disclosure - the revelation that you are not alone in the Universe, and that your neighbors are friendly - once all the cabal and its minions have been subdued and/or dispersed. What follows will be spectacular, astonishing even for those of you who have followed these messages for years. Your minds will experience such information overload that only those with open hearts will be able to grasp the Truth of what is happening, for so many of the things you thought you knew were deliberately distorted. All the news that is coming is good news. The revelations will make your hearts sing. I am overjoyed to be able to tell you this, at long last. Look around you. The colors are brighter, people's faces are younger, and all worry and care are evaporating like the morning dew. Enjoy your blessings, My Beloved Children. Your New Day is dawning today. I love you without end. I am your Creator." Via Kathryn E. May, January 19, 2014, 11:30 PM GMT http://www.whoneedslight.net/ ********************** Now that is a tough act to follow! Some thought it was just a fantasy of dreamers, other thought it would never come, some gave up and yet our FCUSA members and millions worldwide did not. My congratulations to those who have spread the word and to those just now awakening. The time for transition and reclamation of our planet is at hand. Yes, your freedom and funds will shortly follow along with NESARA, new governance and your ascension. The last of the cabal will soon be gone. AR ORDERS & PAYMENT Remember, the first ARs paid are the first to fund. Expect a very heavy onslaught of orders that could backlog us a bit, so getting to yours may take awhile. Hint: beat the rush and get at least one of your orders paid ASAP to assure early funding. GSA We understand the first of the GSA claims are being processed by the world court meaning the "defendants" are being notified. PREFERRED LUXURY PACKAGE (PLP) Congratulations to the many who have opted into the Victory Reception and room upgrade. Your early payment will assure your position. You can order here. For your highest and best, Your FCUSA Team

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    Re: Freedom Club USA

    The only so called light and ascension I see from Tom and his goons are more demons of greed flying up their bums and it's getting to their head, making them blabber more blasphemous delusional nonsense.

    This so called coming "new age" is nothing more than kooks stroking Lucifer's Ego and visa versa.
    I'll tell you what new age ascension is, it's flipping a finger at authority, but without having authority..... it's utterly stupid and it's selfish pride at its best.

    [Deletes a rant about Jesus Christ pooping on Lucifer's parade]
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    Yeah whatever about the Jesus stuff. Last night in the public call Tom said that Martin Luther King, Barack Obama and Nelson Mandela all occupied the same soul simultaneously. He stated it as fact like it was something he knew from doing research. I sometimes wonder why a smart logical thinking financial expert or businessman doesn't call up and rip this fake guru to shreds.

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    Re: Freedom Cult USA

    On the Freedom Cult USA Intro Call Monday Jan 20th, 2014; more insanity, mislead, misinformed truths from Tom & Friends. Tom speaks of the monetary system upgrade already installed on all banking system computers, all that needs to happen is to flip the switch. The World Court is in every country on Earth (Gaia) and has arrested hundreds of thousands of cabal members. Galactic Federation of Light (which exists, Tom is twisting the truth), will activate a force to disable all destructive devices: guns, cannons, bombs, missiles, and even nuclear warheads. Reiterated talk about a Victory Celebration post-funding, which Tom Lawler says is close since FCUSA has perfected the propitiatory software which no-one has seen source code, screenshots, or beta-release for. If these events Tom & Friends speak of were happening/have happened this info would be shared from internet sources like International Starseed Network, United Starseed, or the magnitude of ascension, universal truth, shaman blogs, starseed, new age blogs & websites online. All of this talk is the latest spiel for the cult followers of Freedom "Club" USA.

    Callers on the second part are starting to question Tom & Friends on their claims. Notable Caller #1 references a Dinar guru in which 50,000 people have had Dinar payouts, and asks why back in December when Tom Lawler spoke of the supposed Dinar revaluation on Dec 1st, why funding hasn’t begun yet. The caller also brings up how 99.999% of the cabal hasn’t been rounded up like Tom spoke of. Tom just shrugged it off.

    Notable Caller #2 asks about the details of the global reset, and Tom can’t answer it since his take on the planetary ascension is misinformed. Tom & Friends speak of ascension away from money, which we are in Earth-day 3 of the higher state. Yet according to Tom this ascension will fund members with money, monetary figures no longer needed in a higher state reality.


    Enough of these writings. Tom Lawler himself said in the Jan 20th call that all that was taken in greed will be returned. If that is true all members of Freedom "Club" USA will get their funding returned from Tom Lawler, Friends & Associates paid into the AR, GSA processes and Bonus Boosters in some tangible form.
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    "Imminent funding" hasn't happened yet? Really? I'm shocked, utterly shocked I tell you. Absolutely NOTHING that has spewed from the Freedomclub or its brain dead members has come true. No one, except for the scam runners have seen any kind of financial return ever but cretins and half wits will continue to send money and proclaim that, "funding is just hours away!" Hey Tom, how's the collapse of the financial system coming along? What about the rounding up of the cabal? I also shouldn't forget about those pesky holograms. LOL, this would make a totally cheesy B-movie.
    In the old thread I made an offer to FCUSAROCKS that if he, or anyone he recruited, was going to send money to Freedomclub that they should send it to me instead. I would keep half, return half to them so that they'd at least not feel 100% ripped off, and I would give them a nice swift kick to the nuts. Maybe more if they asked for it. I'm opening up this offer to all potential members. Please save half your money and every time you think about turning off your BS meter or believing in fairy tales think about the foot stomping I gave to your nether regions.

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    Re: Freedom Club USA

    Tom is an expert con-artist, he uses events in the news to hook and reel people into his money-making narcissistic delusions.

    For example, he's pointed this out on the freedom club usa website:
    http://www.lex18.com/news/two-jackso...ials-arrested/

    But what does this have to do with Tom? NOTHING!
    Tom is only making money off gullible curious people.

    One thing is for sure, U.S. President Barack Obama will meet with Pope Francis on March 27 at the Vatican to emphasize the need for global wealth redistribution.
    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-visit-po...134635909.html

    Now this sounds a very similar to the crazy voices coming from another kook named Benjamin Creme.

    Spiritualism, the vatican, and the apostate "Christian nation" are uniting...

    ....what next? Crazy laws passed to implement their "new system", but then ultimate failure.

    The bible foretells that these things should come to pass.
    Beware of false prophets who say "peace and safety!".
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    Re: Freedom Club USA

    Check this out folks

    Early Bronze was closing on July 30, 2012, almost 2 years ago. And the final steps of funding was announced. Does anyone need any further proof of the fact this is a premeditated and deliberate scam?

    July 2012
    We will end Early Bronze on July 30, 2012 at midnight or sooner

    January 2014
    We are doing our best to create the greatest opportunities for our members to benefit during these last days of Early Bronze.


    THIS has gone on long enough!

    Tom Lawler Shut down your SCAM



















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    Re: Freedom Cult USA

    Thank you Holio for reposting those images from the deleted Freedom Cult USA thred. Tom Lawler, Friends & Associates sure have been looked into by investigators who saw the AR order page with the legal checkbox “I understand that this is a "BEST EFFORTS" deal”. Which meant to investigators everbody who was sucked in to Freedom Cult USA were willing participants. So investigators left Freedom Cult USA alone. Are there any more images from the past deleted thread that anybody can repost?
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    I have more. I'll post them later.

    I post them because they wind up in the Google image section when you search for Freedom Club USA on Google.

    I like how when you search for Freedom Club USA on the web, the first page that comes up has about 5 links saying it's a scam. Yet morons seem to still be joining. Ah the stupidity of the average American.

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    Hey gang,

    It has been awhile since I looked in on the FCUSA scam club USA and gee, still no funding and a lot of "specials" to sucker people into parting with their cash. Layaway? Really?? Can Tom even manage coherent sentences on calls anymore?

    That poor soul FCUSA Rocks would have kissed a lot of cows by now if he had taken me up on my bet 2 years ago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF_FCUSA View Post
    Hey gang,

    It has been awhile since I looked in on the FCUSA scam club USA and gee, still no funding and a lot of "specials" to sucker people into parting with their cash. Layaway? Really?? Can Tom even manage coherent sentences on calls anymore?

    That poor soul FCUSA Rocks would have kissed a lot of cows by now if he had taken me up on my bet 2 years ago!

    The calls have devolved into the Art Bell show (if anyone remembers that). Nothing but sci fi and fake religious mumbo jumbo.

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    Re: Freedom Cult USA

    FCUSA ROCKS watching last years Victory Celebration fake countdown:
    Quote Originally Posted by FCUSA ROCKS thoughts
    I can't wait to pack my bags for the FCUSA victory trip. I hope the victory celebration is at an all-inclusive resort, and I leave a millionaire and can move out of my parents basement! Because Freedom Club USA ROCKS!!!
    FCUSA ROCKS thoughts watching the First Bonus Boosters Fake Countdown sometime during the month of November 2013:

    Quote Originally Posted by FCUSA ROCKS thoughts
    I can buy a new modern computer or I can buy a bonus booster for my AR with next months Welfare. I will buy the bonus booster for my AR since FCUSA's funding soon! Now that rocks! After funding I will move out of my parents basement into a beach house with a room for a computer den! You naysayers will be so sorry after Freedom Club funds and you're still at your desk, and I am on the beach steps away from my abode!
    Has the person who was posting as FCUSA ROCKS realized he/she was part of a cult, and realized he/she was scammed? Is that why FCUSA ROCKS isn't trying to convince anyone on Tom & Friends Lies? If FCUSA ROCKS still a believer in Freedom Cult USA, why haven't we heard in the past year from the poster behind FCUSA ROCKS?
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