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    The real Lier in the CIA Leak Case.

    Libby may be a convicted felon, but that doesn't make Joe Wilson a hero
    After a jury found Lewis Libby guilty today of perjury and obstruction counts relating to his role in the outing of CIA official Valerie Plame, Plame and her husband put out a statement that included this passage:

    Melanie Sloan, CREW's executive director and counsel to the Wilsons stated, "The civil case may provide the American public with its only opportunity to hear directly from Vice President Cheney, Mr. Libby, Mr. Rove and Mr. Armitage about what really took place behind the scenes after Joe Wilson exposed the truth about the administration's justification for the Iraq war."

    What hooey. The bipartisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concluded that far from being a hero, Wilson was consistently dishonest and misleading, as this account of its findings documents:

    [A]lmost every public pronouncement of Joe Wilson's from the spring of 2003 forward is either an exaggeration or a falsehood or both. The essence of his tale was that he had selflessly gone to Niger and personally debunked reports that Iraq was trying to acquire uranium there to reconstitute its nuclear program. But his account didn't bear up under close scrutiny.

    I. Wilson denied that his Feb. 2002 mission to Niger to investigate reports of an Iraqi uranium deal was suggested by his wife, who worked in the CIA's counterproliferation division. In fact, according to the bipartisan findings of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Wilson's wife "offered up his name" at a staff meeting, then wrote a memo to her division's deputy chief saying her husband was the best man for the job.

    II. Wilson insisted both that he had debunked reports of Iraqi interest in Niger's uranium and that Vice President Cheney, whose interest in the subject reputedly prompted Wilson's trip, had to have been informed of this. The Intelligence Committee found otherwise when it questioned Wilson under oath:

    On at least two occasions [Wilson] admitted that he had no direct
    knowledge to support some of his claims.... For example, when asked
    how he "knew" that the Intelligence Community had rejected the
    possibility of a Niger-Iraq uranium deal, as he wrote in his book,
    [Wilson] told Committee staff that his assertion may have involved "a
    little literary flair."

    III. In the spring of 2003, after a purported "memorandum of agreement" between Iraq and Niger was shown to be a forgery, Wilson began to tell reporters, on background, that he'd known the documents were forgeries all along. But the Senate Intelligence Committee found that the CIA (and Wilson) had been unaware of the documents until eight months after his trip. Moreover, it found that "no one believed" Wilson's trip "added a great deal of new information to the Iraq-Niger uranium story." It found that "for most analysts, the former ambassador's report lent more credibility, not less, to the reported Niger-Iraq uranium deal."

    I don't blame administration critics for crowing over Libby's trial at all. But, please, let's not make Joseph Wilson into a saint.

    Also if you remember right Joe Wilson outted his own wife 3 months before Armatege did the final deed. Yes his wife was not a covert Operative in the CIA and didnt qualify to be under the protection of the law, yet there was still a two year investigation or shall I say (Witch hunt).

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    Re: The real Lier in the CIA Leak Case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dollander
    Libby may be a convicted felon, but that doesn't make Joe Wilson a hero
    After a jury found Lewis Libby guilty today of perjury and obstruction counts relating to his role in the outing of CIA official Valerie Plame, Plame and her husband put out a statement that included this passage:

    Melanie Sloan, CREW's executive director and counsel to the Wilsons stated, "The civil case may provide the American public with its only opportunity to hear directly from Vice President Cheney, Mr. Libby, Mr. Rove and Mr. Armitage about what really took place behind the scenes after Joe Wilson exposed the truth about the administration's justification for the Iraq war."

    What hooey. The bipartisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concluded that far from being a hero, Wilson was consistently dishonest and misleading, as this account of its findings documents:

    [A]lmost every public pronouncement of Joe Wilson's from the spring of 2003 forward is either an exaggeration or a falsehood or both. The essence of his tale was that he had selflessly gone to Niger and personally debunked reports that Iraq was trying to acquire uranium there to reconstitute its nuclear program. But his account didn't bear up under close scrutiny.

    I. Wilson denied that his Feb. 2002 mission to Niger to investigate reports of an Iraqi uranium deal was suggested by his wife, who worked in the CIA's counterproliferation division. In fact, according to the bipartisan findings of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Wilson's wife "offered up his name" at a staff meeting, then wrote a memo to her division's deputy chief saying her husband was the best man for the job.

    II. Wilson insisted both that he had debunked reports of Iraqi interest in Niger's uranium and that Vice President Cheney, whose interest in the subject reputedly prompted Wilson's trip, had to have been informed of this. The Intelligence Committee found otherwise when it questioned Wilson under oath:

    On at least two occasions [Wilson] admitted that he had no direct
    knowledge to support some of his claims.... For example, when asked
    how he "knew" that the Intelligence Community had rejected the
    possibility of a Niger-Iraq uranium deal, as he wrote in his book,
    [Wilson] told Committee staff that his assertion may have involved "a
    little literary flair."

    III. In the spring of 2003, after a purported "memorandum of agreement" between Iraq and Niger was shown to be a forgery, Wilson began to tell reporters, on background, that he'd known the documents were forgeries all along. But the Senate Intelligence Committee found that the CIA (and Wilson) had been unaware of the documents until eight months after his trip. Moreover, it found that "no one believed" Wilson's trip "added a great deal of new information to the Iraq-Niger uranium story." It found that "for most analysts, the former ambassador's report lent more credibility, not less, to the reported Niger-Iraq uranium deal."

    I don't blame administration critics for crowing over Libby's trial at all. But, please, let's not make Joseph Wilson into a saint.

    Also if you remember right Joe Wilson outted his own wife 3 months before Armatege did the final deed. Yes his wife was not a covert Operative in the CIA and didnt qualify to be under the protection of the law, yet there was still a two year investigation or shall I say (Witch hunt).

    LOL...Nice little cut and paste job. But it's customary to, at least, provide some attribution for this crap.
    If Plame weren't covert, then why did Prosecutor Fitzgerald refer to her as a "covert CIA operative"?
    Do you know something he doesn't...like what a "lier" is?
    Last edited by dchristie; 03-07-2007 at 11:09 PM.

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    Re: The real Lier in the CIA Leak Case.

    But within the C.I.A., the exposure of Ms. Plame is now considered an even greater instance of treachery. Ms. Plame, a specialist in non-conventional weapons who worked overseas, had "nonofficial cover", and was what in C.I.A. parlance is called a NOC, the most difficult kind of false identity for the agency to create. While most undercover agency officers disguise their real profession by pretending to be American embassy diplomats or other United States government employees, Ms. Plame passed herself off as a private energy expert. Intelligence experts said that NOCs have especially dangerous jobs.

    from wikipedia.

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    Re: The real Lier in the CIA Leak Case.

    Then Why was there no charges brought out against those that Leaked the identity?

    If there was a Law broken please show me where there are people convicted or accused and on trial for it? Obviously the lady was not covert and was not outted in anyway or there would have been a trial on that fact. Libby trial was not a trial on the Leaking of the Agent it was a trial about a statment Libby provided during the investigation.

    No charges brought out no law broken no wrong doing done. Joe Wilson is the King of Lies Kool Aide man and you guys on the left just drink it up.

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    Re: The real Lier in the CIA Leak Case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dollander
    Libby may be a convicted felon, but that doesn't make Joe Wilson a hero
    After a jury found Lewis Libby guilty today of perjury and obstruction counts relating to his role in the outing of CIA official Valerie Plame, Plame and her husband put out a statement that included this passage:

    Melanie Sloan, CREW's executive director and counsel to the Wilsons stated, "The civil case may provide the American public with its only opportunity to hear directly from Vice President Cheney, Mr. Libby, Mr. Rove and Mr. Armitage about what really took place behind the scenes after Joe Wilson exposed the truth about the administration's justification for the Iraq war."

    What hooey. The bipartisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concluded that far from being a hero, Wilson was consistently dishonest and misleading, as this account of its findings documents:

    [A]lmost every public pronouncement of Joe Wilson's from the spring of 2003 forward is either an exaggeration or a falsehood or both. The essence of his tale was that he had selflessly gone to Niger and personally debunked reports that Iraq was trying to acquire uranium there to reconstitute its nuclear program. But his account didn't bear up under close scrutiny.

    I. Wilson denied that his Feb. 2002 mission to Niger to investigate reports of an Iraqi uranium deal was suggested by his wife, who worked in the CIA's counterproliferation division. In fact, according to the bipartisan findings of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Wilson's wife "offered up his name" at a staff meeting, then wrote a memo to her division's deputy chief saying her husband was the best man for the job.

    II. Wilson insisted both that he had debunked reports of Iraqi interest in Niger's uranium and that Vice President Cheney, whose interest in the subject reputedly prompted Wilson's trip, had to have been informed of this. The Intelligence Committee found otherwise when it questioned Wilson under oath:

    On at least two occasions [Wilson] admitted that he had no direct
    knowledge to support some of his claims.... For example, when asked
    how he "knew" that the Intelligence Community had rejected the
    possibility of a Niger-Iraq uranium deal, as he wrote in his book,
    [Wilson] told Committee staff that his assertion may have involved "a
    little literary flair."

    III. In the spring of 2003, after a purported "memorandum of agreement" between Iraq and Niger was shown to be a forgery, Wilson began to tell reporters, on background, that he'd known the documents were forgeries all along. But the Senate Intelligence Committee found that the CIA (and Wilson) had been unaware of the documents until eight months after his trip. Moreover, it found that "no one believed" Wilson's trip "added a great deal of new information to the Iraq-Niger uranium story." It found that "for most analysts, the former ambassador's report lent more credibility, not less, to the reported Niger-Iraq uranium deal."

    I don't blame administration critics for crowing over Libby's trial at all. But, please, let's not make Joseph Wilson into a saint.

    Also if you remember right Joe Wilson outted his own wife 3 months before Armatege did the final deed. Yes his wife was not a covert Operative in the CIA and didnt qualify to be under the protection of the law, yet there was still a two year investigation or shall I say (Witch hunt).
    Found on News Hound for all you Kool Aide Drinkers out there.

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