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    Re: What if Christiains Got it Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    like i said, who's got time for friends that DO NOT fit your lifestyle/ECONOMICS!? like IAW said!? i will also throw in my question about WHAT the american SELF is and why it's lost it's commonality!? i think what has replaced it is the machine of the economic DOWNLINE!? life is 1 big MLM anymore, your reference to the internet is a good example of that!? and i did use the word TIME and you could say the COST of living is what has STOLEN our FREE time for SOCIALIZING!? this fits in with the CONSUMERISM model of CAPITALISM!? EASY MONEY as long as a FUNDING source is bottomless thru GOV or CREDIT!? and now we see in POLITICS there is this supposedly GOOD idea to try and STOP this SPEEDING TRAIN, by removing the TRACKS!? ::judges::crazy1::
    That was the track I was on, ha. ha. In advanced societies, we have lost our way, or we have adopted ways outside our communities. Washington seems to want us to become part of their community. Several years when I visited Washington I was impressed with our everything, even culture has been nationalized. We visited the Smithsonian museums and found everything anyone would want to know about culture, history, and national heritage. Can't find that back home.

    With the internet, TV, cell phones, laptops, etc. we are duly entertained, but isolated from personal contacts. My wife and I have friends to fill in missing links, but still it is not like it once was when neighbors sat on their front porches talking.

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    Re: What if Christiains Got it Wrong?

    Maybe Christians did get it wrong?

    Compelling evidence points at the Norse religion getting it more right:



    So... who was right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    That was the track I was on, ha. ha. In advanced societies, we have lost our way, or we have adopted ways outside our communities. Washington seems to want us to become part of their community. Several years when I visited Washington I was impressed with our everything, even culture has been nationalized. We visited the Smithsonian museums and found everything anyone would want to know about culture, history, and national heritage. Can't find that back home.

    With the internet, TV, cell phones, laptops, etc. we are duly entertained, but isolated from personal contacts. My wife and I have friends to fill in missing links, but still it is not like it once was when neighbors sat on their front porches talking.
    so maybe it's this nationalized culture that is causing conflict on the small local scene!? what IS the nationalized culture DEFINITION anyway!? is it COMPATIBLE with SELF interest!? that seems to be the catch!? there is no unified IDEAL self interest to be collectively inspired by progressive retoric!? : :crazy1: :spin2:
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    so maybe it's this nationalized culture that is causing conflict on the small local scene!? what IS the nationalized culture DEFINITION anyway!? is it COMPATIBLE with SELF interest!? that seems to be the catch!? there is no unified IDEAL self interest to be collectively inspired by progressive retoric!? : :crazy1: :spin2:
    Where is it going? Do we have to belong to a national party to experience community? After Obama Care kicks in we'll have big brother to check our every move and take care of us. And how can you get a good job and have a really good pension in the private sector. Statistics show fewer people leaving government jobs than private sector jobs.

    In my neighborhood, there are mostly government workers. On average, they have shorter work weeks, more time off, longer vacations, and higher salaries than private sector workers. Capitalism may be a relic of the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Where is it going? Do we have to belong to a national party to experience community? After Obama Care kicks in we'll have big brother to check our every move and take care of us. And how can you get a good job and have a really good pension in the private sector. Statistics show fewer people leaving government jobs than private sector jobs.

    In my neighborhood, there are mostly government workers. On average, they have shorter work weeks, more time off, longer vacations, and higher salaries than private sector workers. Capitalism may be a relic of the past.
    maybe not a PARTY but an IDEAL of some kind!? what exactly IS the difference between the 2 major partys!? i celebrates success in excellence and it's rewards while the other represents the lessfortunate/leftbehinds/leftovers/leftouts!?:1crysad: ::freak3::
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    maybe not a PARTY but an IDEAL of some kind!? what exactly IS the difference between the 2 major partys!? i celebrates success in excellence and it's rewards while the other represents the lessfortunate/leftbehinds/leftovers/leftouts!?:1crysad: ::freak3::
    Maybe we need a middle road party, one that favors no government interference, but has some kind of community to help those who can't help themselves. Well, then we're left with some kind of government. It seems there is no best way, but what we have doesn't work. I think in every way possible we need to downsize the federal government and let the states assume responsibility. Government should be as close as possible to people.

    Work should be related to welfare, you don't get food stamps or welfare checks unless you do X amount of work. They could work on communities crumbling infrastructure. Work is not only good for people it maintains communities. Make it all local, no work unless it is for a community work project, a local road or bridge. Allow relatives to work together, allow good workers to help weak and needy people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Maybe we need a middle road party, one that favors no government interference, but has some kind of community to help those who can't help themselves. Well, then we're left with some kind of government. It seems there is no best way, but what we have doesn't work. I think in every way possible we need to downsize the federal government and let the states assume responsibility. Government should be as close as possible to people.

    Work should be related to welfare, you don't get food stamps or welfare checks unless you do X amount of work. They could work on communities crumbling infrastructure. Work is not only good for people it maintains communities. Make it all local, no work unless it is for a community work project, a local road or bridge. Allow relatives to work together, allow good workers to help weak and needy people.
    i was struck by the show, undercover BOSS! how many BOSSES eye's were opened you might say because of their SECRET participation in the LOWER realms of their business! now normally this kind of thing would NOT happen! and in the case of say INVESTORS it's even FURTHER removed from the FRONT lines you might say of human development /struggle!? we all would prefer to live in our own versions of disneyland you might say!? it is in MOST cases in my opinion SO SIMPLE to solve human issues on the SPOT/TIMELY as long as there is someone who knows (better) right there for advice guidance/support!? call it PARENTING if you will!? on the other hand you could say parenting is only useful if it is ACCEPTED!? it is possible within our mental choices to reject HELP!? for lack of TRUST is the only reason i can come up with!? you really cant force people to learn, they have to choose it!? if your goal is to make sure they DO learn they have the most likely CHANCE of succeeding!? but this is an INTERACTIVE learning process for ALL not just a teaching session!? i was thinking of INSTITUTIONS of community LEARNING where anyone can become involved in their community without any motive except wanting to join in a friendly constructive environment sans any economic hidden agendas!? the only thing i can come up with that comes close is CHURCH!? but that is not a UNIVERSAL environment! the local PUB comes in second!? which is why i believe a SOCIAL SERVICE organization with constant staffing and volunteers with gov and private funding under 1 roof would best serve the community!? think ACORN!? :chicken: : :rain::king22:
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    i was struck by the show, undercover BOSS! how many BOSSES eye's were opened you might say because of their SECRET participation in the LOWER realms of their business! now normally this kind of thing would NOT happen! and in the case of say INVESTORS it's even FURTHER removed from the FRONT lines you might say of human development /struggle!? we all would prefer to live in our own versions of disneyland you might say!? it is in MOST cases in my opinion SO SIMPLE to solve human issues on the SPOT/TIMELY as long as there is someone who knows (better) right there for advice guidance/support!? call it PARENTING if you will!? on the other hand you could say parenting is only useful if it is ACCEPTED!? it is possible within our mental choices to reject HELP!? for lack of TRUST is the only reason i can come up with!? you really cant force people to learn, they have to choose it!? if your goal is to make sure they DO learn they have the most likely CHANCE of succeeding!? but this is an INTERACTIVE learning process for ALL not just a teaching session!? i was thinking of INSTITUTIONS of community LEARNING where anyone can become involved in their community without any motive except wanting to join in a friendly constructive environment sans any economic hidden agendas!? the only thing i can come up with that comes close is CHURCH!? but that is not a UNIVERSAL environment! the local PUB comes in second!? which is why i believe a SOCIAL SERVICE organization with constant staffing and volunteers with gov and private funding under 1 roof would best serve the community!? think ACORN!? :chicken: : :rain::king22:
    Throughout history there have been attempts to establish utopian societies, all of them have failed. It is a real puzzle. Most of them were based on religious principles. If you read the stories you find that the leaders became corrupt or abusiveness. I suppose that speaks ill of human nature. Failure should not mean giving up, but how do we do it?

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    Re: What if Christiains Got it Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Maybe we need a middle road party, one that favors no government interference, but has some kind of community to help those who can't help themselves. Well, then we're left with some kind of government. It seems there is no best way, but what we have doesn't work. I think in every way possible we need to downsize the federal government and let the states assume responsibility. Government should be as close as possible to people.

    Work should be related to welfare, you don't get food stamps or welfare checks unless you do X amount of work. They could work on communities crumbling infrastructure. Work is not only good for people it maintains communities. Make it all local, no work unless it is for a community work project, a local road or bridge. Allow relatives to work together, allow good workers to help weak and needy people.
    Yes.
    I live in a small community, everyone knows everyone else, we help each other, arent bothered whether youre black pink or blue religion is low key and not in your face, a local politician is helping to form a network of community banks people are generally well educated, lots of kids going to university.
    The USA is broken, and the right wing have a lot to answer for, dividing through lies and intolerance.
    America...stick a fork in its ass and turn it over, its done. : (

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowhawker View Post
    Yes.
    I live in a small community, everyone knows everyone else, we help each other, arent bothered whether youre black pink or blue religion is low key and not in your face, a local politician is helping to form a network of community banks people are generally well educated, lots of kids going to university.
    The USA is broken, and the right wing have a lot to answer for, dividing through lies and intolerance.
    America...stick a fork in its ass and turn it over, its done. : (
    That sounds like a step in the right direction. It would be great if other communities followed your lead. It has to be local, everyone knowing people in need. It doesn't have to be government. It can be people alert to needs of others and then helping. In our town, we do that through churches and some really good people who seem to be there when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    i came up with a 1 liner for the wise and then googled to see if it already was said and somehow found this!?

    Everything that you call the world is nothing but the Self. The Self is not hidden beneath it or behind it in some subtle space or dimension. “What you worship there (self) is what you see here,(world)” the Veda says.
    there is only one knowledge to seek: who am I? And once this knowledge is gained the search for knowledge stops. This is so because the essence of every bit of knowledge is the Self. Without it there is nothing to know, nor anyone to know it. Yes, you can seek relative knowledge to amuse yourself or to solve practical problems but basically this is a superficial pursuit, one that has no permanent effect on you, the Self.

    was it shakespeare that said, KNOW THY SELF!? my question is, how can 1 NOT know 1's SELF!? i think what happens at an early age is 1 is taught to DISLIKE/DISTRUST 1's SELF and life can be crippled/reduced to a crawl!? :rotz::bah:ing1::chicken:
    This is kinda crazy, actually goes with what I get out of reading the bible. The bible goes a step further than Shakespeare though, it not only identifies Self, but identifies God, and all others in the world. When JC said when praying to say, "Our heavenly Father", it identified God as "our heavenly Father", it identifies me, as his child, and the "our" identifies the rest of the people in the world as "children of our heavenly Father" also.

    To know self is good, but to know God and your fellow companions too, is even better. Of course, you can reject this plain teaching of JC, or accept it, which goes along with another Shakespearian saying of "to be, or not to be". Those who accept this teaching of JC are "saved", they know that they are eternal beings just as their heavenly Father and will one day go to the place prepared for them in his house. Those who reject this simple teaching of JC are "lost" (according to the bible), and do not know self, or God, or fellow human beings, whereas most troubles in the world spring from this lack of knowledge. It is the reason Isaiah said that Jerusalem and Judah were so sick and rebellious, because they did not know God or where their home was, and in not knowing who God is, they had no idea who they were (or anyone else for that matter). It's always been an identity problem.

    That why JC said to preach the gospel to every creature, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, the Name of the Son, and the Name of the Holy Ghost. The good news is submersing people in who God is, Our Father, who we are, His Children, what we are, Spirit. Know that and everything else flow seamlessly. You don't have to worry about whether you are in a free country, or communist, or socialist, etc. Society is changing and will change, people will be living as long as trees one day soon, and will be beating the weapons into plows, deserts will produce as the fertile lands do now. Exciting times are coming, sure, there will be struggles, but in all, it is getting better for people here on the earth. Who knows, this climate change may be change for the good, we may be seeing Isaiah's prophecy about the earth bringing forth more abundantly come to pass, as well as people living much longer.

    His prediction about JC being the lowliest of the lowlies, and from there rising to the single greatest hero the earth has ever seen has already come true, as well as all the predictions about how his life would play out here on earth. So I have no doubt we are getting ready to see wonderful things (and of course, a few frightning).

    Sorry this is so long, you might want to skip it.
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    kinda crazy and so long skip it sound like APOLOGISTIC language as it's called!? strange thing about that, it only works on REASONABLE people!? tough guys like tough talk, AKA, the SURE THING!? i mean EMOTIONS that are wishy washy are hard to live with!? UNFORGIVABLE in life or death circumstances, like WAR!? i was watchin some european crime series drama on PBS and a SOLDIER who was seeking revenge could NOT tolerate any WEAKNESS of character that he found with those he encountered on his quest!? to be MANLY was to be DEAD SURE of yourself and your life goals/relationships!? of course he came off as CRAZY but not TOTALLY!? ::judges::spin2::
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