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    If man had not created the boat

    Just a thought I was having a bit earlier, there.

    A long time ago, on earth, there lived many tribes and even castes of homo sapien, many seperated by miles or vast waters, the way we see today.

    However, at some point one of those tribes created a boat that led far enough to another land.

    On arrival, they realised that there were other tribes, and indeed, others that looked quite different to them.

    Had it not been for the creation of the boat, perhaps the thousands of years in which man has fanned out, would never have happened?

    Imagine if people had remained in their very original place of race origin.

    Never came into contact with anyone save for their own race or tribe!

    Were it not for transport, therefore migration, then all of this would not be known to the other.

    Living alone for long enough, is it scientifically plausible that eventually, the differerent races would have grown so far apart genetically, that they would even fail to breed?

    You can get several species of tarantula. yet you cannot mate two unless of the precise same species. This is down to them having grown so far apart from the other, genetically.

    It is the same with many animals in teh kingdom, esp the oldest. They may be the same animal, but bilogically they have become a species unto itself.

    If mankind were as old as the spider is said to be. and we had not made that boat, could humanity have forked off, in this way..?
    "Ethics" is simply a last-gasp attempt by deist conservatives and
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    There is nothing glorious about what our ancestors call history,
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    Re: If man had not created the boat

    Why boats? Why not the billions of other inventions that have led to where we are? Some day we'll be sitting on mars looking at earth saying, "Imagine what it would be like had we not invented rockets.
    The terminally stupid and certifiably insane.

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    Re: If man had not created the boat

    Quote Originally Posted by bogie
    Why boats? Why not the billions of other inventions that have led to where we are? Some day we'll be sitting on mars looking at earth saying, "Imagine what it would be like had we not invented rockets.
    Why not boats?

    (Insert whatever rudamentary mode of transport that you care to..)
    "Ethics" is simply a last-gasp attempt by deist conservatives and
    orthodox dogmatics to keep humanity in ignorance and obscurantism,
    through the well tried fermentation of fear, the fear of science and
    new technologies.
    There is nothing glorious about what our ancestors call history,
    it is simply a succession of mistakes, intolerances and violations.

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    Re: If man had not created the boat

    Had it not been for the creation of the boat, perhaps the thousands of years in which man has fanned out, would never have happened?
    That would have required more than just the absence of boats. Worldwide dispersion of homo sapiens occurred while most of the land was still connected.

    Imagine if people had remained in their very original place of race origin.
    Then Africa would be very crowded.

    Living alone for long enough, is it scientifically plausible that eventually, the differerent races would have grown so far apart genetically, that they would even fail to breed?
    What different races? We were imagining that everyone "had remained in their very original place of race origin". Under the standard definitions of "race", all humans were the same race at one time. It was only after they dispersed that the superficial traits associated with race diverged.

    Living alone for long enough, is it scientifically plausible that eventually, the differerent races would have grown so far apart genetically, that they would even fail to breed?
    It seems plausible to me that if two populations were separated for long enough, those populations could diverge sufficiently that they could not interbreed. "Long enough" seems to be a very long time. Aboriginal Americans crossed the land bridge from asia from 15,000 to 50,000* years ago, but can still interbreed with europeans.




    *That range changes in response to new data seemingly on a yearly basis, so if someone has a better estimate, let me know.

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    Re: If man had not created the boat

    Quote Originally Posted by Parcival
    It seems plausible to me that if two populations were separated for long enough, those populations could diverge sufficiently that they could not interbreed. "Long enough" seems to be a very long time. Aboriginal Americans crossed the land bridge from asia from 15,000 to 50,000* years ago, but can still interbreed with europeans.*That range changes in response to new data seemingly on a yearly basis, so if someone has a better estimate, let me know.

    Thanks.

    I agree.

    I think it is plausbile too.
    "Ethics" is simply a last-gasp attempt by deist conservatives and
    orthodox dogmatics to keep humanity in ignorance and obscurantism,
    through the well tried fermentation of fear, the fear of science and
    new technologies.
    There is nothing glorious about what our ancestors call history,
    it is simply a succession of mistakes, intolerances and violations.

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    Re: If man had not created the boat

    how about breeding and the invention of the wheel!?booty call!?hehe!!....just askin

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    Re: If man had not created the boat

    hey lexx, just think if they did not create the boat, you would not be HERE on this forum lol! hey man just tellin yeah!

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    Re: If man had not created the boat

    But lexx, he would of invented a way to get to this forum, this guy named lexx, is a math techie, he knows how to do more counting than all of us put together and that is SCARY! LOL, hey lexx man, how you been doing? watch out! lexx has a new invention in the works, tell em lexx tell em! just tellin yah!

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    Re: If man had not created the boat

    Just a quick word of warning

    If anybody invents a teleportation device please make sure a fly doesn't get into the capsual.

    You don't want to be vomiting on your food before you eat it.

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