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    Credit Card Machine?? Does anyone know??

    Hi
    I worked for a company that was selling but had to get a new credit card machine. We told the sales man that we were selling and he wrote us a letter saying he would release the machine upon the sale of the business and we would be out of the lease. Know 2 years later the company MBF leasing are after me to pay the rest of the lease. I have read a lot of bad blogs about MBF Leasing all over the net and have finally got them to quit calling may house 8 times a day. My questions are:

    They are in New York and are saying they are filling papers against me in New York. Can they do that? It is only $1,200.

    Is there anything I can do, with out a lawyer? It is not worth it to get a lawyer.

    Any ideas would be helpful. :mad:

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    Re: Credit Card Machine?? Does anyone know??

    If you have the original letter, that releases you from any liability, as well as proof of the sale of the company, I would suggest countersuing the idiots. They need to be put in thier place. It sounds to me like a last ditch effort to collect on an outstanding bill, they are employing scare tactics. Go to your local courthouse, the court clerk's office should be able to supply you with much useful info.
    That is my opinion, based on your posting, hope it helps.

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    Re: Credit Card Machine?? Does anyone know??

    Quote Originally Posted by al_1902
    Hi
    I worked for a company that was selling but had to get a new credit card machine. We told the sales man that we were selling and he wrote us a letter saying he would release the machine upon the sale of the business and we would be out of the lease. Know 2 years later the company MBF leasing are after me to pay the rest of the lease. I have read a lot of bad blogs about MBF Leasing all over the net and have finally got them to quit calling may house 8 times a day. My questions are:

    They are in New York and are saying they are filling papers against me in New York. Can they do that? It is only $1,200.

    Is there anything I can do, with out a lawyer? It is not worth it to get a lawyer.

    Any ideas would be helpful. :mad:
    Did you read the "fine print"? There's a lot buried in this fine print.
    I have always thought that thre is a VERY GOOD reason that these buisness-
    es use fine print. They claim that this way they can save space and paper.
    Well, that could make sense, if they would be specific, succinct in stating
    what they have to say in respect to rules, guidelines, etc. However, as you
    and all others have noted, they are very wordy and along with being wordy
    thre is a great deal of verbal subterfuge, read double speak, vagueness
    and wording that just serves to bore the living $hit out of most anyone.
    That is, I believe, their principal desire. They want to lock people into
    a very one-sided, 'deck-stacked' agreement, in favor of the Credit Card
    Company/s.
    Obviously the wording is 'legal-speak' and so, by it's nature, it is material
    written by lawers. Lawyers have a way of weaving word webs of intrigue,
    deception and centrifuge, read mostly trickery and deception, in order to
    1) establish a solid platform of job insurance for the lawyers that write these
    documents 2) and in doing so, ensure that any non-lawyer type person
    will have NO CHOICE but to hire a brother/sister lawyer compatriot of
    their's to engage in any discussion or solotion to their legalize jargon
    wording web-web trap they have one entagled in 3) the one with the
    most money will win.
    Guess who has the most money, when it is an individual coming up against
    a credit card company?
    Speaking of "Scams". A great deal of business, when one looks at them closely are actually "Scam" operations. Of course the more money, the more
    likely the Scamming. Credit Card companys are some of the Arch Scammers.
    Solution. Accept THEIR PLAYING RULES, which certainly ARE NOT in the
    consumers favor and deal with it. Or, don't use credit cards.
    Last word: did you read the fine print of you contract and what does it
    say in regard to your sucessful satisfaction of the CREDIT CARDS COMPANY
    CONTRACTURAL AGREEMNET, which you signed?
    They probably have you by the short hairs' Pay what they are asking to
    satisfy the thing and get out of any further association. Or, hire a
    Lawyer and fight them. By the time YOU LAWYER gets finished with you
    you will have probably paid he/she more than you would to get out of the
    deal.
    The othere solution? Ignore them and suffer the consequences. But, they
    will hound you in one way or another until they are satisfied.
    Really, if these people could, they would hire heavies and hit men to seek
    out and deal with folks like you. They cannot, leaglly, of course, do this a
    yet. But the Federal Government just stops short of this in what it allows
    these companies to do.

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    Re: Credit Card Machine?? Does anyone know??

    Quote Originally Posted by al_1902
    Hi
    I worked for a company that was selling but had to get a new credit card machine. We told the sales man that we were selling and he wrote us a letter saying he would release the machine upon the sale of the business and we would be out of the lease. Know 2 years later the company MBF leasing are after me to pay the rest of the lease. I have read a lot of bad blogs about MBF Leasing all over the net and have finally got them to quit calling may house 8 times a day. My questions are:

    They are in New York and are saying they are filling papers against me in New York. Can they do that? It is only $1,200.

    Is there anything I can do, with out a lawyer? It is not worth it to get a lawyer.

    Any ideas would be helpful. :mad:
    Did you read the "fine print"? There's a lot buried in this fine print.
    I have always thought that thre is a VERY GOOD reason that these buisness-
    es use fine print. They claim that this way they can save space and paper.
    Well, that could make sense, if they would be specific, succinct in stating
    what they have to say in respect to rules, guidelines, etc. However, as you
    and all others have noted, they are very wordy and along with being wordy
    thre is a great deal of verbal subterfuge, read double speak, vagueness
    and wording that just serves to bore the living $hit out of most anyone.
    That is, I believe, their principal desire. They want to lock people into
    a very one-sided, 'deck-stacked' agreement, in favor of the Credit Card
    Company/s.
    Obviously the wording is 'legal-speak' and so, by it's nature, it is material
    written by lawers. Lawyers have a way of weaving word webs of intrigue,
    deception and centrifuge, read mostly trickery and deception, in order to
    1) establish a solid platform of job insurance for the lawyers that write these
    documents 2) and in doing so, ensure that any non-lawyer type person
    will have NO CHOICE but to hire a brother/sister lawyer compatriot of
    their's to engage in any discussion or solotion to their legalize jargon
    wording web-web trap they have one entagled in 3) the one with the
    most money will win.
    Guess who has the most money, when it is an individual coming up against
    a credit card company?
    Speaking of "Scams". A great deal of business, when one looks at them closely are actually "Scam" operations. Of course the more money, the more
    likely the Scamming. Credit Card companys are some of the Arch Scammers.
    Solution. Accept THEIR PLAYING RULES, which certainly ARE NOT in the
    consumers favor and deal with it. Or, don't use credit cards.
    Last word: did you read the fine print of you contract and what does it
    say in regard to your sucessful satisfaction of the CREDIT CARDS COMPANY
    CONTRACTURAL AGREEMENT, which you signed?
    They probably have you by the short hairs' Pay what they are asking to
    satisfy the thing and get out of any further association. Or, hire a
    Lawyer and fight them. By the time YOU LAWYER gets finished with you
    you will have probably paid he/she more than you would to get out of the
    deal.
    The othere solution? Ignore them and suffer the consequences. But, they
    will hound you in one way or another until they are satisfied.
    Really, if these people could, they would hire heavies and hit men to seek
    out and deal with folks like you. They cannot, leaglly, of course, do this a
    yet. But the Federal Government just stops short of this in what it allows
    these companies to do.

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    Re: Credit Card Machine?? Does anyone know??

    I SWEAR, HEARING THAT NAME MBF LEASING MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL.
    MY CASE IS LIKE YOURS BUT MORE COSTLY. IT WAS ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO, AND THEY CAME AFTER ME FOR ABOUT $8000 FOR CREDIT CARD TERMINAL.
    I RETURNED THE DAMN TERMINAL RIGHT AWAY WHEN I FOUND OUT THE TRUTH, AND THEY TRIED HARD TO GET MONEY FROM ME. AFTER A WHILE, MBF LEASING TRIED TO MAKE A DEAL, OFFERING DISCOUNTS.

    DON'T WORRY. THEY WILL NOT TAKE THE CASE TO COURT.
    THEY WILL GIVE YOU ALL KINDS OF THREATS.... HOW I HAVE TO COME TO NEW YORK FOR TRIALS... COSTLY ATTORNEY FEES, HOW COLD IT IS IN NEW YORK DURING WINTER....
    I TOLD THAT SON OF ... LUIS IS THE NAME, TO GO TO HELL. ACTUALLY, I TOLD HIM THAT HE SHOULD CATCH DISEASE AND DIE. SUCH SCUM... MAKING OTHERS FEEL SO STRESSED AND VICTIMIZED. I REALLY HOPE SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS KIND OF CRIME.


    I WANT TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILS BUT DUE TO LACK TO TIME, I WIL JUST LEAVE SOME INFO I HAVE.

    http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff179465.htm

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    Re: Credit Card Machine?? Does anyone know??

    a couple more things. Something may come of it and some not. Just be sure that you are in good shape on your side of the deal:
    - report them to the Federal Bureau of Investigation for business fraud.

    - report them to the Fair Trade Commission for the same charges.

    - report them to the Internal Revenue Service for suspected Business
    Income Tax Fraud. You don't know this for sure, but any business
    operating as you have suggested is bound to not have an unblemised
    public operation circumstance.

    - report them to the Better Business Bureau, for all the same reasons
    previously listed.

    - report them to your local police department for all the same reasons listed
    and tell the police that you have reported this company to the above
    authorities, but just want them to know that this business is seeking to do
    business in your area.

    - advise this credit card machine company and any repersentatives that calls
    you that you have taken the above listed action. Advise any individual
    that calls you at home, work, whereever, that says they represent this
    company that you have taken the stated action. Ask for their full name
    advise them that you are reporting them -personally, by name, as an
    accomplice to this arrangement.

    See if that doesn't get them to leave you alone.

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    Re: Credit Card Machine?? Does anyone know??

    Here is some information I have put together about MBF Leasing LLC., Northern Leasing Systems Inc., Golden Eagle Leasing, and more. All these companies are the same company using different names. I am awaiting a court date as I am suing MBF Leasing LLC., for multiple reasons including documented harassment and for release of liability from an "unconscionable" lease contract. For more information, check out my website:

    www.mbfleasing.net
    www.mbfleasing.org
    www.mbfleasing.info

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    Re: Credit Card Machine?? Does anyone know??

    Quote Originally Posted by mbfscams View Post
    Here is some information I have put together about MBF Leasing LLC., Northern Leasing Systems Inc., Golden Eagle Leasing, and more. All these companies are the same company using different names. I am awaiting a court date as I am suing MBF Leasing LLC., for multiple reasons including documented harassment and for release of liability from an "unconscionable" lease contract. For more information, check out my website:

    www.mbfleasing.net
    www.mbfleasing.org
    www.mbfleasing.info
    I had to disable the above websites as part of a settlement agreement with MBF Leasing. The new website is:

    www.merchantpointofsale.com

    I will have some new content there soon, with regard to my court appearance that was on 2/22/2008.

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