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    Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Embattled evangelist Ted Haggard admitted on Friday to buying the drug methamphetamine and seeking a massage from a gay male prostitute but denied he had sex with the man or used the stimulant.
    I did call him. I called him to buy some meth
    So drugs are ok but gay sex is bad?

    Just checking before I go out tonight.

    Oh and has anyone every meet a guy thats not gay that would want a massage from aother guy?

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzaa
    So drugs are ok but gay sex is bad?

    Just checking before I go out tonight.

    Oh and has anyone every meet a guy thats not gay that would want a massage from aother guy?
    Actually, for what it is worth, He is the president of the ecumenical movement, which is nothing more than a false christian agenda that will more than likely be the ones rolling out the red carpet for the antichrist, deceiving the world that this group is actually christian which they are not.

    I had warned in a many of my posts about this movement along with the Word of Faith movement which is apostate and counterfeit christian.

    I am glad to see this expose' of the frauds in the christian realm.

    TB

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazzaa
    So drugs are ok but gay sex is bad?

    Just checking before I go out tonight.

    Oh and has anyone every meet a guy thats not gay that would want a massage from aother guy?
    TB spelled it out. If he's ecumenical, then he isn't Evangelical. The dude is a false teacher.

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzaa
    So drugs are ok but gay sex is bad?

    Just checking before I go out tonight.

    Oh and has anyone every meet a guy thats not gay that would want a massage from aother guy?
    This is the counterfeit christianity which I have been saying in many of my threads, and it is a very , very scary thing..

    This guy ted Haggard is a pervert preaching in the pulpit of a most Holy God. How do you think he was exposed?? God himself outed this imposter and antichristian, which is one who poses as one but is anything but, and also demonstrates who the one he serves is ,,which is Satan, who is and does come as a light,but not the light of God,, but as an angel from heaven and will not deceive the world, who do not believe in God, but will and is deceiveing the christians as shown by this man and is 16,000 member and growing church.

    He represents hundreds of denominations in the ecumenical blending of all denominations including mormons which is evident to me,,it is the building up of the entrance and debut of the false christ represented by his false ministers that of a Ted Haggard for sure..

    There is spiritual adulterated pervsion in the pulpit and there are more like him then are not sadly in the american contemporary church of today!!

    Truthbearer

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthbearer
    This is the counterfeit christianity which I have been saying in many of my threads, and it is a very , very scary thing..

    This guy ted Haggard is a pervert preaching in the pulpit of a most Holy God. How do you think he was exposed?? God himself outed this imposter and antichristian, which is one who poses as one but is anything but, and also demonstrates who the one he serves is ,,which is Satan, who is and does come as a light,but not the light of God,, but as an angel from heaven and will not deceive the world, who do not believe in God, but will and is deceiveing the christians as shown by this man and is 16,000 member and growing church.

    He represents hundreds of denominations in the ecumenical blending of all denominations including mormons which is evident to me,,it is the building up of the entrance and debut of the false christ represented by his false ministers that of a Ted Haggard for sure..

    There is spiritual adulterated pervsion in the pulpit and there are more like him then are not sadly in the american contemporary church of today!!

    Truthbearer

    I also have a correction about Ted Haggard, He is president of The National Evangelical Association constituting over 30 million people..Judgement has begun at the house of God and in the pulpit!! This man represents many in the pulpit of deceit and counterfeit antichrist spirit christianity,,preaching the truth but denying it's power evident by such a horrendous hypocrisy as this. It is a warning to the faithful:

    God has sent this delusion not the enemy of satan as you may suppose,,it is a judgement to a people who refuse to seek God on their own and believe any fanciful notion and message that tickle the ears and seduce the senses while numbing the spirititual senses at the same time leading to a great apostasy Paul warned of that will take place in the Last day's.

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    Rev. Ted Haggard, President, National Association of Evangelicals
    Pastor Ted Haggard is the president of the 30 million-member National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), the largest evangelical group in America. He is also founder and senior pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Time included Pastor Ted in their list of the 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America. Harper’s says, “No pastor in America holds more sway over the political direction of evangelicalism than does Pastor Ted.”

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthbearer
    I also have a correction about Ted Haggard, He is president of The National Evangelical Association constituting over 30 million people..Judgement has begun at the house of God and in the pulpit!! This man represents many in the pulpit of deceit and counterfeit antichrist spirit christianity,,preaching the truth but denying it's power evident by such a horrendous hypocrisy as this. It is a warning to the faithful:

    God has sent this delusion not the enemy of satan as you may suppose,,it is a judgement to a people who refuse to seek God on their own and believe any fanciful notion and message that tickle the ears and seduce the senses while numbing the spirititual senses at the same time leading to a great apostasy Paul warned of that will take place in the Last day's.

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    Rev. Ted Haggard, President, National Association of Evangelicals
    Pastor Ted Haggard is the president of the 30 million-member National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), the largest evangelical group in America. He is also founder and senior pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Time included Pastor Ted in their list of the 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America. Harper’s says, “No pastor in America holds more sway over the political direction of evangelicalism than does Pastor Ted.”
    TB, your PM box is full.

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by HotParadox
    TB, your PM box is full.
    Spell it out on the thread HP,
    but then again, I've got a lot of work to do today and would rather not be tied up on the thread - maybe next week.

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by EveryKnee
    Spell it out on the thread HP,
    but then again, I've got a lot of work to do today and would rather not be tied up on the thread - maybe next week.
    Hi EK. Sorry, I don't understand your post. :confused:

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by HotParadox
    Hi EK. Sorry, I don't understand your post. :confused:
    You can disregard. I'm dealing with a Jehovah's Witness right now.

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    It seems his hypocrisy knows no bounds.


    Fired Evangelist Slams Gays in New Movie
    Nov 06 1:55 PM US/Eastern

    By CHRISTY LEMIRE
    AP Movie Writer

    LOS ANGELES

    The Rev. Ted Haggard has been fired amid allegations of gay sex and drug use, but the evangelical leader can still be seen at the height of his powers _ preaching to thousands and condemning homosexuality _ in the documentary "Jesus Camp."
    In one scene of the film, which follows a group of children as they develop evangelical Christian beliefs, directors Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady visit Haggard's 14,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo. He tells the vast audience, "We don't have to debate about what we should think about homosexual activity. It's written in the Bible."

    Then Haggard looks into the camera and says kiddingly: "I think I know what you did last night," drawing laughs from the crowd. "If you send me a thousand dollars, I won't tell your wife."

    Later, another joke for the filmmakers: "If you use any of this, I'll sue you."

    The married, 50-year-old father of five admitted in a letter read Sunday to his followers that he was "guilty of sexual immorality." He has yet to address specific claims by a male escort that Haggard paid him for sex over the past three years.

    Haggard has acknowledged that he paid Mike Jones of Denver for a massage and for methamphetamine, but said he didn't have sex with Jones and didn't take the drug. He resigned last week as president of the National Association of Evangelicals, which represents 30 million people, and was removed Saturday as leader of his own church.

    "Jesus Camp" is playing in several cities and expands to more on Friday and throughout the year. Ewing and Grady said that when they shot footage for the film at the New Life Church in October 2005, they were struck by how enraptured Haggard's followers looked.

    "Pastor Ted, they were so proud of him. They thought he was hip, young, he didn't have that stodgy James Dobson feel," Ewing said Monday, referring to the Focus on the Family founder. "They all really adored him, that's the first thing I thought _ those people, those faces, they hung and took notes on every word he said _ I can't imagine what those people must be feeling."

    Haggard has disputed the way he's portrayed in "Jesus Camp," saying on his Web site (in a posting that since has been removed) that the filmmakers shot for hours at his church and only used the parts in which he was playing with negative stereotypes.

    "You can expect to learn as much about the Catholic Church from 'Nacho Libre' as you can learn about evangelicalism from 'Jesus Camp,'" he wrote. Ewing and Grady say Haggard is the only one who has complained about the way he was depicted in the film.

    "Jesus Camp" also shows Haggard speaking to an aspiring young preacher named Levi, asking him whether people listen to him because he's a kid or because he has something to say. His advice: "Use your cute-kid thing until you're 30, and by then you'll have good content."

    Grady said that when she first heard about the accusations against Haggard, "I was shocked but I was not surprised in any way because he did come across as somewhat of a hypocrite even in our movie _ in a smaller way, of course. He was so cynical in that exchange with that child in our movie, it was odd and it popped out."

    Haggard also leads the audience in praying for President Bush to select a Supreme Court nominee who supports their beliefs (it would end up becoming Samuel Alito) and later brags about the rapid expansion of evangelicalism.

    "It's got enough growth to essentially sway every election," Haggard says with a smile. "If the evangelicals vote, they determine the election."


    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/06/D8L7OAK80.html

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    i believe ted haggart was a jesuit plant who was trying to move more born-again christians into the E-movement, and the disgraceful act was set up to have the greatest affect and stun the true christians with dis-belief...my conspiracy theory only...

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by tony_jenn
    i believe ted haggart was a jesuit plant who was trying to move more born-again christians into the E-movement, and the disgraceful act was set up to have the greatest affect and stun the true christians with dis-belief...my conspiracy theory only...
    No, the Catholics didn't want him. He's all yours!

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    lol he ain't mine...i hadn't heard of him till now...are you catholic hotparadox?

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by tony_jenn
    lol he ain't mine...i hadn't heard of him till now...are you catholic hotparadox?
    No. You know what I am tony. I just don't like the constant bashing of Catholicism and Catholics. I don't see how it serves any purpose except to hurt Catholics who serve and please God. You've made your points many times over ,and I just hoped you would stop. That's all; I don't want to hurt your feelings, either; so I'll just end it there.

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    sorry I will drop it....my mistake...tony

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    Re: Evangelicals Condone drug use?

    Quote Originally Posted by tony_jenn
    sorry I will drop it....my mistake...tony
    Thanks tony. You're a gentleman.

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