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    Kerry on Iraq


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    Madeleine Albright, Clinton's Secretary of State said Saddam had WMD before Bush was in office!

    President Clinton said Saddam had WMD before Bush was in office!

    Sandy Burger, Clinton's National Security Adviser said Saddam had WMD before Bush was in office!

    NOW THEY ALL WANT TO CUT AND RUN BECAUSE PRESIDENT BUSH DECEIVED THEM AND LIED ABOUT THE WMD!

    WHO IS REALLY LYING?
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    You're doing it again. You're posting the same things in multiple threads, even after being warned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianmatthews
    You're doing it again. You're posting the same things in multiple threads, even after being warned.
    Well you just keep whining about me posting this video proof that Bush didn't lie about the WMD on the one exisiting thread where is very well applied and now here on a new thread decicated to the democrats. Why don't you tell on me and PM Lady Mod. She can delete one or both if she believes they are unjustified.

    But be very careful not to address the issue of my posts! You just keep whining about me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustupid
    Well you just keep whining about me posting this video proof that Bush didn't lie about the WMD on the one exisiting thread where is very well applied and now here on a new thread decicated to the democrats. Why don't you tell on me and PM Lady Mod. She can delete one or both if she believes they are unjustified.

    But be very careful not to address the issue of my posts! You just keep whining about me.
    Since when am I a Democrat apologist? I "keep whining"? I just made these two posts within the last 3 minutes. I made one here, and one in the thread where people are debating BANNING YOU BECAUSE YOU KEEP REPOSTING REDUNDANT ENTRIES.

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    I have heard for so long how Bush lied and people died. Above you have a video proving President Clinton and his top staff said Saddam had chemical weapons before President Bush was in office. Now suddenly the liberals have no opinions?

    Come on, at least tell us again how President Bush made this all up so he could invade Iraq and get the oil!

    Better yet tell us how going into Iraq was a mistake and was based on lies and how we should cut and run now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustupid
    I have heard for so long how Bush lied and people died. Above you have a video proving President Clinton and his top staff said Saddam had chemical weapons before President Bush was in office. Now suddenly the liberals have no opinions?

    Come on, at least tell us again how President Bush made this all up so he could invade Iraq and get the oil!

    Better yet tell us how going into Iraq was a mistake and was based on lies and how we should cut and run now!
    I don't have to defend Democrats, I am not one. They, for the most part, enabled the Administration in this war. The war in Iraq is a mistake, and we should leave immediately.

    Do you like Iran and Syria? They're who the Administration will be talking to about helping to stabilize Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianmatthews
    I don't have to defend Democrats, I am not one. They, for the most part, enabled the Administration in this war. The war in Iraq is a mistake, and we should leave immediately.

    Do you like Iran and Syria? They're who the Administration will be talking to about helping to stabilize Iraq.

    So you want us to lose the war in Iraq.

    Thanks for clearing that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustupid
    So you want us to lose the war in Iraq.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
    Nobody wants us to lose. Unfortunately, the realistic assessment, to me, is that it's never going to get better with us there. The only thing that can happen is that more Americans will die and more Iraqis will die at the hands of Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianmatthews
    Nobody wants us to lose. Unfortunately, the realistic assessment, to me, is that it's never going to get better with us there. The only thing that can happen is that more Americans will die and more Iraqis will die at the hands of Americans.

    We either win or we lose. Pick one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustupid
    We either win or we lose. Pick one!
    What is this, second grade? I'm afraid it's a little more nuanced than WIN or LOSE. I see no viable way of "winning" this war, nor have I been presented with a remotely realistic goal for doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianmatthews
    What is this, second grade? I'm afraid it's a little more nuanced than WIN or LOSE. I see no viable way of "winning" this war, nor have I been presented with a remotely realistic goal for doing so.
    What do you think this is a game? Call the game because of rain and no one wins or loses? Tell me Mr. Nuance, how do you not win a war and not lose it either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustupid
    What do you think this is a game? Call the game because of rain and no one wins or loses? Tell me Mr. Nuance, how do you not win a war and not lose it either?
    I see we've advanced to sports analogies. How do you not win or lose? Easy, call it a draw.

    How did we win in Vietnam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianmatthews
    I see we've advanced to sports analogies. How do you not win or lose? Easy, call it a draw.

    How did we win in Vietnam?
    How many millions died in Vietnam when we pulled out? How many millions do you want to die in Iraq because we didn't have the guts to finish what we started? Vietnam a draw my arss! Vietnam was the first in a series of events that taught Osama and company that this country didn't have the guts to stay and win! Who gets Iraq when we leave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustupid
    How many millions died in Vietnam when we pulled out? How many millions do you want to die in Iraq because we didn't have the guts to finish what we started? Vietnam a draw my arss! Vietnam was the first in a series of events that taught Osama and company that this country didn't have the guts to stay and win! Who gets Iraq when we leave?
    Hey, you're the one using the "game" analogies. I didn't call Vietnam a draw. It was a loss. It was another unwinnable war.

    Well, at the rate we're going we're probably going to hand off control of Iraq to Iran and Syrian interests. This is at least what the James Baker report is leaning towards.

    I don't want ANYBODY to die in Iraq. But unfortunately, the longer we're there the worse we're making it. We've made too many mistakes and broken our own ability to achieve any real goals. The war was run with utter incompetence.

    Every prediction the Administration has ever made about this war has been wrong.

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