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    NCAA Penn State Penalties

    They are deliberating and going live on CNN now. UNPRECEDENTED sanctions are going to be delivered I am typing like a madman now...here's the loose bullet points:

    "Tragic damage" to victims. Says pain of victims can't be undone. Abuse in sports programs will not be tolerated.

    NCAA 60 MILLION DOLLAR PENALTY TO PENN STATE. This will be used for victims of molestion. (This is what they make in 1 year BTW)

    PENN STATE BANNED BOWL GAMES 4 YEARS

    15 not 25 FULL SCHOLARSHIPS 5 years

    ANY STUDENTS CAN TRANSFER WITHOUT PENALTY

    ANY FOOTBALL STUDENTS CAN KEEP SCHOLARSHIPS

    RECORDs ALTERED 1998 to 2011
    SERVE 5 YEAR PROBATION PERIOD. ALL WINS ARE VACATED, erased

    "Reserves the right to closely monitor Penn STATE"

    "Ending the WHOLE football team will be bring on too much "unintended harm".

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    Lets tear down this statue!!!!!!!



    USE THIS NCAA PENN STATE IMAGE ON YOUR SITE

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    STatue was taken down today!:sun_smiley::sun_smiley::sun_smiley:

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    STatue was taken down today!:sun_smiley::sun_smiley::sun_smiley:
    That is a good thing.

    It is sad this University has to suffer because of what a few did but what they did is so serious this University will be dealing with the consequences for years to come.

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    Another disgusting thread with a rush to judgement backed up with no facts . Sad Society we live in when people gobble up anything they hear in the media as gospel

    "Framing Paterno" Releases the Ultimate Flow Chart to Understand the Sandusky Case

    I have always tried to make it VERY clear (no matter what the idiots automatically presume) that I am NOT a conspiracy theorist and that my theory of the Penn State/Sandusky "scandal" is NOT based in any sort of extensive "conspiracy."



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    Maybe now Joe can finally be honored properly, now that the fairy tale of a cover up has been thrown out




    How Former PSU President Graham Spanier Got Convicted For Something He Didn’t Do

    by John Ziegler | 4:43 pm, March 24th, 2017







    Over five years after the story exploded and became the most controversial scandal in the history of college sports, former Penn State University President Graham Spanier was finally acquitted today of the “conspiracy” charge against him, but convicted on only one of two charges of “endangering the welfare of a child.” He was found guilty of something for which there is no evidence nor logic indicating that he committed a crime and, most amazingly, it happened without his lawyers even putting on a case.

    Despite having no connection to Penn State, I have investigated the entire “Jerry Sandusky Scandal” on almost a full-time basis, for no money, for most of the past five years. I have spoken to Spanier for many hours and dealt with him extensively. I also attended his trial and I am 100% positive that he never had any idea that Sandusky might have been a pedophile, and that he acted almost exactly as he should have throughout the entire situation.

    So, how could something like this have happened in our judicial system? The real story is far too involved to tell in just one short story, but here is essence of it.

    From the very beginning, Spanier and Penn State got caught up in a media firestorm they didn’t see coming because they all honestly thought that Jerry Sandusky was innocent and that, even if he wasn’t (at least in a remotely rational world), they knew they had no culpability for the crimes of a former employee. So when in November of 2011 it was leaked that Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary had supposedly testified to a grand jury that about a decade before (he got the date, month, and year of the episode wrong) he had witnessed Sandusky “raping” a boy, they were completely stunned and unprepared for the media-created terror which would ensue.

    Spanier’s first instincts, which were correct, were to strongly back the two highly-respected long-time Penn State administrators, Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, who were being charged with a series of serious crimes related to covering up for Sandusky (I and many others close to the case are now completely convinced that the state’s primary objective in charging them was actually to destroy two of Sandusky’s strongest witnesses). He released a statement doing so before the news media suddenly decided, thanks to the tangential involvement of legendary head football coach Joe Paterno, that this story was now the most outrageous thing that has ever happened in the history of Pennsylvania.

    The statement, which was perfect given the information he had at the time, backfired on him because it was somehow seen as not being accepting enough, before anyone in the case had even spoken publicly, that all of those being implicated, including Sandusky, were clearly guilty. In short, Spanier, an esteemed and very liberal university president, had committed a violation of “political correctness.”

    You see, when a witch hunt is underway, you aren’t allowed to defend yourself or anyone else who might be even remotely involved. You must accept the popular narrative as true and then beg for forgiveness, even if what is being alleged is totally false and without evidence or logic.

    In a pure panic, the Penn State board, guided by then-Governor Tom Corbett (who had a major feud with Spanier over education funding the previous spring), fired Joe Paterno and forced Spanier to resign. That was then seen, effectively, as a guilty plea on behalf of the entire school and it provoked a firestorm of injustice which seemingly will never stop.

    Paterno almost immediately died and Sandusky, without a single continuance or a shred of hard evidence, was convicted just seven months after his arrest. The firings created a huge backlash in the Penn State community and forced the board to justify what they did. That led to them paying Louis Freeh many millions of dollars for the “Freeh Report” to conclude that there was a cover-up. This then incited the NCAA to act with record speed to institute sanctions (which will later be revoked), thus further setting in stone the completely false narrative of a cover up. This then gave the Attorney General’s office the leverage to charge Spanier himself, thus also shutting up a strong voice for what really happened here.

    Meanwhile, Penn State, eager to show the world and news media how much they “get it,” spent about $100 million dollars in tax-payer money in totally un-vetted settlements for Sandusky’s accusers. This even further established the false narrative, especially when overtly absurd stories were selectively leaked to an easily duped news media all too eager to substantiate their original rush to judgement in this case.

    At each point in this battle, those on the other side who were morally certain that they and those they support had done nothing wrong kept thinking that they could cede each piece of land because it wasn’t the proper hill to “die” on. They kept having faith that as time passed and the extreme emotion this case had triggered finally died down, that the system would work. Surely, they believed, if a fair jury ever heard this case that the truth would come out and justice would finally be done.

    What they miscalculated was that which each retreat their position got weaker and the public became both convinced of total guilt and stopped being open-minded, or even caring about it. There was no greater proof of this than the completely nonsensical verdict in Mike McQueary’s civil suit, which showed just how incredibly polluted the jury pool in Pennsylvania is on this case.

    Knowing this is what they faced, last week Curley and Schultz took a plea bargain which gave them a misdemeanor conviction for endangering the welfare of a child. In a remotely normal case, they would get zero prison time and this would be seen as a near total repudiation of the state’s original and laughably overcharged case against them. Instead, the media dutifully did the state’s bidding by ludicrously portraying this development as an admission of a cover up (anyone who objectively saw their testimony this week would realize this interpretation is beyond preposterous).

    At that point, Spanier, who rejected the same plea deal, was basically boxed in. Only a very aggressive defense which sought to blow up the many misperceptions about this case could have saved him from at least a minor conviction. Instead, the defense (directly against my many urgings/warnings) decided to curl up into the fetal position and rely solely on the reality that, according to the law, the state didn’t come close to proving their case.

    Not only did they not even attempt to confront several prosecution witnesses (out fear of being politically incorrect again) who could have been very easily discredited, they literally didn’t even put on a defense. Former NCIS and FIS special agent John Snedden (whose report for the federal government led to Spanier’s top secret security clearance being renewed after the scandal broke, which I released exclusively here last week) traveled many hours to be the defense’s star witness, as was promised to the jury, but at the very last moment the defense, in an act of extreme naiveté, decided to rest without calling any witnesses.

    At that moment I knew that the jury that I had seen, which surely had been brainwashed by almost six years of unfair media coverage, was never going to be able to navigate through the fog of emotion on which the prosecution completely relied and thus be able to see that there was no case here on the facts or the law (or that a conviction of any kind here sets an incredibly dangerous precedent for educators everywhere).

    I doubt there has never been a case which more clearly echoed Ben Franklin’s famous quote “We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately” than this one. We now have four previously esteemed men who have been unfairly hanged (without even putting up a decent fight in court) all of whom know they are innocent and believe that all the others are as well.

    The real story here is the most amazing thing I have ever seen. Sadly, I doubt it will ever be properly told.

    [image screen grab via ABC News]

    John Ziegler hosts a weekly podcast focusing on news media issues and is documentary filmmaker. You can follow him on Twitter at @ZigManFreud or email him at johnz@mediaite.com

    This is an opinion piece. The views expressed in this article are those of just the author.

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    An innocent man is in jail and a coaching legend destroyed because of this piece of shit

    I present to you, the 'boy in the shower "


    Friday, September 29, 2017

    Boy In The Shower Says He Can't Remember 34 Times



    By Ralph Cipriano
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    Allan Myers, the boy in the Penn State showers that Mike McQueary allegedly saw being raped by Jerry Sandusky, sure has a lousy memory.

    Myers couldn't remember when a picture of him posing with Sandusky had been taken, even though it was at Myers' own wedding.

    Myers couldn't remember what he told a couple of state troopers when they interviewed him in 2011, and Myers said that Sandusky had never abused him.

    Myers couldn't remember what he told a private investigator, namely that Mike McQueary was full of crap, and that nothing sexual had happened in that shower.

    A 48-page transcript from a Nov. 4, 2016 hearing where Myers was called as a witness as part of Sandusky's bid for a new trial was released for the first time earlier this week, in response to a request from a reporter for a major mainstream media news outlet. The transcript provides some insight into what is clearly a screwed-up case that the prosecutors and the news media have completely botched.

    And they blew it because they showed no skepticism about witnesses like Allan Myers, who, from what he had to say in this transcript, clearly isn't credible.

    In the transcript, Myers, who was on the witness stand for less than an hour before Centre County Senior Judge John M. Cleland, said he couldn't recall or didn't remember 34 times.

    Either Myers was very forgetful, or he was clearly lying.

    Before Myers was brought in as a witness, Sandusky was sworn in and the judge explained to him that since nobody knew what Myers was going to say, his testimony "could be harmful to your case."

    But Sandusky had his mind made up.

    "It is my decision to have Allan Myers testify," Sandusky told the judge.

    Myers, a former Marine, testified that he got to know Sandusky through the former assistant Penn State coach's Second Mile charity.

    "Did you think of Mr. Sandusky as a father figure," Al Lindsay, Sandusky's lawyer, asked.

    "Yes, I did," Myers said.

    Myers was shown a picture of himself and Sandusky at Myers's wedding. Lindsay asked if Myers remembered when that picture was taken.

    "That I do not remember," Myers said.

    Lindsay showed Myers a photo of a football camp when Myers served as a coach, and posed for a picture with the boys he was coaching, along with Sandusky. Lindsay asked Myers how old he was in the photo.

    "I don't remember," Myers said. "I don't even know what year that was."

    "Well, were you an adult," Lindsay asked. "Do you know that?"

    "I wasn't an adult," Myers said.

    "Can you give us any estimate of your age," the lawyer asked.

    "No," Myers said.

    Myers recalled that he lived in Sandusky's home "right after I graduated high school to attend Penn State."

    "And I left there because he [Sandusky] was controlling and I left," Myers said. "And that was the end that I ever lived with him."

    Lindsay asked Myers if he remembered being interviewed on Sept. 20, 2011, by state Trooper James Ellis and Corporal Joseph A. Letter.

    "I recall being interviewed," Myers said.

    Lindsay gave Myers a copy of the police report and asked if it reflected what he told the state troopers.

    "Yes," Myers said, before snapping at the lawyer, "Please don't raise your voice at me."

    Lindsay asked if Myers remembered telling the troopers that he and Sandusky at worked out at the Lasch Building.

    "I don't remember that interview," Myer said.

    Lindsay asked Myers if he recalled telling the troopers "nothing inappropriate occurred" in the shower, and that at "no time were you made to feel uncomfortable."

    "I don't recall," Myers replied.

    Lindsay asked Myers if he remembered telling the troopers that after workouts with Sandusky, he and Jerry would return to Sandusky's home and shower in separate facilities?

    "I said it," Myers said, "But I don't remember it."

    Lindsay asked Myers if he remembered an interview he gave to an investigator named Curtis Everhart who worked at the time for Joseph Amendola, Sandusky's trial lawyer.

    Myers remembered the interview.

    Lindsay asked if he remembered telling the investigator, "I am alleged Victim No. 2."

    "I'm sure I did," Myers said, before adding, "I don't remember everything."

    Lindsay asked Myers if he recalled telling the investigator that on the day McQueary thought he saw an anal rape in the showers, Myers said "Jerry and I were slapping towels at each other trying to sting each other."

    Myers was a month short of his 14th birthday in 2001 when the infamous shower incident occurred. Even though the official grand jury report says that Mike McQueary heard "slapping sounds" and witnessed Sandusky raping a 10-year-old boy in the shower.

    "I don't recall everything I told Mr. Everhart," Myers said.

    Did Myers recall telling the investigator that he used to slap the walls and slide on the shower floor when he was taking a shower with Jerry?

    "I can't recall everything I said in that interview back then," Myers said.

    Lindsay read out loud a quote from a report that stated what Myers had supposedly told Everhart:

    "The grand jury report says Coach McQueary said he observed Jerry and I engaged in sexual activity. That is not the truth and McQueary is not telling the truth. Nothing occurred that night in the shower."

    "Do you recall telling him that," Lindsay asked the witness.

    "Like I said, I can't recall everything I said back then," Myers said. "But if it's in there, I said it then, yes."

    Lindsay asked Myers if he told the investigator that "I never saw McQueary look into the shower that night. I am sure."

    "That's what I said back then," Myers said. "Once again, I can't recall what I said then."

    Lindsay read Myers more quotes from the interview with the investigator.

    In the quotes, Myers:

    -- denied having sex with Sandusky;

    -- repeated that "McQueary did not tell the truth;"

    -- repeated that "I am alleged Victim No. 2 on the grand jury report;"

    -- Again claimed that Sandusky "never sexually assaulted me."

    "That's what I said then," Myers said. "And once again, I can't recall everything I said then."

    Lindsay asked Myers if he told the truth when he spoke to the investigator.

    "Yes," he said.

    Myers had once been Jerry Sandusky's biggest defender. He had even written a letter to the editor of a local newspaper stating what a great guy Jerry was.

    Then Myers hired attorney Andrew Shubin, who represented eight victims in the Penn State sex abuse scandal.

    Myers became Shubin's ninth victim. He flipped on Jerry, claimed he'd been abused, and collected a reported $3 million.

    When asked how much he received from his settlement, Myers said," Im not allowed to answer that question."

    Lindsay asked Myers, who wasn't called as a witness during the Sandusky trial, where he was when the trial took place.

    "I believe I was somewhere in central Pennsylvania," he said. "Now exactly where I was, I can't recall. I might have been working. I don't know exactly, but I was here in Pennsylvania . . . I was somewhere inside Clinton County or Clearfield County, somewhere in that little Trifecta."

    Asked if he could recall being in a specific place, Myers replied, "I can't recall where I was when the trial was going on . . . I can't tell you exactly where I was, I don't remember that."

    It was Lindsay's contention that Sandusky deserved a new trial because the prosecutor, Joseph McGettigan, lied to the jury when he said that the existence of Victim No. 2 was "known only to God."

    After Myers left the witness stand, Lindsay put Sandusky up to testify as a rebuttal witness.

    "Mr. Sandusky, did you ever sexually abuse Allan Myers in any way," Lindsay asked.

    "Absolutely not," Sandusky said.

    John Ziegler, a reporter who was in the courtroom when Myers testified, said he was glad that the transcript had finally released.

    "This is the only testimony of the person who is the epicenter of this whole thing," Ziegler said about the Penn State scandal.

    "And it's obvious to anyone who understand the case that he [Myers] wasn't telling the truth," Ziegler said. "He [Myers] remembers everything up until he flips on Jerry and then he can't remember anything."

    Myers' testimony, Ziegler said, was "a hundred percent consistent with a guy who had who had flipped for $3 million and felt bad about it, and didn't want to deal with it anymore."

    When Sandusky took the stand, Ziegler recalled, "He was in tears, he was angry. It was righteous anger."

    John Snedden, a former NCIS and FIS special agent who investigated the scandal at Penn State, said he was disturbed by Myers' evolving story.

    "His initial statements are definitive and exculpatory," Snedden said. "His testimony then degrades into a wishy-washy, exceptionally foggy abyss."

    "Being officially interviewed as the 'victim' of a traumatic event doesn't happen everyday," Snedden said. "And then you can't remember the specifics of that interview? Seriously?"

    "It's clear why he [Myers] wasn't called by the prosecution" in the Sandusky case," Snedden said. "His testimony is exculpatory and now serves only as an example of blatant prosecutorial manipulation."

    And where the hell did they hide Myers during the Sandusky trial?



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    The conspiracy of the Penn State cover up grows larger with the release of the complete work of fiction "Paterno" airing on HBO

    Nice of them to make a film with many detailed scenes of the Paterno family in their home, in private family discussions during the scandal

    Would have been much more accurate to actually speak with the family to find out exactly what was said, but, they weren't consulted

    An Innocent man remains in jail, The cover up myth continues, and a legends legacy destroyed .

    http://www.framingpaterno.com/

    Here is the story Newsweek scrapped after six months, days before the story should have ran

    http://www.framingpaterno.com/sites/...ppy_valley.pdf

    If it can happen to Joe, it can happen to anyone

    https://www.amazon.com/Most-Hated-Ma.../dp/162006765X

    Everyone knows the story of Jerry Sandusky, the serial pedophile, the Monster. But what if that story is wrong? What if the former Penn State football coach and founder of the Second Mile is an innocent man convicted in the midst of a moral panic fed by the sensationalistic media, police trawling, and memory-warping psychotherapy? The Most Hated Man in America reads like a true crime psychological thriller and is required reading for everyone from criminologists to sports fans.

    “If potential readers are convinced that Jerry Sandusky is guilty, they need to read The Most Hated Man in America. This meticulously researched, provocative, and wonderfully written book by Mark Pendergrast, an enormously important contributor to the repressed memory debate, will certainly make them see another side. Maybe they will think twice.”

    -- Elizabeth Loftus, Distinguished Professor of Psychology & Social Behavior, University of California, Irvine, author, The Myth of Repressed Memory and other books.

    “The Most Hated Man in America tells a truly remarkable story. In all the media coverage the Sandusky case has received, it’s amazing that no one else has noticed or written about so many of these things, including all the ‘memories’ that were retrieved through therapy and litigation. One would think that the sheer insanity of so much of this will have to eventually come out.”

    --Richard A. Leo, Hamill Family Professor of Law and Psychology, University of San Francisco, author, Police Interrogation and American Justice and The Wrong Guys: Murder, False Confessions, and the Norfolk Four

    “Virtually everybody knows with certainty that Jerry Sandusky is a serial child molester. He was, after all, found guilty by a jury of his peers. But what if what we think we know about Sandusky is at least in some ways incorrect? Regardless of their ultimate conclusions, readers will find The Most Hated Man in America to be thoughtful and provocative, addressing questions that deserve to be asked in a just society.”

    --Fred S. Berlin, M.D., Ph.D. Director, The Johns Hopkins Sexual Behavior Consultation Unit, The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
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    Quote Originally Posted by brucefan View Post
    The conspiracy of the Penn State cover up grows larger with the release of the complete work of fiction "Paterno" airing on HBO

    Nice of them to make a film with many detailed scenes of the Paterno family in their home, in private family discussions during the scandal

    Would have been much more accurate to actually speak with the family to find out exactly what was said, but, they weren't consulted

    An Innocent man remains in jail, The cover up myth continues, and a legends legacy destroyed .

    http://www.framingpaterno.com/

    Here is the story Newsweek scrapped after six months, days before the story should have ran

    http://www.framingpaterno.com/sites/...ppy_valley.pdf

    If it can happen to Joe, it can happen to anyone

    https://www.amazon.com/Most-Hated-Ma.../dp/162006765X

    Everyone knows the story of Jerry Sandusky, the serial pedophile, the Monster. But what if that story is wrong? What if the former Penn State football coach and founder of the Second Mile is an innocent man convicted in the midst of a moral panic fed by the sensationalistic media, police trawling, and memory-warping psychotherapy? The Most Hated Man in America reads like a true crime psychological thriller and is required reading for everyone from criminologists to sports fans.

    “If potential readers are convinced that Jerry Sandusky is guilty, they need to read The Most Hated Man in America. This meticulously researched, provocative, and wonderfully written book by Mark Pendergrast, an enormously important contributor to the repressed memory debate, will certainly make them see another side. Maybe they will think twice.”

    -- Elizabeth Loftus, Distinguished Professor of Psychology & Social Behavior, University of California, Irvine, author, The Myth of Repressed Memory and other books.

    “The Most Hated Man in America tells a truly remarkable story. In all the media coverage the Sandusky case has received, it’s amazing that no one else has noticed or written about so many of these things, including all the ‘memories’ that were retrieved through therapy and litigation. One would think that the sheer insanity of so much of this will have to eventually come out.”

    --Richard A. Leo, Hamill Family Professor of Law and Psychology, University of San Francisco, author, Police Interrogation and American Justice and The Wrong Guys: Murder, False Confessions, and the Norfolk Four

    “Virtually everybody knows with certainty that Jerry Sandusky is a serial child molester. He was, after all, found guilty by a jury of his peers. But what if what we think we know about Sandusky is at least in some ways incorrect? Regardless of their ultimate conclusions, readers will find The Most Hated Man in America to be thoughtful and provocative, addressing questions that deserve to be asked in a just society.”

    --Fred S. Berlin, M.D., Ph.D. Director, The Johns Hopkins Sexual Behavior Consultation Unit, The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
    If there's an innocent man in prison who's working to get him released, haven't kept up with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeggieSue View Post
    If there's an innocent man in prison who's working to get him released, haven't kept up with this.
    Very few sadly . No one has any incentive to do anything since mostly everyone is fully invested in the false narrative Even though many many people believe Jerry at least deserves a new fair trial, if not believe he is innocent, no one wants to speak out publicly for fear of getting destroyed for that belief .

    Now even if you think Jerry is guilty, for anyone to still believe Joe Paterno and Penn State were involved in a cover up, and a HBO movie made that furthers that narrative is downright criminal .

    Jerry Sandusky prosecutor: No evidence Joe Paterno participated in criminal cover-up at Penn State

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...utor_no_e.html


    Federal Report on Former Penn State President Concluded There Was No Cover-up

    https://lawnewz.com/opinion/exclusiv...s-no-cover-up/

    The investigation no one will tell you about

    Special Agent Who Investigated Spanier Blows Up Case





    FIS Special Agent John Snedden
    By Ralph Cipriano
    for BigTrial.net

    What if everything you thought you knew about the so-called Penn State sex abuse scandal wasn't true?

    http://www.bigtrial.net/2017/03/spec...anier.html?m=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by brucefan View Post
    Very few sadly . No one has any incentive to do anything since mostly everyone is fully invested in the false narrative Even though many many people believe Jerry at least deserves a new fair trial, if not believe he is innocent, no one wants to speak out publicly for fear of getting destroyed for that belief .

    Now even if you think Jerry is guilty, for anyone to still believe Joe Paterno and Penn State were involved in a cover up, and a HBO movie made that furthers that narrative is downright criminal .

    Jerry Sandusky prosecutor: No evidence Joe Paterno participated in criminal cover-up at Penn State

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...utor_no_e.html


    Federal Report on Former Penn State President Concluded There Was No Cover-up

    https://lawnewz.com/opinion/exclusiv...s-no-cover-up/

    The investigation no one will tell you about

    Special Agent Who Investigated Spanier Blows Up Case





    FIS Special Agent John Snedden
    By Ralph Cipriano
    for BigTrial.net

    What if everything you thought you knew about the so-called Penn State sex abuse scandal wasn't true?

    http://www.bigtrial.net/2017/03/spec...anier.html?m=1
    Hopefully some lawstudents from one of the law schools will take on this case and work to show his innocence.

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    JZ # ItStillAmazesMe that Joe Paterno got turned into a pedophile enabler (or worse) by the same media which revered him for decades, just days after he was the key reason Jerry Sandusky was even arrested, & was being praised by the attorney general's office.

    Penn State coach Paterno praised for acting appropriately in reporting Jerry Sandusky sex abuse suspicions


    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...cting_app.html
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    http://www.bigtrial.net/2018/06/inte...uis-freeh.html


    There was no cover-up because there were no crimes to cover up!


    SATURDAY, JUNE 30, 2018
    Confidential Internal Review Shreds Louis Freeh Report
    image: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HmMS8EYzx...49.45%2BAM.png

    By Ralph Cipriano
    for BigTrial.net

    A confidential internal review of the Louis Freeh Report on the Penn State sex abuse scandal, conducted behind closed doors for two years by the university's own trustees, found factual mistakes, "deeply flawed" methodology, as well as an alleged conflict of interest on Freeh's part, along with faulty stated opinions that Freeh's own staffers disagreed with, in writing.

    It was the Freeh Report that the NCAA relied upon in 2012 to impose draconian sanctions on Penn State, including a $60 million fine, a bowl game ban that lasted two years, the loss of 170 athletic scholarships and the elimination of 111 of Joe Paterno's wins, although the wins were subsequently restored.

    On Friday, a group of 11 trustees called on the full 38-member board to release the full 200-page critique of the 267-page Freeh Report, formally renounce Freeh's findings, and try to recoup some of the $8.3 million that the university paid Freeh.

    "I want to put the document in your hands so you can read it yourself, but I can't do that today," said Alice Pope, a trustee and St. John's University professor who helped conduct the internal review of the Freeh report. But the materials that Pope and six other trustees had to sue the university to obtain are still under seal according to a 2015 court order. And the university's lawyers have recently advised the 11 minority trustees that the report they worked on for two years remains privileged and confidential.

    So yesterday, Pope called on the full board to release the 200-page report as early as their next meeting, on July 20th. But chances are slim and none that the board's chairman, Mark Dambly, and other majority board members will ever willingly open Pandora's box and reveal to the public the facts they've spent at least hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to bury for the past six years. Facts will present further evidence of just how badly the trustees, Louie Freeh, and the attorney general botched the Penn State investigation.

    The full board of trustees, Pope said yesterday, never voted to formally adopt the findings of the Freeh Report, which found that Penn State officials had covered up the sex crimes of Jerry Sandusky.

    "Rather, the board adopted a don't act, don't look and don't tell policy" Pope said that amounted to a "tacit acceptance of the Freeh Report." A report that Pope said has resulted in "profound reputational harm to our university along with $300 million in costs so far."

    In addition to the $60 million in fines, the university's board of trustees has -- while doing little or no investigating -- paid out a minimum of $118 million to 36 alleged victims of sex abuse, in addition to spending more than $80 million in legal fees, and $50 million to institute new reforms aimed at preventing future abuse.

    That internal 200-page report and the materials it draws upon may still be privileged and confidential, But Big Trial has obtained a seven-page "Executive Summary of Findings" of that review dated Jan. 8, 2017, plus an attached 25-page synopsis from that same date that highlights the evidence discovered by the minority trustees in their review of those confidential documents still under court seal.

    According to the executive summary, "Louis Freeh and his team disregarded the preponderance of the evidence" in concluding there was a cover up at Penn State of Jerry Sandusky's crimes.

    "Louis Freeh and his team knowingly provided a false conclusion in stating that the alleged coverup was motivated by a desire to protect the football program and a false culture that overvalued football and athletics," the executive summary states.

    According to the executive summary, the trustees faulted Freeh and his investigators for their "willingness . . . to be led by media narratives," as well as "an over reliance on unreliable sources," such as former Penn State Counsel Cynthia Baldwin.

    Freeh, the executive summary states, also relied on "deeply flawed" procedures for interviewing witnesses. The interviews conducted by Freeh's investigators weren't done under oath, or subpoenas, and weren't tape-recorded, the executive summary wrote, providing for "biased reporting of interview data" and "inaccurate summaries" of witness testimony.

    At yesterday's press conference, Pope said the 11 trustees wanted to know the degree of cooperation Freeh's team had with the NCAA and the state attorney general's office during their investigations. According to statecollege.com, State Senate Majority Leader Jake Corman has previously stated that the coordination between Freeh and the NCAA during the Penn State investigation was at best inappropriate and at worst "two parties working together to get a predetermined outcome."

    In the executive summary, the trustees cited "interference in Louis Freeh's investigation by the Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General, wherein information gathered in the criminal investigations of Penn State officials was improperly (and perhaps illegally) shared with Louis Freeh and his team."

    This is a subject Big Trial will explore in a subsequent blog post. But earlier this year, I wrote to Louis Freeh, and asked if he and his team was authorized to have access to grand jury secrets. He declined comment.

    Yesterday, Freeh issued a statement that ripped the minority trustees. "Since 2015 . . . these misguided alumni have been fighting a rear-guard action to turn the clocks back and to resist the positive changes which the PSU students and faculty have full embraced," Freeh wrote. He concluded that despite criticism of his report by the minority trustees, to date, they have produced "no report, no facts, news and no credible evidence" that have damaged the credibility of his investigation.

    But in the executive summary, the trustees blasted Freeh for having an alleged conflict of interest with the NCAA, and they cited some credible evidence to prove it.

    "Louis Freeh's conflict of interest in pursuing future investigative assignments with the NCAA during his contracted period of working for Penn State," the executive summary states, "provided motivation for forming conclusions consistent with the NCAA's goals to enhance their own reputation by being tough on Penn State."

    In a criminal manner, such as the Jerry Sandusky pedophilia investigation, the NCAA had no legal standing. But the NCAA justified its intervention in the case by finding that a lack of institutional control on Penn State's part opened the door to the Jerry Sandusky sex scandal.

    In their synopsis of evidence, the trustees relied on internal Freeh Group emails that showed that while Freeh was finishing up his investigation of Penn State, he was angling for his group to become the "go to investigators" for the NCAA.

    On July 7, 2012, a week before the release of the Freeh Report on Penn State, Omar McNeill, a senior investigator for Freeh, wrote to Freeh and a partner of Freeh's. "This has opened up an opportunity to have the dialogue with [NCAA President Mark] Emmert about possibly being the go to internal investigator for the NCAA," McNeill wrote. "It appears we have Emmert's attention now."

    In response, Freeh wrote back, "Let's try to meet with him and make a deal -- a very good cost contract to be the NCAA's 'go to investigators' -- we can even craft a big discounted rate given the unique importance of such a client. Most likely he will agree to a meeting -- if he does not ask for one first."

    A spokesman for Freeh could not immediately be reached for comment.

    At yesterday's press conference, Pope also raised the issue of a separate but concurrent federal investigation conducted on the Penn State campus in 2012 by Special Agent John Snedden, made public last year, but completely ignored by the mainstream media, that reached the opposite conclusion that Freeh and the attorney general did, that there was no official cover up at Penn State.

    Pope stated she wanted to know more about the discrepancies between the parallel investigations that reached such opposite conclusions.

    Back in 2012, Snedden, a former NCIS special agent working as a special agent for the Federal Investigative Services [FIS], was assigned to determine whether Spanier deserved to have a high-level national security clearance renewed. During his investigation, Snedden placed Spanier under oath and questioned him for eight hours, as well as interviewed many other witnesses on the Penn State campus, including Cynthia Baldwin, who told him that Spanier was a "man of integrity."

    About seven months after Baldwin told Spanier this, she flipped, and appeared in a secret grand jury proceeding to not only testify against Spanier, but also former Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley, and former Penn State Vice President Gary Schultz.

    Baldwin, who had previously represented Spanier, Curley and Schultz before the grand jury, testified last month before the disciplinary board of the state Supreme Court, which has accused her of violating the attorney-client privilege.

    After his investigation, Special Agent Snedden concluded in a 110-page report that Spanier had done nothing wrong, and that there was no coverup at Penn State.

    That's because, according to Snedden, Mike McQueary, the alleged whistleblower in the case, was an unreliable witness who told many different conflicting stories about an alleged incident in the Penn State showers where McQueary saw Jerry Sandusky with a naked 10-year-old boy. "Which story do you believe?" Snedden told Big Trial last year.

    In his grand jury testimony, McQueary said his observations of Sandusky were based on one or two "glances" that lasted only "one or two seconds," glances from an incident at least eight years previous. But in the hands of the attorney general's fiction writers, those glances of "one or two seconds" became an anal rape of a child, conclusively witnessed by McQueary.

    On March 1, 2002, according to the 2011 grand jury presentment, [McQueary] walked into the locker room in the Lasch Building at State College and heard “rhythmic, slapping sounds.” Glancing into a mirror, he “looked into the shower . . . [and] saw a naked boy, Victim No. 2, whose age he estimated to be 10 years old, with his hands up against the wall, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Jerry Sandusky.”

    "The graduate assistant went to his office and called his father, reporting to him what he had seen. The graduate assistant and his father decided that the graduate assistant had to promptly report what he had seen to Coach Joe Paterno . . . The next morning, a Saturday, the graduate assistant telephoned Paterno and went to Paterno's home, where he reported what he had seen."

    But the alleged victim of the shower rape never came forward, and, according to the prosecutors, his identity was known "only to God." Days after the presentment, McQueary wrote in an email to the attorney general's office that they had "slightly twisted his words" and, "I cannot say 1000 percent sure that it was sodomy. I did not see insertion."

    On top of that, all the witnesses the grand jury presentment claimed that McQueary reported to them "what he had seen," the anal rape of a 10-year-old boy, plus another witness cited by McQueary, a doctor who was a longtime family friend, have all repeatedly denied McQueary told them he ever witnessed an anal rape when they testified in court.

    "I've never had a rape case successfully prosecuted based only on sounds, and without credible victims and witnesses," Snedden told Big Trial. He also described the Freeh Report as "an embarrassment to law enforcement."

    At the same time Snedden was investigating Penn State, former FBI Director Louis Freeh was writing his report on the Penn State scandal, a report commissioned by the university, at a staggering cost of $8.3 million.

    Freeh concluded there had been a cover up. His report also found a “striking lack of empathy for child abuse victims by the most senior leaders of the university,” which included Spanier, who had repeatedly been severely beaten by his father as a child. Freeh found that Spanier, Paterno, along with Schultz, the former Penn State vice president and Curley, the school’s ex-athletic director, “repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky’s child abuse from the authorities.”

    But critics such as the minority trustees have noted that the ex-FBI director reached his conclusions without his investigators ever talking to Paterno, Schultz, Curley, McQueary or Sandusky. Freeh only talked to Spanier briefly, at the end of his investigation. And confidential records viewed by the trustees show that Freeh’s own people disagreed with his conclusions.

    According to those records, Freeh's own staff reviewed a May 21, 2012 draft of the Freeh Report, which was subsequently turned over to Penn State officials. The lead paragraph of the draft said, “At the time of the alleged sexual assaults by Jerry Sandusky, there was a culture and environment in the Penn State Athletic Department that led staff members to fail to identify or act on observed inappropriate conduct by Sandusky.”

    The draft report talked about an environment of fear that affected even a janitor who supposedly saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in the showers in 2000: “There existed an environment within the athletic department that led an employee to determine that the perceived threat of losing his job outweighed the necessity of reporting the violent crime of a child.”

    Over that paragraph in the draft report, a handwritten note said, “NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!” Freeh, however, in his final version, included that charge about the janitor who allegedly saw Sandusky assault another boy in the showers but was so fearful he didn’t report it.

    But when the state police interviewed that janitor, Jim Calhoun, he stated three times that it wasn’t Sandusky he had seen sexually abusing a boy. [The state police didn’t ask Calhoun who was the alleged assailant.] At Sandusky’s trial, however, the jury convicted the ex-coach of that crime, in part because his defense lawyer never told the jury about the janitor’s interview with the state police.

    In a written statement, Freeh confirmed that the person who wrote “NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!” was one of his guys.

    "Throughout the review at the Pennsylvania State University, members of the Freeh team were encouraged to speak freely and to challenge any factual assertions that they believed are not supported," Freeh wrote on Jan. 10, 2018.

    "Indeed the factual assertions of the report were tested and vetted over a period of many months and, as new evidence was uncovered, some of the factual assertions and conclusions evolved," he wrote. "Our staff debated, refined and reformed our views even in the final hours before the report's release."

    In another handwritten note on the draft of the report, somebody wrote that there was "no evidence" to support Freeh's contention that a flawed football culture was to blame for the Sandusky sex scandal.

    "Freeh knew the evidence did not support this," the executive summary says. But in his final report, Freeh wrote about "A culture of reverence for the football program that is ingrained at all levels of the campus community."

    While Freeh concluded there was a coverup at Penn State, his investigators weren’t so sure, according to records cited by the trustees in their executive summary. On March 7, 2012, in a conference call, Kathleen McChesney, a former FBI agent who was one of Freeh’s senior investigators, noted that they had found “no smoking gun to indicate [a] cover-up.”

    In a written statement to this reporter, Freeh claimed that shortly after McChesney made that observation, his investigators found “the critical ‘smoking gun’ evidence” in a 2001 “email trove among Schultz, Curley and Spanier.”

    In that email chain, conducted over Penn State’s own computer system, the administrators discussed confronting Sandusky about his habit of showering with children at Penn State facilities, and telling him to stop, rather than report him to officials at The Second Mile, as well as the state Department of Public Welfare.

    In the email chain, Curley described the strategy as a “more humane approach” that included an offer to provide Sandusky with counseling. Spanier agreed, but wrote, “The only downside for us if the message isn’t ‘heard’ and acted upon [by Sandusky] and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it.”

    Curley subsequently told Sandusky to stop bringing children into Penn State facilities, and informed officials at The Second Mile about the 2001 shower incident. But Penn State didn’t inform the state Department of Public Welfare about Sandusky, which Freeh claimed was the smoking gun.

    The Freeh investigation, critics say, never adequately resolved that contradiction. In their executive report, the trustees refer to the allegations of a cover up as "unfounded."

    By definition, however, a cover-up needs a crime to hide. And Penn State’s administrators have repeatedly testified that when McQueary told them about the 2001 shower incident, he described it as horseplay.


    And an earlier 1998 shower incident, referred to by Freeh, was also investigated by multiple authorities, who found no crime, nor any evidence of sex abuse.

    Freeh, however, claimed that a trio of college administrators should have caught an alleged serial pedophile who had already been cleared by the Penn State police, the Centre County District Attorney, as well as a psychologist and an investigator from Centre County’s Department of Children and Youth Services. To buy into the conclusions of the Freeh Report, you’d also have to believe that Penn State’s top officials were dumb enough to plot a cover up on the university’s own computers.

    Freeh, however, maintained that in the six years since he issued his report, its findings have been repeatedly validated in court.

    "The Freeh team's investigative interviews and fact-finding were not biased and no outcome was ever predetermined," Freeh wrote. "Their only mandate, to which they adhered, was to follow the evidenced wherever it led. The final report I issued is a reflection of this mandate."

    "The accuracy and sustainability of the report is further evidenced by the criminal convictions of Spanier, Schultz, Curley," Freeh wrote. Other developments that verified the conclusions of his report, Freeh wrote, include "voluntary dismissals by the Paterno Family of their suit against the NCAA, Spanier's dismissal of his defamation suit against Freeh, the jury and court findings in the McQueary defamation and whistleblower cases, and the U.S. Department of Education's five-year investigation resulting in a record fine against Penn State."

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