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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by IBOFightBack View Post
    Yes, I did manage to register a new Amway business in Australia (not the business I qualified at a much higher level for) and qualify it for a bonus without even having been in the country for 8 years and buying precisely zero products.
    Yet you gave away your higher level precious Amway business in an apparent divorce settlement. Uh huh.

    My name isn't Steve. Keep it up and you can earn yourself a "timeout" from this forum.

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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Yet you gave away your higher level precious Amway business in an apparent divorce settlement. Uh huh.
    Nope, not exactly how that worked out either. Not that it's any of your business.

    My name isn't Steve. Keep it up and you can earn yourself a "timeout" from this forum.
    I'll be taking one soon anyway, Steven. Or is it Stephen?

    You seem to have forgotten you admitted it. I'm pretty certain I still have PDFs of all the pages and comments you deleted from your website. Do you really want me to dig them up and publish them? Frankly I don't want to, too much work, but I could be pushed.

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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by IBOFightBack View Post
    I'll be taking one soon anyway, Steven. Or is it Stephen?

    You seem to have forgotten you admitted it.
    Nope. I'll wager you $50,000 USD that my name isn't Steve, Steven, Stephen or anything close to that. Put up or shut up.

    Big talker are you? Time to stop the talk and walk the walk.

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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Yet you gave away your higher level precious Amway business in an apparent divorce settlement. Uh huh.

    My name isn't Steve. Keep it up and you can earn yourself a "timeout" from this forum.
    Well, off come the gloves!

    This should be interesting.
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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Nope. I'll wager you $50,000 USD that my name isn't Steve, Steven, Stephen or anything close to that. Put up or shut up.

    Big talker are you? Time to stop the talk and walk the walk.
    Add to that the proviso that you never go by any of those names (heck, my grandfather john's name was actually colin, but he never used it), and that you are the proprietor of the various "joecool" anti-amway blogs and we might have a deal.

    Put the money in an escrow account, post certified proof that it's there, then I'll do the same and we can proceed with proof. How's that sound? :sun_smiley:
    Last edited by IBOFightBack; 07-17-2012 at 06:22 PM.

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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Originally Posted by Joecool44
    Nope. I'll wager you $50,000 USD that my name isn't Steve, Steven, Stephen or anything close to that. Put up or shut up.
    Go for it. Show me your escrow account. My name isn't Steve, Steven or Stephen. I don't use any of those names. My last name isn't Nakamura. Do you actually have any proof of your absurd claims? I know my own identity.

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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Nope. I'll wager you $50,000 USD that my name isn't Steve, Steven, Stephen or anything close to that. Put up or shut up.

    Big talker are you? Time to stop the talk and walk the walk.
    Well, I know I'm not holding my breath!
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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Go for it. Show me your escrow account. My name isn't Steve, Steven or Stephen. I don't use any of those names. My last name isn't Nakamura. Do you actually have any proof of your absurd claims? I know my own identity.
    ...St,erJoe...you forgot one of the parameters...

    Quote Originally Posted by IBOFB
    and that you are the proprietor of the various "joecool" anti-amway blogs and we might have a deal.
    You left that part out WTH?!, (bob, weave, misdirect)as usual.
    Last edited by ohein56; 07-18-2012 at 11:04 AM.
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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Go for it. Show me your escrow account.
    Now Steve (pending the other proviso), you show me yours and I'll show you mine. :

    You're the one challenging for the bet, not me. Personally I don't think you can cover your big mouth, so I'm obviously not going to waste my time and money on a bet I don't believe you can do.

    But heck, why even waste our time? You where kind enough to inform everyone of my identity, so clearly you think it's just fine for us to know each other's identities.

    So why don't you just save us all the trouble and tell us who you are?

    You don't have anything to hide do you?

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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    ...St,erJoe...you forgot one of the perameters...
    You left that part out WTH?!, (bob, weave, misdirect)as usual.
    Shut your trap. I made the same wager with you and you ran with your tail tucked.

  11. #267

    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by ohein56 View Post
    You left that part out WTH?!, (bob, weave, misdirect)as usual.
    Actually, I wouldn't be surprised that if after all the info about him got published he changed his name, so he could be telling the truth, though being deceitful, in saying his name wasn't Steve N....
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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Shut your trap. I made the same wager with you and you ran with your tail tucked.
    Gee, someone's getting a little touchy.

    Banks are still open there aren't they? How long do you expect we have to wait before you can get this set up?

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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by IBOFightBack View Post
    But heck, why even waste our time? You where kind enough to inform everyone of my identity, so clearly you think it's just fine for us to know each other's identities.
    The difference is that I know your identity along with all the blog world. You "think" you know my identity. You have no clue.

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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    The difference is that I know your identity along with all the blog world. You "think" you know my identity. You have no clue.
    Oh, and obviously when dealing with significant amounts of money we'll need a formal agreement. Let me know when your lawyer has that written up. I'm happy for it to be posted here for comment.

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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    So this is a different Joecool, huh? What an amazing coincidence.

    How's that agreement and escrow account coming along?

    Anonymous said...
    JoeCool is Steve N.... and his wife is N.....

    Right Joe?

    JUNE 17, 2008 10:45 AM

    John said...
    joecool is steve n.... and lives with his wife in ..... . He works on the campus of the university of ..... as an auditor and is employed with ..... auditing. he used to be in amway under harimoto and he was downline from a direct leg under the name of yanagawa from california and had a designated upline who he counseled with on oahu.

    SEPTEMBER 4, 2008 2:18 PM

    Joecool said...
    So you know a little bit about me. Big deal, what are you going to do, show up at my house for tea and crumpets?

    SEPTEMBER 9, 2008 11:01 AM
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    Re: Amway worse for IBO's than the Madoff scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    Shut your trap. I made the same wager with you and you ran with your tail tucked.
    Please, I'm still here slappin you upside the head...also, I don't care, you do.

    Your identity is YOUR big 'SECRET' BFD...

    I just love watchin you squirm, ya lying hypocrite...
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