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  1. #81
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    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    I've been with GCFN for over 3 years now. and let me tell ya something...It was THE best decision I have ever made.

    Some of these posts are flooring me. Let me speak to those of you that are so disatisfied...
    1) You're looking for a quick fix. Ain't gonna find it here or anywhere unless you win the lottery.

    2) Sounds like some of you haven't taken the time to even read the material...If you would take a class in college, open the book once and thought it was boring, would you state that the info contained in the book was all b.s? I doubt it. You'd study, and study some more. This is a training process, one you CAN make money with while learning. Any occupation takes time to learn...even working at McDonalds. Do you think you'd know how to do everything in a day or two or the first day on the job? No. So why should this training be any different to learn?

    3) I feel your biggest problem is that when you get the material, it's overwhelming, in turn, you aren't giving yourself a chance to even learn it. If you go step by step, at your own pace, it works. Period.
    I've had more doors of opportunity opened for me since I started this excellent program. I have two businesses, I know how to place the media, thanks to Global, and it gets better every single day.
    Am I rich? Hell no. An Internet business takes time, effort and determination AND investing time. Am I making a decent living? Hell yes! But even more than that, I took a chance on myself for a change. My confidence shoots through the roof, I love what I'm doing plus, you never stop learning. The free bonuses Global gives you is worth ten x's the amount you pay for tuition. Tuition, key word. Not free money falling out of the manuals when opened...

    Believe me, I was skeptical like all you guys. But...if you don't work the program you'll never get anywhere. Once I decided to get the money part out of my head, the more I learned, the more creative I became and success started following...

    It seems to me the only focus here is all on the money and not what you need to learn to get that money rolling in. It takes some Internet busineses a long time to get off the ground because there is so much to learn. But if you're not willing to put the time in then I guess you would cry scam.

    For those of us who have taken the time, invested in ourselves and applied what Global has taught us well, we are on our way! We are living our dreams and boy it feels pretty good!
    It's a shame that some of you don't trust yourself enough to give this a chance. Good luck to you.

  2. #82
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    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    did you even read what i wrote many nights til 3am im not looking to get rich but 10 lousy dollars for all those hours and thousands of visitors and the lies i was told nobody better believe the corporate crap that spews out of your mouth as for the manual the majority of that crap is available on the internet for free dont do it!!!!!!!!

  3. #83

    Re: WHAT DOES A CMPs DO ANYWAY? I'VE BEEN HAD!

    i did too last year bought the program to be a CPM. they say you can get your money back, but only after you follow, what was it, 21 steps? you have to prove to them that you have completed the steps and then try to get a refund. i just abandoned it. didn't even try to get the cash back since i had to invest more in advertising, etc.

  4. #84
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    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    Thank you for a reasoned responce to the "clueless."
    This is a quote from an earlier post, "...just because you made money on this site, doesn't legitimize it." I'm sorry, am I the only one missing something here. If you invest in an online business and manage to cover your investment with online income, at the very least, you breakeven, hopefully with some significant knowledge about how to develope a new stream of income in this realitively new business model. If you make a few bucks, you've even paid for the education. If your income against time invested is profitable, then you're ahead of the game. Depending on the profitabilty ratio, you develope it or maintain it while developing other streams of income. Eventually you are you are out of the nine to five world.

    I am a long haul truck driver, which means I drive all over the US. I am currently invested in two online business programs; Mary Gersten and Jeff Paul. I am making money with both programs, but not enough to quit driving truck, which is my goal. I am only 3 months into both programs and will post my progress at the end of July.
    Quote Originally Posted by omniscient1 View Post
    I find this still rather hilarious. I posted several weeks ago in reply to some of the same things that are being (re)stated on this thread. Some of you people are clueless, and I dare say, that makes you laughable.

    I live in the area, I bank right near the address. As has been stated on a different thread on this site. (look up the old thread for the details) This business is actually located at 2020 Mill in Tempe, AZ. I haven't been back to the location since I actually went and inquired with a business named "Dino's" in the same business building. But I can only assume that they didn't suddenly move, and I know for a fact that there isn't a UPS store anywhere near the address. Since it is the same old "drivel" from a few "experts" that post on this site, I find it hilarious.

    Having over 30 years as a business owner, some of you need to get a clue. When you research a business, why not go to a reputable source? As I read through many of the different posts on this site, I find it rather amazing that there are lots of people who feel free to express their opinion, based on anything but first hand knowledge or facts. If you have actual information that proves this or any of the businesses that are referred to on this site, then by all means...let the world know. Nobody should be scammed out of their money.

    That actually raises a question. Just exactly what constitutes a scam? I've bought into several different business programs through the years. Not one of them was a scam. Some of them I made money, some of them I didn't. The fact that I didn't make any money from all of them does not mean it was a scam. I have friends that have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on franchises such as Subway, Quiznos, McDonald's, etc, that couldn't make any money at it. By the standards that this board is establishing, those business entities would all be scams as well.

    The establishment and profitability of any business is dependant on far more than just paying for the business. There are variables such as marketing, employees, the service or goods being offered, political, social and economic factors all have a major impact on whether or not a business will succeed or fail. And this didn't even take into account the fact that the person that starts the business can't just set it on a shelf, or rely on others to run the business. You will have to put some blood sweat and tears into a business to make it profitable.

    This leads me to another point. If I offered a legitimate business, regardless of what that business is. And if I had a bunch of individuals that were "slandering" my business, and making accusations that could be disproven with very little effort required. I'd probably have to contact an attorney and start going after the responsible individuals for the defamation of my name or my business. I don't know what the possibilities for reclaiming damages from these individuals, but I would certainly think that the loss of revenue both present and future would be something that could be recouped. If there are any attorneys on this site, reading some of the nonsense posted here, I would appreciate it if you could shed some light on the subject.

    What this boils down to is this. If you have factual information, you should feel free to post it and prevent others from falling victim to any scam. (I believe this would protect you from any potential litigation. Assuming true facts are being presented) If you have an opinion, feel free to post it. Just make sure it is known that it is your opinion. (Once again, to protect yourself) If you just feel like demeaning the name of somebody with no factual basis, you could be opening yourself up to consequences that will far outweigh the "importance" you feel by acting like a well-informed "expert" on this forum.

    So here is my opinion, some of you need to do some actual investigating prior to posting inaccuracies. Many of you need to realize that somebody with much deeper pockets can and often times will come after you for making false accusations about their name or their business. (Look at Donald Trump and Rosie O'Donnell... I think it's obvious who will win that one.)

    This is fact. Just because you can't make something work, doesn't mean it is a scam. There are too many variables to list, but I believe the current statistics state that over 90% of all new businesses fail. (I feel safe to state that all of those businesses that failed weren't scams)

    I welcome your response to my comments. My only request is that you address the issue(s). I don't claim to have all of the facts, I just know that the "facts" several of you are claiming are not true. I don't know how this company works, I can't represent them as a business entity since I don't know anything more than what I found out when I spoke to a fellow tenant of theirs, and what I have read on the web. If you have questions about their business, contact them. Don't rely on some silly post from somebody that claims to have knowledge of that which doesn't exist.

  5. #85
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    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    I'm sorry, but this responce makes absolutly no sense to me. You are responding to someone who has made money with this site and telling them that doesn't mean it's not a scam. You suggest they might be scamming you with "deceptive...business practices," but admit you are not saying they are??? Logically none of what you say makes sense unless you are someone who has always considered themselves a "victim." quote=dalijon;260146]Monda,

    The fact that you made money at it doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't a scam. If the business is deceptive in their business practices (which I'm not saying that the company is question is -- I don't really know), then the fact that you made money doesn't somehow legitimize the business.[/quote]

  6. #86

    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    I posted the following report under Global Cash Flow Networks:
    Re: Is Global Cash Flow Network a scam



    I would be very careful. I made the mistake of signing up for a course last Sunday (14th June). I then researched the company (more fool me for doing it in reverse!). On the basis of what I found out I emailed a cancellation to them one hour after placing the order.
    Since then I have sent 4 emails. Their staff deny having received my request. The are now giving me the run-around deliberately trying to avoid cancelling.
    They are extremely difficult to deal with. There are many more other and better organisation out there. Take your time, search for a better option.
    Good luck.
    Since posting the above I have written to the Arizona Attorney General - Global Cash Flow Networks are still refusing to accept my cancellation and refusing to acknowledge receipt of my emails.
    Stay well away from them - they are vipers!

  7. #87
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    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    Saved by my CAT!!! :
    I was offered this program as a OTO (one time offer) from something else I bought (from a different company. I guess they are JV partners) dealing with Internet Marketing. The essence of OTO is you only get the chance to buy at this price $298 only once and then it's gone forever. Well like everyone else the program seemed interesting, but I resisted and tried to log off the page and guess what happened. I was offered a Last Chance Offer by CMP for only $67.00. Well from $298 to $67 I could not resist. Before I could get my Info, CC in the Buy Form my Cat jumped on the computer and knocked it off the webpage and I could not get back to it even through Searching History. I searched on Google to try and find the page again and that is how I arrived here. I just had to sign up and tell you the story. Maybe animals do have a sixth sense after reading what I have read here. I didn't expect the promises they made , but for $67 I thought I could pick up some useful info. Being a Student of Internet Marketing I realize you could get the product for next to nothing, because NOW your in their Sales Funnel and they have all your info etc... and subject you to the phone calls etc.. for the Heavy Big Buck selling closers. It's typical of IM marketing today because it works. Sorry, to those who paid $298. I'm not judging if the program works or not, but I must say I LOVE MY CAT. :liefde:His name is Blacktop. Maybe I should take him to the track...;-)
    Good Luck!

  8. #88
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    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    Hey Kerry,
    I love your Checklist. Do you mind me using it on my Blog if I ever get it going?
    Read my post at the bottom (posted 6-24-09) if you want to have a laugh.
    Thanks

  9. #89
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    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    I looked on the UPS website and the closest UPS Store that exists in Tempe Arizona is close to the address listed, but not quite. It is:

    1753 E BROADWAY, STE #101
    TEMPE, AZ 85282 - USA
    Pack & Ship Promise Location*
    Phone: (480)829-3900

    This is directly from the UPSStore website. So set that record straight. They do not operate out of a UPS store. WHy can't anyone do their own research. I have not bought the program, and was considering it. However, after reading these comments I am looking to ward other things. But is the reason you are not going to buy into it is because of the UPS thing, realize that that argument is as bogus as they claim the company is. Rely on yourself, not others who order things, never use them, and then just hope to get their money back.

    I ask, why order something with the hopes of simply returning it?

    Start your own business, it's more gratifying and controllable.

    Just my thoughts.

    BTW the UPS Store website where I got this infor is: Click here.

  10. #90

    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    This is a scam, plain and simple. Apparently one supposed "lawyer" that doesn't provide his own information, one person that supposedly made money in the pyramid scheme (which there are always the few who benefit, especially getting in early so they get paid by everyone else) and The company themselves posting. All of which are more than likely the same exact person. I'd be interested for the moderators to compare the IP addresses.

    Somehow these anonymous posters are attempting to provide the counter weight to the BBB, no state registration, and shady contact information. I'm honestly surprised none of the posters put their own "website" link up in an attempt to show you how legitimate their overpriced cookie cutter websites were.


    Given that the lawyers don't actually give their information but keep it as vague as possible, they are likely frauds. If not I entirely welcome them to send me a letter complete with letterhead and information regarding the company so I and my lawyer friends can review it....yeah I didn't think so.


    Hope no one lost too much money in the process.


    [quote=larryorr;759411]I'm sorry, but this responce makes absolutly no sense to me. You are responding to someone who has made money with this site and telling them that doesn't mean it's not a scam. You suggest they might be scamming you with "deceptive...business practices," but admit you are not saying they are??? Logically none of what you say makes sense unless you are someone who has always considered themselves a "victim." quote=dalijon;260146]


    Did you actually read anything you wrote?
    Last edited by liquidglass; 07-17-2009 at 04:25 AM.

  11. #91

    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    Liquidglass......appears larryorr didn't understand your post ....I did.

    The CMPS "organization" is rife with fraud.....someone, maybe the Attorney General of Arizona, should shut 'em down.

    Don't understand how they've managed to stay in biz all this time.

    Oh well ....your post and all the adminstrator's postings will, hopefully, prevent a number of people falling victim to the CMPS scam.

  12. #92

    Scam, Pure and Simple!

    One day I received a phone call from Global Cash Flow Network, but I was confused at first because they named a good site, that I had joined 6 months ago and I really like. After 10 minute of conversation I finally realized that this is another site, but I decided to give it a try because:

    1. A full refund after one year trial
    2. As a platinum member they promised to build two sites for me.

    So, I joined as platinum member for $429
    Soon I received a package with a big folder (about 500 pages) with poor black and white quality xerox tutorial and agreement, W-9. The same day I received 3 phone calls from them - they wanted me to fill out and fax those form asap, so they could activate my sites.

    I was disappointed at first when I saw my 2 sites (that they promised to build for me)
    mywebcashstore.com
    24hourwebcash.com

    It was affiliate links, so all my time and effort that I would spend to promote these sites would bring money and traffic to them.
    I put some banners and articles on my sites to make them a little unique and monetize them and started to read their manuals.

    After a couple of days I received another call from their customer support - they offered me another Magic program 'The Ultimate Traffic System'
    Now they promised 20 000 targeted visitors for ONLY $5000??!!
    After a 15 minute conversation they lowered the price to $2500 but to get this deal I should act immediately. They guaranteed that if they fall 1 visitor short in my 3 month campaign, they will rerun my traffic Campaign at no cost to me!

    I asked if they have a written guarantee but they said they will send it AFTER I pay.
    I refused to pay until I saw the contract, so finally they emailed it to me. When I read it I just laughed. See for yourself:
    This is just a small but VERY IMPORTANT PART of their agreement

    ...And the best part is you're about to get started with the "Ultimate Traffic System" right now... plus, your bonus visitors will start being directed to your site in short order

    ...I realize I will receive my start up materials, step- by-step instructions, and tutorials revealing all your trade secrets that will show me how to generate leads, traffic and build a business. I agree to pay for this information and education and as a BONUS to this education, you're going to give me the designated amount of visitors in the quarter along with access to your Global Direct Mailer System so I can learn by doing instead of just getting "book smart" without real world experience. In fact, this additional bonus could give me an even greater potential to double or triple my earnings potential and is one of the unique methodologies for creating more leads and potential sales. Of course I realize that just like with every legitimate business there is still risk and anyone who says they "guarantee" me success is full of it because my success depends on me properly executing the training and education you'll give me...

    Wait a minute! That means they will send you another huge manual and those 20 000 visitors is just a bonus?!
    So I called the sales rep and said I don't want to work with dishonest people and I want my money back or I will file a claim thru my credit card.

    Also I got 3 or 4 phone calls from other sales rep about the same 'The Ultimate Traffic System'
    The next week I got 2 phone calls from them - they offered another (THE BEST) site, that I would be trained by person who had personally trained Mary Gerston.
    The price was the same - $5000.
    they gave me the site: prosperitybasedliving.com

    I don't know how many total sites they have. Probably they have an army of aggressive and well trained sales reps and customer support people who don't care about you but only about selling you something.

    Please, don't join this site. This is a SCAM, pure and simple!
    I've spent thousands on training, programs
    and "systems" in the past and the content and
    presentation HERE is worth 10 times as much
    as anything I've ever bought...Click Here Now
    ______________________________________

    Earn Money Just For Participating

  13. #93

    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    One day I received a phone call from Global Cash Flow Network, but I was confused at first because they named a good site, that I had joined 6 months ago and I really like. After 10 minute of conversation I finally realized that this is another site, but I decided to give it a try because:

    1. A full refund after one year trial
    2. As a platinum member they promised to build two sites for me.

    So, I joined as platinum member for $429
    Soon I received a package with a big folder (about 500 pages) with poor black and white quality xerox tutorial and agreement, W-9. The same day I received 3 phone calls from them - they wanted me to fill out and fax those form asap, so they could activate my sites.

    I was disappointed at first when I saw my 2 sites (that they promised to build for me)
    mywebcashstore.com
    24hourwebcash.com

    It was affiliate links, so all my time and effort that I would spend to promote these sites would bring money and traffic to them.
    I put some banners and articles on my sites to make them a little unique and monetize them and started to read their manuals.

    After a couple of days I received another call from their customer support - they offered me another Magic program 'The Ultimate Traffic System'
    Now they promised 20 000 targeted visitors for ONLY $5000??!!
    After a 15 minute conversation they lowered the price to $2500 but to get this deal I should act immediately. They guaranteed that if they fall 1 visitor short in my 3 month campaign, they will rerun my traffic Campaign at no cost to me!

    I asked if they have a written guarantee but they said they will send it AFTER I pay.
    I refused to pay until I saw the contract, so finally they emailed it to me. When I read it I just laughed. See for yourself:
    This is just a small but VERY IMPORTANT PART of their agreement

    ...And the best part is you're about to get started with the "Ultimate Traffic System" right now... plus, your bonus visitors will start being directed to your site in short order

    ...I realize I will receive my start up materials, step- by-step instructions, and tutorials revealing all your trade secrets that will show me how to generate leads, traffic and build a business. I agree to pay for this information and education and as a BONUS to this education, you're going to give me the designated amount of visitors in the quarter along with access to your Global Direct Mailer System so I can learn by doing instead of just getting "book smart" without real world experience. In fact, this additional bonus could give me an even greater potential to double or triple my earnings potential and is one of the unique methodologies for creating more leads and potential sales. Of course I realize that just like with every legitimate business there is still risk and anyone who says they "guarantee" me success is full of it because my success depends on me properly executing the training and education you'll give me...

    Wait a minute! That means they will send you another huge manual and those 20 000 visitors is just a bonus?!
    So I called the sales rep and said I don't want to work with dishonest people and I want my money back or I will file a claim thru my credit card.

    Also I got 3 or 4 phone calls from other sales rep about the same 'The Ultimate Traffic System'
    The next week I got 2 phone calls from them - they offered another (THE BEST) site, that I would be trained by person who had personally trained Mary Gerston.
    The price was the same - $5000.
    they gave me the site: prosperitybasedliving.com

    I don't know how many total sites they have. Probably they have an army of aggressive and well trained sales reps and customer support people who don't care about you but only about selling you something.

    Please, don't join this site. This is a SCAM, pure and simple!
    I've spent thousands on training, programs
    and "systems" in the past and the content and
    presentation HERE is worth 10 times as much
    as anything I've ever bought...Click Here Now
    ______________________________________

    Earn Money Just For Participating

  14. #94

    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    Since posting my original post I have had my money refunded by Global Cash Flow Network.
    Normally, this would be taken as a sign of the trustworthness of an organisation. Considering they denied ever receiving emails from me (despite mail delivery reports) this company could never be viewed as trustworthy. They spent an awful lot of time and energy in trying to avoid paying.
    Someone sent me a copy of the course they provide for the $300+. This so-called course is a collection of material freely available on the internet. It is simply an encouragement to participate in Affiliate Marketing. The course material is probably the least beneficial I've ever seen. Anyone considering joining would do better by going to Clickbank and reading the material provided there - IT'S FREE.
    Don't waste your money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Dick View Post
    I posted the following report under Global Cash Flow Networks:
    Re: Is Global Cash Flow Network a scam




    I would be very careful. I made the mistake of signing up for a course last Sunday (14th June). I then researched the company (more fool me for doing it in reverse!). On the basis of what I found out I emailed a cancellation to them one hour after placing the order.
    Since then I have sent 4 emails. Their staff deny having received my request. The are now giving me the run-around deliberately trying to avoid cancelling.
    They are extremely difficult to deal with. There are many more other and better organisation out there. Take your time, search for a better option.
    Good luck.
    Since posting the above I have written to the Arizona Attorney General - Global Cash Flow Networks are still refusing to accept my cancellation and refusing to acknowledge receipt of my emails.
    Stay well away from them - they are vipers!

  15. #95
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    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    I was curious about this program when I saw it advertised so I applied. I got a call from one of their people who asked me a few benign questions and then turned me over to one of their salespeople after I listened to an audio presentation.

    However, before I hung up, I got answers from her that indicated to me that they would teach me to place media for which I would get paid. What media? - adwords, classifieds, email ads, etc., etc. And who would pay for the ads that were not free? - me. And what would the ads be advertising? - their company.

  16. #96

    Re: Certified Media Placement Specialist BS or NOT

    "Certified Media Placement Specialist" is the new alias for "Affiliate Marketing," which is DEAD on the Internet. Affiliate Marketing is no longer a system that new people can profit by because it is completely monopolized by those who have mastered SEO and PPC. Google and other search engines , and advertising outlets are no longer tolerant of affiliate activities, and have designed their algorithms to stifle these activities or make you pay dearly if you use them.

    I told them up front I was not inetrested in "Advertising" or "Affiliate Marketing." Been there, done that!

    By what I was being told I thought this was simply placing or otherwise uploading media (video, audio) to various websites for businesses. Hence, MEDIA PLACEMENT! No mention of advertising or it's corresponding costs (which I am fully and painfully aware of.)

    This is clearly a scam, and it is evident by the fact that they are not using the established terminology for what they are doing. They have changed the name simply to dupe new people into believing they can make money with an already dead system, and they are profiting at it by making it almost non-refundable. It indeed, is non-refundable for $30.00 in shipping to send a packet that only cost $5.00 to ship.

    That's a guaranteed $25.00 sale for them regardless if anybody decides to try it or get out of it.

    They do not reveal the "Affiliate Marketing" nature of the program until you have agreed to work it for 12mos, without a refund until the 12mos is over. Most people will give up their money or become discouraged that they can make it work.

    It will cost you a small fortune to even make the smallest results. They will upsell you hard on additional tools and addons to make it work. If you do not invest this small fortune and do what they suggest, you will lose your initial investment based on their contractual clause that you have to try to make the system work.

    This contractual clause is psychologically designed to leave out the details of what you will really need to invest (time/energy/money) to see results, while obligating you to these further unknown investments. The investment is large because it includes you having a huge sophisticated learning curve of marketing knowledge and technique, as well as advertising costs. The kind that has already monopolized the Internet.

    Now the big business push on the Internet is to get people to pay for the advertising of businesses through recruiting "Affiliate Marketers," and this is done by cutting everybody in on a piece of the action. You pay to advertise their business, and if you are as good as the established dominant players, you may see small profit from your sales effort. However, you will lose much if you are not as good as these players, and it requires a HUGE amount of INVESTMENT to even figure out what they are doing and to have any chance of competing.

    The businesses who are selling the products don't care about you because they have thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people around the world already putting up their advertising dollars and time to make those businesses successful. They have leveraged the masses to pay their advertising costs, and only the few really smart and established seasoned Affiliate Marketers will make any money doing it. Herein lies the losses for the majority. It's like drug lords, drug dealers, and drug users, only the big players survive and got out of jail for free, everybody else loses. Gambling is also like this. Many are used for the profit of a few.

    While these techniques are not unethical, and can work, the point is that what is left out is YOUR FURTHER INVESTMENT SCOPE! Plus, I don't like new words put on existing ideas in order to trick me into buying or investing into them. The only reason anyone does that, is because they know the truth about the old term, and what it means to the unsuspecting subject. I call it DECEPTION and LYING. Or simply, SCAM!
    Last edited by DigESource; 05-26-2010 at 11:33 AM.

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