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  1. #97

    Re: IS THIS A SCAM!!!?? what do u think???

    They are a SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't send any money. Nigerian Scam or 419 Scam. FBI, FTC, and no local authorities will help you. Just igore the emails and move on.

  2. #98
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    Re: IS THIS A SCAM!!!?? what do u think???

    OMG!!! thanks guys... i was ganna go threw with this one... i was researching cars and i saw 2 hondas for under 6,000 and i was like wow... then they both sent me simular emails... here they are

    Hello

    Sorry for delay.

    First of all thank you for your e-mail regarding my car. It's a great car.?My husband is devastated that we have to sell it but we have to pay too much money for register it here in Europe, so we decide to sell it. My company have relations in USA and i worked there for 2 years.
    The car was purchased from US, so it is US standards, so stay cool it's perfect
    compatible to your standards and you will not pay more duty taxes on it.
    And this is an impediment for me to sell it here because, first, we have a different
    standards and second will be very expensive for me to register it here. I have to
    pay an very expensive duty taxes.The price for this car is $5,000.00USD .
    The car it is still register in States.
    What other info. would you like on it?
    It will be shipped from London, United Kingdom and i will pay the shipping and insurance charges. I will do the arrangements for shipping from here.

    The payment will be done via secure pay which means that the third party will keep the money until you will receive and inspect the car.
    I will wait for your email to let me know if you are interested in knowing more details
    about the purchase



    AND THIS ONE!!!


    Hello,

    Thank you for your interest regarding my car. First of all i wanna tell
    you
    some details about the car. The pick up is not available as for the
    moment
    I'm not in USA. Right now I am in London, U.K. I am trying to make a
    new
    life in here cause my wife wants to be closer to her family. So only
    the
    shipping option can be used. The car is presenting in a very good
    condition,
    no damage or defects, it looks just the way showed in my pics, it is
    stored
    in a shipping garage. NON SMOKER!. I realise that is a cheap price for
    such
    a product but my special situation makes me do things that i would't do
    in
    normal circumstances and belive me it is not easy at all for me to sell
    a
    thing which was one of my dreams during last years. The price I hope to
    obtain is US$4500, the shipping is free.
    I overlooked the website to see how it can be done securely and I
    noticed
    that most sellers to close the deal with a third part.I have to decide
    to
    use for third party Safepay Solutions.The down payment will be done via
    secure pay which means that the third party will keep the money until
    you
    receive and inspect the car. You have 10 days to inspect the car.

    Waiting for your reply !

    Thank you and have a nice day


    i was a student and i was saving up for a car like this... and to imagine i would have lost every single penny!

  3. #99
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    Is this a scam? Advice please!

    I have a BMW Z3 convertable for sale on craigslist for $16,900. This guy calls, says he's from Victoria (has an accent for sure) and he asks about the car. Then he calls back two days later and says he wants it. I have a lot of photos online of the car and told him everything that was wrong with it, which isn't much. He says he'll fly down Friday and pick it up Saturday and will bring an international money order/ check for it.

    I'm leary because the checks are frequently fraudulent. Our bank says sometimes it can take 50 days for them to find out they are a fraud!

    What do you recommend I tell him he has to do to pay us for this car? We don't want to get ripped off.

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    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by norcalty
    I have a BMW Z3 convertable for sale on craigslist for $16,900. This guy calls, says he's from Victoria (has an accent for sure) and he asks about the car. Then he calls back two days later and says he wants it. I have a lot of photos online of the car and told him everything that was wrong with it, which isn't much. He says he'll fly down Friday and pick it up Saturday and will bring an international money order/ check for it.

    I'm leary because the checks are frequently fraudulent. Our bank says sometimes it can take 50 days for them to find out they are a fraud!

    What do you recommend I tell him he has to do to pay us for this car? We don't want to get ripped off.

    go through an escrow service. http://www.escrow.com
    Tell him that he will need to issue payment through the escrow service prior to taking possession of the car.

    or else bring cold hard cash.

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    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    Can he bring cash? I know he can say it is risky for him, but I have no other idea how to secure your position 100%.

    May be he should get American Express Traveler checks and cash them in your presence on his name(not yours) in participating bank.

    go through an escrow service. http://www.escrow.com
    Tell him that he will need to issue payment through the escrow service prior to taking possession of the car.
    That would work, but I do not think it is a one day process. If he can wait, then it is second best way after cash.
    Last edited by borisf96; 08-25-2006 at 01:07 AM.

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    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    I have a post on this page about being scammed for $5,000.....my son used escrow.com and he lost his money. They are saying he hit on a fraudulent link. He said he was in and out of the website from google before ever purchasing the motorcycle. So I would never trust it.

  7. #103

    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    I also have a vehicle on craigslist and have received nothing but scam inquiries. I would avoid doing anything out of country, even if it seems legit. Unless he can produce cash, which you can verify is not counterfeit at a bank, I would tell him no sale.

  8. #104
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    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by vshaw
    I have a post on this page about being scammed for $5,000.....my son used escrow.com and he lost his money. They are saying he hit on a fraudulent link. He said he was in and out of the website from google before ever purchasing the motorcycle. So I would never trust it.
    I read your post and unfortunately, you didn't provide the acutual emails ( code view/raw text format)

    Did he "click" on a link provided in an email by the "seller" to go to escrow.com? Then he just fell for the oldest scam sent by email. Disuging a FAKE escrow.com site using Escrow.com's graphics.

    Until then, your son just fell for som slick scammers scam by sending your son to a SIGHT he stole, which actually belonged to the SCAMMER and not escrow.com

    Until we get the "whole" story from your side/son, there isn't much we can deduce other than that he was fooled by a site that was staged to look like the escrow.com site (Look up phishing).

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    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    He was in and out of escrow.com through google. thats whats so hard to believe, he didn't click on a link through ebay. He's not a stupid kid when it comes to computers. He's in military Itel..and hisjob IS computers. He checked the site three or four times before transfering the money.And no we don't have any of the emails or any info left because it was all wiped off his PC. The story goes on and on.....good luck

  10. #106

    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by norcalty
    I have a BMW Z3 convertable for sale on craigslist for $16,900. This guy calls, says he's from Victoria (has an accent for sure) and he asks about the car. Then he calls back two days later and says he wants it. I have a lot of photos online of the car and told him everything that was wrong with it, which isn't much. He says he'll fly down Friday and pick it up Saturday and will bring an international money order/ check for it.

    I'm leary because the checks are frequently fraudulent. Our bank says sometimes it can take 50 days for them to find out they are a fraud!

    What do you recommend I tell him he has to do to pay us for this car? We don't want to get ripped off.
    It's all very simple. If he wants the car he has to pay you cash. If he is coming in person to collect the car he can jolly well bring the cash with him, instead of a worthless piece of paper!

    Also, in less than a week, the guy would have disappeared with your car, let alone 50 days.

    What proof do you have of his identity to even consider taking a check (cheque) from him?
    Karma is a Biatch! :yelcutelaughA:

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    The IGNORE feature is the best answer for a FOOL!


  11. #107

    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by vshaw
    I have a post on this page about being scammed for $5,000.....my son used escrow.com and he lost his money. They are saying he hit on a fraudulent link. He said he was in and out of the website from google before ever purchasing the motorcycle. So I would never trust it.
    Well, sorry to hear about this, (I read your other post), but unfortunately, your son could have or may have clicked on a link in the email he received and the site he ended up using was a spoof (fake) site.

    PS: I just read Wizywyg's post and that's pretty much what I was saying.
    Last edited by BAILEYSCREAMS_REVENGE; 08-30-2006 at 11:24 AM.
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  12. #108
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    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by vshaw
    He was in and out of escrow.com through google. thats whats so hard to believe, he didn't click on a link through ebay.
    Again, until we hear from him and he provides the emails, we can only go by what is commonly used by scammers in the game known as phishing. Disguising a site to look like the official site, but in reality, its just a fake site.

    He would have to come here, post the emails and we can conclude from that.

    He's not a stupid kid when it comes to computers. He's in military Itel..and hisjob IS computers. He checked the site three or four times before transfering the money.And no we don't have any of the emails or any info left because it was all wiped off his PC. The story goes on and on.....good luck
    Seriously, I really dont care if his job is "working" with computers. There are many stories about "IT" guys who have fell for scammers and their "official" looking scam sites. You can be a lonely house wife shopping on line, or an IT tech who's been working with "computers all his life" and they will dupe you.

    Due diligence.

    As for your son deleting the emails, then Im sorry, that your he didn't bother to keep them. I have emails dating back to 1991 that I keep for posterity, evidence and contact reasons. Why? because you never know when you will need these emails to save your ass (in which case, it saved mines several times over). You do realize that he deleted all the EVIDENCE he needed should he decide to pursue legal action against those who scammed him. Emails contain important information and that is just not what is in the "body" of the message.

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    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    ALERT No cheques!! Forget about cheques. I have been scammed before with someone who bought an item from me with a cheque. The cheque was rejected by the bank and the person used and damaged the item and I had to collect it back in the state it was and fix the damages. No way will I ever accept a cheque again! :mad:

    My question is: What is the reason someone is not prepared to pay cash if they have it in the bank?
    Last edited by Samtheman; 09-01-2006 at 02:42 PM.

  14. #110

    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizywyg
    Again, until we hear from him and he provides the emails, we can only go by what is commonly used by scammers in the game known as phishing. Disguising a site to look like the official site, but in reality, its just a fake site.

    He would have to come here, post the emails and we can conclude from that.



    Seriously, I really dont care if his job is "working" with computers. There are many stories about "IT" guys who have fell for scammers and their "official" looking scam sites. You can be a lonely house wife shopping on line, or an IT tech who's been working with "computers all his life" and they will dupe you.

    Due diligence.

    As for your son deleting the emails, then Im sorry, that your he didn't bother to keep them. I have emails dating back to 1991 that I keep for posterity, evidence and contact reasons. Why? because you never know when you will need these emails to save your ass (in which case, it saved mines several times over). You do realize that he deleted all the EVIDENCE he needed should he decide to pursue legal action against those who scammed him. Emails contain important information and that is just not what is in the "body" of the message.
    Wizywyg,

    I think VShaw meant was that the information on the whole computer got wiped or cannot be accessed. I don't think she meant her son deleted the emails knowingly. If you use Outlook/Outlook Express, it is possible for your emails to be stolen by a remote malicious hacker using a Trojan horse or other method. Maybe the computer was infected with some malicious code from the email. Anything is possible these days.
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    Re: Is this a scam? Advice please!

    True, He could give you the internation cheque for the car....... or
    he could meet with you to scope the car out; decide to buy it, then he could cash the I.C. in his name while you are both at the bank, then you transfer the 'hard cool cash ' into your own account right there.

    This would mean that at no time does the internation cheque enter your possession nor do you have to take any liability for it. AND you wouldn't have to be, nor either one of you, wanderiing around town with thousand dollar bills sticking out of your jeans for any punk to pilfer.


    WOULDTHATWORK, or am I just whistling Dixie?
    ;)

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    BEWARE OF GROWING USED CAR SCAMS With LOW MARKET PRICES

    WARNING............

    This scam is growing quickly given down economy, so don't fall for the below average price for used vehicles, as they will all be scams, this much you can depend on, but never depend on the word of these scammers no matter what the story, and they always have a story as to why they are not located where the car is suppose to be.

    Simply put, always put phone or email contact information in Google and you will find that same vehicle is posted in several different car for sale sites like Craigslist and Backpage, easy to verify a scam if you simply follow this advice. As example, I was scanning the web looking for a vehicle when I noticed a few lowball prices, so I checked just to see, and sure enough, here is what came up on Google, a dozen different posts on same vehicle all over the country.

    Try it for yourself, enter in phone (385)743-0112 or email for another example of fraud and scams. If you see either of these, run away, they are both scammers and are to be avoided at all cost. [email protected] Of course, never buy a car sight unseen no matter how good of a deal it may be. Also, never use Western Union if requested. Never accept a bank check or money order, if you are doing the selling, easy to fake them these days. Only accept cash or wire transfer into your bank, trust no one and you won't get scammed.

    Success to all,

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