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    Jimmy Carter: Sympathy for the Devil

    MORE Treason from the "worst American ever".....



    Jimmy Carter: Sympathy for the Devil
    David Limbaugh
    Saturday, Aug. 19, 2006


    Want to know where the Democratic Party stands and where America would be under their leadership? Just ask Jimmy Carter.

    Carter is certainly not bashful about bashing the United States, even on foreign soil or to the foreign press. He sat for an interview with Der Spiegel recently and fired with both barrels at President Bush, "fundamentalist" Christians and Israel.

    But do Carter's views represent those of the Democratic Party? Well, he sure seems to think so. He told Der Spiegel, "I think I represent the vast majority of Democrats in this country." If so, that's scary.

    Expanding on the theme of his latest book, "Our Endangered Values," Carter said the Bush administration has abandoned the nation's "old" moral principles. That's a curious concept: By upholding traditional moral values President Bush has diverted the nation's moral course?

    Carter is particularly exercised about Bush's foreign policy. He said: "Under all of its predecessors there was a commitment to peace instead of pre-emptive war. Our country always had a policy of not going to war unless our own security was directly threatened and now we have a new policy of going to war on a pre-emptive basis."

    But no less an antiwar Democrat than Sen. John Kerry – after savaging President Bush for his "pre-emptive" attack of Iraq – admitted in the first presidential debate that "The president always has the right, and always has had the right, for pre-emptive strike. That was a great doctrine throughout the Cold War."

    No matter how persistently Carter's Democrats attempt to rewrite history, President Bush attacked Iraq because he believed it was a threat to America's security – and it was, just as Iran is today. Carter is delusional if he believes Bush was just recreationally flexing America's "imperialistic" muscles to spread democracy.



    The debate here between Democrats and Republicans isn't over the use of pre-emptive war – as Kerry reluctantly confessed – but on the assessment of threats to our national security. Specifically, the debate centers on the parties' respective views of the nature and scope of the terrorist threat, whether Israel is seen as more of a victim surrounded by hostile regimes bent on its destruction or a bullying, aggressive nation, and whether we should defer on these questions to anti-American leaders in Europe and the United Nations.

    Carter states the Democrats' position quite clearly. Islamo-fascist terrorists aren't that bad. They are probably peace-loving people like the rest of us who just have their noses out of joint over Bush's "unilateral" foreign policy and his "pre-emptive" attack on Iraq. Indeed, Carter said the Arab world hates us because we invaded Iraq, and even more so for "supporting and encouraging Israel in its unjustified attack on Lebanon."

    So the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, occurred because we attacked Iraq in 2003? Israel was unjustified in retaliating against Hezbollah, which is supported by (and a part of) the Lebanese government and its people? If we would just talk to these reasonable terrorists – such as Hezbollah and Mike Wallace's hero, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, we could achieve peace?

    In the interview, Carter pointedly blamed Bush's foreign policy on his Christian "fundamentalism." He nicely articulated the position of today's Democratic leaders, who, while scrambling for "values voters," consistently insult them, and while holding themselves out as superior guardians of our national security, see America, not the terrorists, as the problem.

    Carter, after unmistakably implying that Bush is a fundamentalist, said that fundamentalists believe "they are speaking for God" and "anyone who disagrees with them is inherently wrong" and "inherently inferior." "In extreme cases – as is the case with some fundamentalists around the world – it makes your opponents sub-humans, so that their lives are not significant." Since "the negotiating process itself is an indication of implied equality" the fundamentalist (read: President Bush) "can't bring himself or herself to negotiate with people who disagree with them."



    Carter also said that since the fundamentalists believe they are speaking for God, they think they are above making, much less admitting, mistakes. "So when we permit the torture of prisoners in Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib, it's just impossible for a fundamentalist [read: Bush – again] to admit that a mistake was made."

    Carter couldn't be more wrong. Bush, though not even close to a fundamentalist, is a Bible-believing Christian who by definition believes in the equal dignity of all people.

    But leave it to Carter to say Bush "permitted" torture, which is an outright lie. Leave it to him to believe the worst about "fundamentalist" Christians and the best about Islamo-fascist terrorists.

    Sadly, I believe Carter does speak for the Democratic leadership, and that speaks volumes about the Democrat leadership.

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    The peanut farmer had to be one of the worst presidents in history, Khomeni made a fool him during the hostage crisis in which carter demonstrated his expertise in indicisiveness by letting 100 americans remain hostage for 444 days
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    Carter is wrong. Bush endorsed torture and made it possible for it to happen.

    Are you scared of Carter?

    Tell me, does Thomas Jefferson give you nightmares as well?

    Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day.
    Thomas Jefferson

    The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.
    Thomas Jefferson

    The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.
    Thomas Jefferson

    No government ought to be without censors & where the press is free, no one ever will.
    Thomas Jefferson, letter to George Washington, September 9, 1792

    An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.
    Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Melish, January 13, 1813

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    Another neo-con propaganda piece written by Rush Limbaugh’s brother, the Clown Prince of the neo-con nitwits.

    David Limbaugh
    David is the younger brother of talk radio host Rush Limbaugh. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Limbaugh

    This piece is an abomination total BS!!!
    Let’s start here.

    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    But leave it to Carter to say Bush "permitted" torture, which is an outright lie. Leave it to him to believe the worst about "fundamentalist" Christians and the best about Islamo-fascist terrorists.
    The Bush administration has worked diligently to destroy the very definition of torture with the intention to use it and now has problems not only with the Geneva Convention’s ban on torturing prisoners but also with the '96 War Crimes Act.

    Detainee Abuse Charges Feared
    Shield Sought From '96 War Crimes Act

    By R. Jeffrey Smith
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, July 28, 2006; Page A01


    An obscure law approved by a Republican-controlled Congress a decade ago has made the Bush administration nervous that officials and troops involved in handling detainee matters might be accused of committing war crimes, and prosecuted at some point in U.S. courts.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072701908.html


    THE MEMO
    How an internal effort to ban the abuse and torture of detainees was thwarted.

    by JANE MAYER
    Issue of 2006-02-27
    Posted 2006-02-20
    ………
    Well before the exposure of prisoner abuse in Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison, in April, 2004, Mora warned his superiors at the Pentagon about the consequences of President Bush’s decision, in February, 2002, to circumvent the Geneva conventions, which prohibit both torture and “outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment.”
    [Alberto J. Mora, the outgoing general counsel of the United States Navy]
    http://www.newyorker.com/fact/conten.../060227fa_fact
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    Thomas Jefferson? Jimmy Carter?! Wha...?

    carters status as the most enemy-loving, terrorist-supporting, jew-hating, National Defense-gutting, Panama canal-giving, arafat-licking, communist regime-supporting, foreign election-stealing scumbag in world and American history is well secured.

    He also single-handedly created--and continues to set the standard--the all-important liberal self-congratulatory category ' People who SEEM to care about the welfare of others less fortunate, who APPEAR-at first glance- to be compassionate and selfless, until it becomes obvious that something is terribly wrong...'

    These less-than-human creatures crave recognition so desperately that they will risk ACTUALLY doing good in order to APPEAR to be doing good...this always hilarious tendency was most recently demonstrated by Sean Penn when he (and his cameramen) went down with the Good Ship Katrina ....!

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Sympathy for the Devil

    dont you lose interest after reading this line?????

    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone

    No matter how persistently Carter's Democrats attempt to rewrite history, President Bush attacked Iraq because he believed it was a threat to America's security – and it was, just as Iran is today.
    i dont attribute it to you , Pwrone (although you did post it), but i dont feel like messing around with the quotes and whatnot

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWorker
    dont you lose interest after reading this line?????



    i dont attribute it to you , Pwrone (although you did post it), but i dont feel like messing around with the quotes and whatnot

    But this is EXACTLY his point...that those who do not recognize the truth of those words, as they pertain to both of those countries, are simply living in a dream-world. To say that Iran, armed with nuclear weapons, is not a threat to the hated U.S. is simply ludicrous. Worse, it is dangerous. Iran does not have to drop a bomb inside our borders to be a huge threat to our interests. They do not have to drop on Israel to be a huge threat to our interests. It is in our interests for them to simply cease to be. Now, for the libs...why all this talk about OUR interests? Because who else matters? Really? Who else should matter? To us? This is where libs lose the 'hearts and minds' portion of the electorate, apparently an important ingredient for 'winning'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    But this is EXACTLY his point...that those who do not recognize the truth of those words, as they pertain to both of those countries, are simply living in a dream-world. To say that Iran, armed with nuclear weapons, is not a threat to the hated U.S. is simply ludicrous. Worse, it is dangerous. Iran does not have to drop a bomb inside our borders to be a huge threat to our interests. They do not have to drop on Israel to be a huge threat to our interests. It is in our interests for them to simply cease to be. Now, for the libs...why all this talk about OUR interests? Because who else matters? Really? Who else should matter? To us? This is where libs lose the 'hearts and minds' portion of the electorate, apparently an important ingredient for 'winning'...
    I'm sure that Iran feels the same way about the U.S. as you feel about them. It's obvious that you are for the genocide of the people there rather than diplomacy and getting along.

    And with an attitude like yours, why would you expect other countries to feel any differently about us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sojustask
    I'm sure that Iran feels the same way about the U.S. as you feel about them. It's obvious that you are for the genocide of the people there rather than diplomacy and getting along.

    And with an attitude like yours, why would you expect other countries to feel any differently about us?

    Lady Mod
    I agree absolutely...Why should ANY country place the interests of any other country above their own? EVER? We are criticized for not 'playing along' with ridiculous UN proposals that serve to damage only our own interests...for what?

    I am not for the annihilation of Iranians, I am for the annihilation of Iranian nuclear ability. Period. If that can be achieved without the loss of human life, that will be the best possible scenario. If, however, that CANNOT be achieved except by the very heavy loss of Iranian life, what do you choose? What is the 'money factor'? How do you do the math? This is why liberals are simply unfit to lead...Any decision that involves the certain loss of life of anyone, particularly civilians, should be AGONIZED over...then it must be MADE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    I agree absolutely...Why should ANY country place the interests of any other country above their own? EVER? We are criticized for not 'playing along' with ridiculous UN proposals that serve to damage only our own interests...for what?

    I am not for the annihilation of Iranians, I am for the annihilation of Iranian nuclear ability. Period. If that can be achieved without the loss of human life, that will be the best possible scenario. If, however, that CANNOT be achieved except by the very heavy loss of Iranian life, what do you choose? What is the 'money factor'? How do you do the math? This is why liberals are simply unfit to lead...Any decision that involves the certain loss of life of anyone, particularly civilians, should be AGONIZED over...then it must be MADE.
    SO!!you readily ADMIT to the world!!you DONT TRUST GOD!?which makes you an anti-theist and by "that standard" an ENEMY of HUMANITY!?(what's that!?)hehe!!!just askin.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    Thomas Jefferson? Jimmy Carter?! Wha...?

    carters status as the most enemy-loving, terrorist-supporting, jew-hating, National Defense-gutting, Panama canal-giving, arafat-licking, communist regime-supporting, foreign election-stealing scumbag in world and American history is well secured.

    He also single-handedly created--and continues to set the standard--the all-important liberal self-congratulatory category ' People who SEEM to care about the welfare of others less fortunate, who APPEAR-at first glance- to be compassionate and selfless, until it becomes obvious that something is terribly wrong...'

    These less-than-human creatures crave recognition so desperately that they will risk ACTUALLY doing good in order to APPEAR to be doing good...this always hilarious tendency was most recently demonstrated by Sean Penn when he (and his cameramen) went down with the Good Ship Katrina ....!

    when i finished reading this,i couldn't HELP myself but think......you are what you DEFINE!?hehe!!so of course,i concluded.....NOW!? we know WHO you are!?(sucks to be you thang!?)hehe!!just askin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by franKg
    The peanut farmer had to be one of the worst presidents in history, Khomeni made a fool him during the hostage crisis in which carter demonstrated his expertise in indicisiveness by letting 100 americans remain hostage for 444 days
    frank!!the GREAT author of the CHEAP SHOT!?hehe!!just askin....the oswald likeness is SCARY!!(AVATAR)hehe!!just askin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone
    But this is EXACTLY his point...that those who do not recognize the truth of those words, as they pertain to both of those countries, are simply living in a dream-world. To say that Iran, armed with nuclear weapons, is not a threat to the hated U.S. is simply ludicrous. Worse, it is dangerous. Iran does not have to drop a bomb inside our borders to be a huge threat to our interests. They do not have to drop on Israel to be a huge threat to our interests. It is in our interests for them to simply cease to be. Now, for the libs...why all this talk about OUR interests? Because who else matters? Really? Who else should matter? To us? This is where libs lose the 'hearts and minds' portion of the electorate, apparently an important ingredient for 'winning'...
    so at least you believe in a dream world!?and that we must surmise,is 1 of YOUR making!?cause any other dream world is UNACCEPTABLE!?but let's say ,fo instance,that all mean have the SAME dream world!?COULD THAT BE POSSIBLE!?obviously,YOU DONT THINK SO!?and of course,as WE all know,your RIGHT,and everyone ELSE is WRONG!?hehe!!just askin...LET GOD or be god.WHAT'S your TAKE on that 1!?hehe!!just askin......

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