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    Jesus came to abolish religion

    I guess getting you to vote republican, really wasn't Jesus Christs mission?
    because republican doesn't automatically mean Christian,

    If religion is so great, why has it started so many wars?
    why does it build huge churches, but fails to feed the poor?
    Tells single moms God doesn't love them if they've ever been divorced
    yet God in the Old Testament actually calls the religious people whores
    religion preaches grace, but another thing they practice,
    Tend to ridicule Gods people, they did it to John the Baptist,
    Cant fix their problems, so they try to mask it,
    not realizing that's just like sprayin perfume on a casket.
    Because the problem with religion is that it never gets to the core, It's just behavior modification, like a long list of chores.
    Let's dress up the outside, make things look nice and neat,
    Its funny that's what they do to mummies, while the corpse rots underneath,

    Not careful of putting on a fake look,
    Because there's a problem if people only know that you're a Christian by that little section on your facebook, IN holding a bible, or going to church

    In every other aspect of life you know that logics unworthy
    Its like saying you play for the lakers just because you bought a jersey
    But see I played this game too; no one seemed to be on to me, I was acting like church kid, while addicted to pornography.

    I'd go to church on Sunday, but on saturday getting faded,
    acting as if I was simply created to have sex and get wasted.
    Spend my whole life putting on this façade of neatness,
    but now that I know Jesus, I boast in my weakness.
    If grace is water, then the church should be an ocean,
    Because its not a museum for good people, it's a hospital for the broken

    I no longer have to hide my failures I don't have to hide my sin,because my salvation doesn't depend on me, it depends on him.

    because when I was Gods enemy and certainly not a fan,
    God looked down on me and said, "I want that man!"
    Which is so different from religious people, and why Jesus called em fools.

    Don't you see hes so much better than just following some rules?
    Now let me clarify, I love the holy Ghost, I love the bible, and I believe in sin
    But my question, is if Jesus were here today, would any church or bible believer let Him in?
    Remember He was called a drunkard and a glutton by "religious men"
    The Son of God not supported self-righteousness, not now, not then.

    one thing I know for sure is that Jesus and religion are both two different things. there on opposite spectrum's.

    one is a man made construction the other is god.
    one is an infection the other is the cure
    one leads to destruction the other to eternal life.
    one says DO the other Says Done
    one says slave the other says son
    One puts you in bondage the other set you free
    one makes you blind but the other makes you see.

    thats why religion and Jesus are two different clubs.

    Religion is man searching for God
    Christianity is God searching for man

    which is why salvation is freely mine and forgiveness is my own

    not based on my merits or works but by Jesus alone. Because he took a crown of thorns and took what we all deserved while the blood dripped down his face. Which is why we call it grace.

    He called "father forgive them they know not what they do" while being murdered. Because he was thinking of you.

    And he ex-orbed all your sin, and buried it in the tomb.

    An end to sin an end to religions, vain rituals and priest hoods. The heavens parted, the Vail was lifted.

    IT IS FINISHED

    "And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,"

    << Romans 4:5 >>




    God bless
    The internet is the last light of truth and hope...it is truly of the people, by the people and for the people. We must not let it be subverted for any purpose other than the truth. And that truth shall spread to every man woman and child across the globe. No longer will those in power carry the sole means to decide for us, yet we now shall have the power to decide to tune them out.

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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Paladine View Post
    I guess getting you to vote republican, really wasn't Jesus Christs mission?
    because republican doesn't automatically mean Christian,

    If religion is so great, why has it started so many wars?
    why does it build huge churches, but fails to feed the poor?
    Tells single moms God doesn't love them if they've ever been divorced
    yet God in the Old Testament actually calls the religious people whores
    religion preaches grace, but another thing they practice,
    Tend to ridicule Gods people, they did it to John the Baptist,
    Cant fix their problems, so they try to mask it,
    not realizing that's just like sprayin perfume on a casket.
    Because the problem with religion is that it never gets to the core, It's just behavior modification, like a long list of chores.
    Let's dress up the outside, make things look nice and neat,
    Its funny that's what they do to mummies, while the corpse rots underneath,

    Not careful of putting on a fake look,
    Because there's a problem if people only know that you're a Christian by that little section on your facebook, IN holding a bible, or going to church

    In every other aspect of life you know that logics unworthy
    Its like saying you play for the lakers just because you bought a jersey
    But see I played this game too; no one seemed to be on to me, I was acting like church kid, while addicted to pornography.

    I'd go to church on Sunday, but on saturday getting faded,
    acting as if I was simply created to have sex and get wasted.
    Spend my whole life putting on this façade of neatness,
    but now that I know Jesus, I boast in my weakness.
    If grace is water, then the church should be an ocean,
    Because its not a museum for good people, it's a hospital for the broken

    I no longer have to hide my failures I don't have to hide my sin,because my salvation doesn't depend on me, it depends on him.

    because when I was Gods enemy and certainly not a fan,
    God looked down on me and said, "I want that man!"
    Which is so different from religious people, and why Jesus called em fools.

    Don't you see hes so much better than just following some rules?
    Now let me clarify, I love the holy Ghost, I love the bible, and I believe in sin
    But my question, is if Jesus were here today, would any church or bible believer let Him in?
    Remember He was called a drunkard and a glutton by "religious men"
    The Son of God not supported self-righteousness, not now, not then.

    one thing I know for sure is that Jesus and religion are both two different things. there on opposite spectrum's.

    one is a man made construction the other is god.
    one is an infection the other is the cure
    one leads to destruction the other to eternal life.
    one says DO the other Says Done
    one says slave the other says son
    One puts you in bondage the other set you free
    one makes you blind but the other makes you see.

    thats why religion and Jesus are two different clubs.

    Religion is man searching for God
    Christianity is God searching for man

    which is why salvation is freely mine and forgiveness is my own

    not based on my merits or works but by Jesus alone. Because he took a crown of thorns and took what we all deserved while the blood dripped down his face. Which is why we call it grace.

    He called "father forgive them they know not what they do" while being murdered. Because he was thinking of you.

    And he ex-orbed all your sin, and buried it in the tomb.

    An end to sin an end to religions, vain rituals and priest hoods. The heavens parted, the Vail was lifted.

    IT IS FINISHED

    "And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,"

    << Romans 4:5 >>




    God bless
    I wish we could have a discussion about the truth of the NT gospels. The problem is Christians have never and will never question their truthfulness, it would destroy their faith. Christianity is based on the belief that Jesus was the son of God and he came into the world to be a sacrificial lamb for humankind. It is a loaded gun with a lot of ammunition. Without a guarantee of salvation, Christianity would not succeed. Believers want salvation; it is the key to strong Christian membership. Evidently, research is beyond Christian’s ability, or proclivity. So, the myth of Jesus, the son of God, continues along with the salvation message.

    It is amazing how much has been written about Christian salvation. We have numerous stories about heaven, miracles, saints, and, it goes on and on about the wonderfulness of Christianity. It is, in my opinion, based on solid research, a false set of ideas. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong. One problem with finding the truth about prior gospels is early church leaders destroyed as many of them they could find. It made the four gospels "sacred" sources. However, in the past few centuries scholars have uncovered many discrepancies, which leads to the conclusions which I have posted. Scholars have discovered evidence from recently discovered older gospels, mostly fragments, which throw doubt on the truthfulness of the four NT gospels.

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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    I wish we could have a discussion about the truth of the NT gospels. The problem is Christians have never and will never question their truthfulness, it would destroy their faith. Christianity is based on the belief that Jesus was the son of God and he came into the world to be a sacrificial lamb for humankind. It is a loaded gun with a lot of ammunition. Without a guarantee of salvation, Christianity would not succeed. Believers want salvation; it is the key to strong Christian membership. Evidently, research is beyond Christian’s ability, or proclivity. So, the myth of Jesus, the son of God, continues along with the salvation message.

    It is amazing how much has been written about Christian salvation. We have numerous stories about heaven, miracles, saints, and, it goes on and on about the wonderfulness of Christianity. It is, in my opinion, based on solid research, a false set of ideas. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong. One problem with finding the truth about prior gospels is early church leaders destroyed as many of them they could find. It made the four gospels "sacred" sources. However, in the past few centuries scholars have uncovered many discrepancies, which leads to the conclusions which I have posted. Scholars have discovered evidence from recently discovered older gospels, mostly fragments, which throw doubt on the truthfulness of the four NT gospels.
    Pile of Bot wank.
    Ignorance is simply the absence of knowledge. Stupidity is not wanting it.

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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    Beware of Chesty!!!! He wants you to die a miserable death, and he hopes it will happen soon. Chesty has become a Satanist! It’s rumored, he is a professional killer with Irish mob ties.
    Chesty needs to learn about God.
    Duality of God
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...Duality-of-God
    Dream about God, angels, Satan, etc.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...gels-Satan-etc
    An Unorthodox Theology based on Dreams and Visions.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...ms-and-Visions
    Chronological Stages of God’s Creation.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...217;s-Creation
    Twelve Angels in Heaven and in Revelation
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...-in-Revelation
    Obedience: God’s Prerequisite for Salvation.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...-for-Salvation
    The Problem of Paganism.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...em-of-Paganism
    Humans in the presence of God!
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...resence-of-God!
    Last edited by Cnance; 10-18-2018 at 02:44 PM.

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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    WOW cnance went and DUG up a 6yr old thread just to RANT his RANT!! very AMBITIOUS and POSSESSED person!!
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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    I have posted this thread because it is directly related to what I have posted about Jesus. Jesus was God, not the son of God. In a way, Jesus came to abolish religion in that he "gave testimony to his chosen people" in order to present the truth about Himself (God) and his commandments. Not pleased with what Jesus said and did, Christian leaders rewrote the story, including Jesus sayings.

    I have assembled my religious ideas into one reference page. These links to references on the forum are in reasonable order, but lack a full edit inasmuch as they have been posted over a period of years. Therefore, you will find some discrepancies. However, there is a central theme with regard to God, heaven, angels, paradise, God's chosen people, and the Bible for God's purpose. Because of continual attacks by Satanists on this forum to destroy my threads, I thought it appropriate to assemble them onto one thread. I have no intention of pursuing my ideas for profit or to begin another religion. It all began when a forum moderator asked me to post threads about my religious ideas. Since then, I have found it to be a hazardous activity. By posting many bogus threads, Satanists have disrupted my religious threads, so I have found a way to preserve them on the forum.


    Duality of God
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...Duality-of-God


    Dream about God, angels, Satan, etc.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...gels-Satan-etc


    An Unorthodox Theology based on Dreams and Visions.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...ms-and-Visions


    Chronological Stages of God’s Creation.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...217;s-Creation


    Twelve Angels in Heaven and in Revelation
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...-in-Revelation


    Obedience: God’s Prerequisite for Salvation.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...-for-Salvation


    The Problem of Paganism.
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...em-of-Paganism


    Humans in the presence of God!
    https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?...resence-of-God
    Last edited by Cnance; 10-18-2018 at 07:36 PM.

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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    like i SAID you dug it UP to RANT your RANT!! even though it's FILLED with HOLES!! you never DID explain how a god got KILLED!! did he get SCARED and decide to QUIT!? was he INCAPABLE of escaping any PLANS to do away with him!? did he just not CARE if he was killed!? did he give UP his power to become a man!? then WHO was running heaven while he was ABSENT!? i KNOW ask god!! so i guess that will ALWAYS be your COPOUT!!
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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    like i SAID you dug it UP to RANT your RANT!! even though it's FILLED with HOLES!! you never DID explain how a god got KILLED!! did he get SCARED and decide to QUIT!? was he INCAPABLE of escaping any PLANS to do away with him!? did he just not CARE if he was killed!? did he give UP his power to become a man!? then WHO was running heaven while he was ABSENT!? i KNOW ask god!! so i guess that will ALWAYS be your COPOUT!!
    This has happen before, you don't believe anything I have posted about God, Jesus, etc. Nevertheless, you ask questions. As for what happened with Jesus, it is on my dream thread. If you read, you will find it. I won't duplicate what I have already posted. Assuming you disbelief everything I have posted about my dreams, don't bother to ask. I don't like playing silly games.

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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    you MADE the WHOLE THING UP!! based on DREAMS!! kinda makes it FOOLISHNESS if ya ask me!! i ask questions and you DONT HAVE ANSWERS other than your MEMORIZED/PRACTICED theories!! your NOT here to DISCUSS ANYTHING your HERE to BECOME a JIM JONES!!
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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    you made the whole thing up!!
    that's what you do on the politics forum!
    Originally Posted by nomaxim
    Sorry there ''ohein56', but it appears that 'Joecool44' does not have the position that you envision on this topic.

    'Joecool44' has, as a matter of routine, refuted most of your accusations
    Quote Originally Posted by Jax74 View Post
    Some people have the ability to think critically, some do not. ohein obviously doesn't.

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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Joecool44 View Post
    that's what you do on the politics forum!
    try to stick to the topic DUFUS!!
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    Re: Jesus came to abolish religion

    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    you MADE the WHOLE THING UP!! based on DREAMS!! kinda makes it FOOLISHNESS if ya ask me!! i ask questions and you DONT HAVE ANSWERS other than your MEMORIZED/PRACTICED theories!! your NOT here to DISCUSS ANYTHING your HERE to BECOME a JIM JONES!!
    You only have one reply, it is not true because dreams are worthless. Why don't you address my arguments with an reply based on scripture. This is the religious forum! According to your replies, you have little or no Bible knowledge, just a lot of stupid comments. So, give me something to discuss!
    Last edited by Cnance; 11-03-2018 at 11:10 PM.

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