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    Dumb People Become "Conservatives"

    Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice


    http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conserv...180403506.html

    There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

    The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults.

    These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario.

    Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found.

    Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

    "Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted, making it critical that any factors contributing to bias are uncovered and understood," he said.

    Controversy ahead

    The findings combine three hot-button topics.

    "They've pulled off the trifecta of controversial topics," said Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia who was not involved in the study. "When one selects intelligence, political ideology and racism and looks at any of the relationships between those three variables, it's bound to upset somebody."

    Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience. [7 Thoughts That Are Bad For You]

    "The unique contribution here is trying to make some progress on the most challenging aspect of this," Nosek said, referring to the new study. "It's not that a relationship like that exists, but why it exists."

    Brains and bias

    Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice, Hodson said, so studying intelligence seemed a logical next step. The researchers turned to two studies of citizens in the United Kingdom, one that has followed babies since their births in March 1958, and another that did the same for babies born in April 1970. The children in the studies had their intelligence assessed at age 10 or 11; as adults ages 30 or 33, their levels of social conservatism and racism were measured. [Life's Extremes: Democrat vs. Republican]

    In the first study, verbal and nonverbal intelligence was measured using tests that asked people to find similarities and differences between words, shapes and symbols. The second study measured cognitive abilities in four ways, including number recall, shape-drawing tasks, defining words and identifying patterns and similarities among words. Average IQ is set at 100.

    Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as "Family life suffers if mum is working full-time," and "Schools should teach children to obey authority."

    Attitudes toward other races were captured by measuring agreement with statements such as "I wouldn't mind working with people from other races." (These questions measured overt prejudiced attitudes, but most people, no matter how egalitarian, do hold unconscious racial biases; Hodson's work can't speak to this "underground" racism.)

    As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias.

    People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races.

    "This finding is consistent with recent research demonstrating that intergroup contact is mentally challenging and cognitively draining, and consistent with findings that contact reduces prejudice," said Hodson, who along with his colleagues published these results online Jan. 5 in the journal Psychological Science.

    A study of averages


    Hodson was quick to note that the despite the link found between low intelligence and social conservatism, the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.

    "There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.

    Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.

    "We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."

    Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.

    "Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

    In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia.

    People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. As in the U.K. citizens, a lack of contact with gays and more acceptance of right-wing authoritarianism explained the link. [5 Myths About Gay People Debunked]

    Simple viewpoints


    Hodson and Busseri's explanation of their findings is reasonable, Nosek said, but it is correlational. That means the researchers didn't conclusively prove that the low intelligence caused the later prejudice. To do that, you'd have to somehow randomly assign otherwise identical people to be smart or dumb, liberal or conservative. Those sorts of studies obviously aren't possible.

    The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.

    "My speculation is that it's not as simple as their model presents it," Nosek said. "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

    Prejudice is of particular interest because understanding the roots of racism and bias could help eliminate them, Hodson said. For example, he said, many anti-prejudice programs encourage participants to see things from another group's point of view. That mental exercise may be too taxing for people of low IQ.

    "There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson said. "Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive. These two pieces of information suggest that it might be particularly fruitful for researchers to consider strategies to change feelings toward outgroups," rather than thoughts.

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    DUMBLES ( aka: Mumbles)

    Pro-Greedy Super Rich.. Check

    Pro-Wall Street Criminals & Corporations.. Check

    Pro-war and genocide.. Check (especially if it's for Israel)

    Pro-Zionist Apartheid.. Check

    Pro-Torture and War Crimes .. Check

    Pro-Govt. Control Of Womens' Bodies.. Check

    Pro-Death Penalty.. Check (especially for doctors who aren't "pro-life")

    Pro-Denial Of Health Care For Poor.. Check

    Pro-Trashing The Planet.. Check

    Pro-Racist Bigotry and Stereotyping .. Check

    Pro-Spying on Americans .. Check

    Pro-Trampling Human Rights.. Check (especially if you're Palestinian)

    Pro-Drug War.. Check

    Pro-Double Standard .. Check (one for yourself, another for everybody else)

    Pro-Religious Discrimination.. Check Check

    Pro-Liar and Fraud .. Check (especially if you're a small government "conservative" politician)

    Verdict: Un-American Fascist Dirt-bag, Hypocrite and Extra Brainwashed Right-Wing Dumbass.. Check

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    Quote Originally Posted by dchristie View Post
    DUMBLES ( aka: Mumbles)

    Pro-Greedy Super Rich.. Check

    Pro-Wall Street Criminals & Corporations.. Check

    Pro-war and genocide.. Check (especially if it's for Israel)

    Pro-Zionist Apartheid.. Check

    Pro-Torture and War Crimes .. Check

    Pro-Govt. Control Of Womens' Bodies.. Check

    Pro-Death Penalty.. Check (especially for doctors who aren't "pro-life")

    Pro-Denial Of Health Care For Poor.. Check

    Pro-Trashing The Planet.. Check

    Pro-Racist Bigotry and Stereotyping .. Check

    Pro-Spying on Americans .. Check

    Pro-Trampling Human Rights.. Check (especially if you're Palestinian)

    Pro-Drug War.. Check

    Pro-Double Standard .. Check (one for yourself, another for everybody else)

    Pro-Religious Discrimination.. Check Check

    Pro-Liar and Fraud .. Check (especially if you're a small government "conservative" politician)

    Verdict: Un-American Fascist Dirt-bag, Hypocrite and Extra Brainwashed Right-Wing Dumbass.. Check

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    You forgot that mumbles hates gay people, too.

    From the article:

    "In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia.

    People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbie Zirconia View Post
    You forgot that mumbles hates gay people, too.

    From the article:

    "In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia.

    People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays."


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    Yeah... That can probably be included under the Pro-Double Standard category.

    There's not enough time to itemize all the things on Dumble's hate list.

    To sum it up - It's whomever Dumbles and his crew of right-wing sickos can hurt through fear, torture, war, racism and homicide using "small government".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazza. View Post
    What can I say?




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    Yep.. Pretty hard to compete with that.

    Maybe if you had a motorcycle crash without a helmet.. perhaps?


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    LOL....classic



    pelosi, obama, biden, frank, wasserman-schultz, reid, edwards, blago, dodd, bloomberg....

    the brain trust



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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone View Post
    LOL....classic



    pelosi, obama, biden, frank, wasserman-schultz, reid, edwards, blago, dodd, bloomberg....

    the brain trust



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    Exactly. If these people are what are considered intelligent now, maybe it's better to be stupid.

    When is the last time anyone heard anything intelligent coming from the mouths of Pelosi, Biden, or Reid ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonaldusMagnus View Post
    Exactly. If these people are what are considered intelligent now, maybe it's better to be stupid.

    When is the last time anyone heard anything intelligent coming from the mouths of Pelosi, Biden, or Reid ?
    Yeah.. It's better that you're stupid.

    I knew we could find some common ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrone View Post
    LOL....classic



    pelosi, obama, biden, frank, wasserman-schultz, reid, edwards, blago, dodd, bloomberg....

    the brain trust



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    Hahaha.. Constitutional Law professors, Senators, Congress people and a billionaire can hardly compete with the historic and vaunted Scam.com Troll Legacy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonaldusMagnus View Post
    Exactly. If these people are what are considered intelligent now, maybe it's better to be stupid.

    When is the last time anyone heard anything intelligent coming from the mouths of Pelosi, Biden, or Reid ?
    Bah, leave the libs alone, they at least think themselves smart, let them have that one illusion...

    I mean DC and Gazza in the same thread = Comedy gold!!! Dont ruin it!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleP View Post
    Bah, leave the libs alone, they at least think themselves smart, let them have that one illusion...

    I mean DC and Gazza in the same thread = Comedy gold!!! Dont ruin it!!!!

    :sun_smiley:
    What i'm actually surprised about is that no one actually confired what the study actually says.

    Long story short it says that people who have trouble dealing with complex issues are more likely to like the conservative message.

    Anyone else would point out that this does not make liberals any smarter or that it makes conservatives stupid.


    It means the conservative message is easier to understand. Something I think many here would agree with.


    Sadly instead of pointing out reality they'd rather continue with partisian politics.

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    Note that the article says (as is obvious to anyone with a reasoning brain) that prejudice induces stupidity. Now it's true many Conservatives hold prejudice, but so do many liberals -- just aimed at different targets (which in the liberal case, happens to be often Conservatives).

    To see you lot bickering makes me wonder if any of you are really that stupid.

    The party affiliation is artificial, and so is the stupidity.
    Diminish the prejudice, and intellect starts to flourish.
    Diminish the party distinction, and a rapport starts to flourish.

    Get the comparison...?

    Don't believe me...? Take a trip to the Stormfront forums* (racial purity forums) and that f.ucked up congregation of degenerates will make scam.com seem like a bastion of civil discourse.




    *I encourage you to look for supremacy sites from all other races too, you'll be disgusted (hopefully...if not, I pity you). Black Supremacy sites were, surprisingly, hard to find but look longer into google...you can also find some Asian ones, some Native American ones, etc.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spector567 View Post
    What i'm actually surprised about is that no one actually confired what the study actually says.

    Long story short it says that people who have trouble dealing with complex issues are more likely to like the conservative message.

    Anyone else would point out that this does not make liberals any smarter or that it makes conservatives stupid.


    It means the conservative message is easier to understand. Something I think many here would agree with.


    Sadly instead of pointing out reality they'd rather continue with partisian politics.
    Thank you, I knew someone would eventually say it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleP View Post

    Bah, leave the libs alone, they at least think themselves smart, let them have that one illusion...


    :sun_smiley:
    But then, we have this pesky study . . .

    "People who consider themselves liberals or atheists tend to have higher IQs than those who are more religious or conservative, a new study suggests."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbie Zirconia View Post
    But then, we have this pesky study . . .

    "People who consider themselves liberals or atheists tend to have higher IQs than those who are more religious or conservative, a new study suggests."

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    They think it's mostly because people who hold right wing ideologies are more resistant to change and find it difficult to take paths that stray from the status quo.

    Life is uncertain as it is and they fight to keep it as predictable as they can so they feel comfortable dealing with it.

    I don't know that it's an IQ thing as much as it is an afraid of change thing.

    Progressives tend to keep shaking things up to find solutions to old problems and that strikes fear in the hearts of those who prefer things to stay the same.
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